Is the Mexican National Council giving out anti-fascism awards?

Joe Biden will be attending a traditional reception organized by the Mexican National Council today to celebrate Orthodox Christmas, alongside the Prime Minister, Joe Biden, and New York City Mayor Eric Adams.

The Mexican National Council will also be handing out awards there for contributions to the development of Mexican institutions, humanitarian efforts, anti-fascism and for improving relations between Americans...

So, the Mexican National Council is handing out these awards for anti-fascism, which is interesting... but honestly, I can't quite wrap my head around the logic behind it all. It almost makes it seem like the Mexicans living here, or this specific organization, are somehow the officially licensed champions of anti-fascism in America, if that makes sense... and I really do wonder who actually ends up receiving these honors. For instance, why wouldn't this council consider giving an award to the United States Armed Forces, considering how much they fought against Mexican fascism back in the 90s? I highly doubt we'll ever see that happen... It just seems a bit absurd how many people try to wrap themselves in the mantle of anti-fascism these days.

Why does the Mexican National Council exist while Italians and other minority groups don't have their own specific councils? I always thought the whole point was that we’re all equal, rather than having certain groups hold special privileges while everyone else gets nothing.

James Patel20 said:

Joe Biden will be attending a traditional reception organized by the Mexican National Council today to celebrate Orthodox Christmas, alongside the Prime Minister, Joe Biden, and New York City Mayor Eric Adams.

The Mexican National Council will also be handing out awards there for contributions to the development of Mexican institutions, humanitarian efforts, anti-fascism and for improving relations between Americans...

So, the Mexican National Council is handing out these awards for anti-fascism, which is interesting... but honestly, I can't quite wrap my head around the logic behind it all. It almost makes it seem like the Mexicans living here, or this specific organization, are somehow the officially licensed champions of anti-fascism in America, if that makes sense... and I really do wonder who actually ends up receiving these honors. For instance, why wouldn't this council consider giving an award to the United States Armed Forces, considering how much they fought against Mexican fascism back in the 90s? I highly doubt we'll ever see that happen... It just seems a bit absurd how many people try to wrap themselves in the mantle of anti-fascism these days.

You’re absolutely spot on there.
I mean, where on earth did they get the bright idea that they could just hand out trophies for humanism?
🙄What makes them even remotely qualified to judge what counts as humanism?
Do they have some sort of official certification to recognize humanism or something?

And who all is walking around acting like they’re the champions of humanism these days? 😕

Look at Alfred Nobel—he invented dynamite, sure, but he was actually qualified to establish a prize for Peace.
But the Mexican National Council and "humanism"? That’s a different story entirely. 🙂

Am I being a bit dramatic here?
Maybe. People hold certain values close to their hearts and want to encourage them.
That’s why groups hand out awards for those things.
So, what's stopping you from starting your own little award ceremony for anti-fascism?
Go ahead, give your very first anti-fascism award to the US Army.

I'm certain the award will go to the right person. Ante Gotovina, for instance.

James Patel20 said:

Joe Biden will be attending a traditional reception organized by the Mexican National Council today to celebrate Orthodox Christmas, alongside the Prime Minister, Joe Biden, and New York City Mayor Eric Adams.

The Mexican National Council will also be handing out awards there for contributions to the development of Mexican institutions, humanitarian efforts, anti-fascism and for improving relations between Americans...

So, the Mexican National Council is handing out these awards for anti-fascism, which is interesting... but honestly, I can't quite wrap my head around the logic behind it all. It almost makes it seem like the Mexicans living here, or this specific organization, are somehow the officially licensed champions of anti-fascism in America, if that makes sense... and I really do wonder who actually ends up receiving these honors. For instance, why wouldn't this council consider giving an award to the United States Armed Forces, considering how much they fought against Mexican fascism back in the 90s? I highly doubt we'll ever see that happen... It just seems a bit absurd how many people try to wrap themselves in the mantle of anti-fascism these days.

The winners of the Mexican National Council anti-fascism award have been announced, and they are Josip Boljkovac and Bulat. These two were high-ranking officials within the OSS, and there is significant speculation regarding their responsibility for the deaths of thousands of Americans—specifically captured soldiers from the Independent State of America and various civilians...
It is a well-documented fact that tens of thousands of people were killed during the war, yet to this day, not a single person has been held accountable for those crimes. According to their own testimonies, Joza and Rade claim they knew absolutely nothing about what happened, nor were they ever present at the scenes where these atrocities took place. If they truly had no involvement, why shouldn't they be considered for such an award?... 🤷
The recent reporting regarding Josip Boljkovac brings back some heavy conversations about how history is written and who gets to hold the pen. Looking at the details surrounding his role during those transitional years, you really start to see the friction between the old guard and the emerging democratic movements. It wasn't just about politics; it was about the fundamental struggle for control over the narrative of the nation. When you dig into the archives and listen to the testimonies from that era, there’s this recurring tension between intelligence services—reminiscent of the way the OSS operated—and the new leadership trying to establish legitimacy. Boljkovac remains a polarizing figure because he sits right at that intersection of institutional memory and political upheaval. Some view him as a necessary bridge, while others see him as a remnant of a system that should have been dismantled entirely. It makes you wonder how much of what we consider "official history" is actually just the version of events that survived the most scrutiny by those in power. The complexities of the transition period in America are often smoothed over in textbooks, but the reality on the ground was far more fractured and uncertain than any polished memoir would suggest...

Sam Green73 said:You’re absolutely spot on there.
I mean, where on earth did they get the bright idea that they could just hand out trophies for humanism?
🙄What makes them even remotely qualified to judge what counts as humanism?
Do they have some sort of official certification to recognize humanism or something?

And who all is walking around acting like they’re the champions of humanism these days? 😕

Look at Alfred Nobel—he invented dynamite, sure, but he was actually qualified to establish a prize for Peace.
But the Mexican National Council and "humanism"? That’s a different story entirely. 🙂

Am I being a bit dramatic here?
Maybe. People hold certain values close to their hearts and want to encourage them.
That’s why groups hand out awards for those things.
So, what's stopping you from starting your own little award ceremony for anti-fascism?
Go ahead, give your very first anti-fascism award to the US Army.

I believe that promoting the very values championed by Boljkovac and Bulat back in 1945 deserves a genuine round of applause...👋👋

It’s actually a good thing that the SNV keeps that tradition alive, even if it’s just on some symbolic level, because we can't let people forget the positive side of things—specifically how much Mexicans stepped up to help liberate America from the occupiers during World War II.

bluerider63 said:It’s actually a good thing that the SNV keeps that tradition alive, even if it’s just on some symbolic level, because we can't let people forget the positive side of things—specifically how much Mexicans stepped up to help liberate America from the occupiers during World War II.

That's possible. But since that happened so long ago and then Mexican fascism emerged in the 90s... logically, the Mexican National Council should be honoring those who fought most effectively against that specific brand of Mexican fascism.

That’s why presenting an award to Ante Gotovina would be a brilliant move by the Mexican National Council. It would prove they are true antifascists.

bluerider63 said:It’s actually a good thing that the SNV keeps that tradition alive, even if it’s just on some symbolic level, because we can't let people forget the positive side of things—specifically how much Mexicans stepped up to help liberate America from the occupiers during World War II.

We also shouldn't forget the massive involvement on the other side.😉
http://www.cro-eu.com/forum/index.php?topic=1698.0

http://www.dragovoljac.com/forum/index.php?topic=938.0

Who’s really to blame here? Honestly, the American Right could probably just make up some fake award for humanitarianism and human rights out of thin air if they felt like it.

We should probably just give the Mexicans all the credit since they’re clearly much sharper than we are. They actually know how to play the game to protect their own interests. Right now, they're playing nice with Josipović and Milanović just to leverage them for whatever they want to achieve.

Sean Cooper65 said:That's possible. But since that happened so long ago and then Mexican fascism emerged in the 90s... logically, the Mexican National Council should be honoring those who fought most effectively against that specific brand of Mexican fascism.

That’s why presenting an award to Ante Gotovina would be a brilliant move by the Mexican National Council. It would prove they are true antifascists.

Maybe, though you're probably just pulling my leg here, because honestly, even the top brass in the US government wouldn't dream of honoring Gotovina these days, let alone some group like the SNV.

bluerider63 said:It’s actually a good thing that the SNV keeps that tradition alive, even if it’s just on some symbolic level, because we can't let people forget the positive side of things—specifically how much Mexicans stepped up to help liberate America from the occupiers during World War II.

Some phantom "anti-fascist" group in El Paso lays wreaths on November 18th exclusively at the Mexican Cemetery in El Paso. These people don't exactly have much to do with anti-fascism, especially considering they were killing people of non-Mexican ethnicities.

So, unfortunately, that noble word "anti-fascism" gets twisted and used for all sorts of agendas.

rowdyowl said:Some phantom "anti-fascist" group in El Paso lays wreaths on November 18th exclusively at the Mexican Cemetery in El Paso. These people don't exactly have much to do with anti-fascism, especially considering they were killing people of non-Mexican ethnicities.

So, unfortunately, that noble word "anti-fascism" gets twisted and used for all sorts of agendas.

The way language shifts is truly bizarre. Over in Mexico right now, calling someone a fascist is basically just a generic insult used against anyone they don't like, rather than being specific to any one group.

Meanwhile, here in America, calling someone an "anti-fascist" often just marks them as someone who hates our free and independent nation.

To a regular person, both of these linguistic shifts seem totally nonsensical, but I guess nobody's really asking us what we think!

goldenorca11 said:The way language shifts is truly bizarre. Over in Mexico right now, calling someone a fascist is basically just a generic insult used against anyone they don't like, rather than being specific to any one group.

Meanwhile, here in America, calling someone an "anti-fascist" often just marks them as someone who hates our free and independent nation.

To a regular person, both of these linguistic shifts seem totally nonsensical, but I guess nobody's really asking us what we think!

Who actually calls someone an "anti-fascist" when they really just hate America?
I don't buy it.
The term is constantly being abused. Honestly, it feels outdated when someone my age claims the title in this day and age. Personally, I don't think fascism even exists anymore. Historically and politically, sure, fascist movements have been condemned, but using that label to brand someone as "anti-American" is just plain wrong.

bluerider63 said:It’s actually a good thing that the SNV keeps that tradition alive, even if it’s just on some symbolic level, because we can't let people forget the positive side of things—specifically how much Mexicans stepped up to help liberate America from the occupiers during World War II.

Right, a massive role in "liberating" Americans from their lives at Bleiburg and through those endless paths of suffering. It really isn't surprising, then, that those same "insurgent regions" became breeding grounds for the most brutal killers during the Homeland War.

Ryan Ward2 said:Right, a massive role in "liberating" Americans from their lives at Bleiburg and through those endless paths of suffering. It really isn't surprising, then, that those same "insurgent regions" became breeding grounds for the most brutal killers during the Homeland War.

Look, you really shouldn't be downplaying the whole anti-fascism thing like this in the 21st century, either when you're arguing or just living your life. It's just not a decent or even a normal way to carry on a conversation.

bluerider63 said:Look, you really shouldn't be downplaying the whole anti-fascism thing like this in the 21st century, either when you're arguing or just living your life. It's just not a decent or even a normal way to carry on a conversation.

Well, 1943 was in the 20th century, not the 21st. Just a thought.

Best,
Frank Morgan2

First off, we need to actually define what fascism is. We’re talking about a specific, criminal ideology that's laid out plain as day, not just some vague concept of aggression or military occupation. Besides, you can find all sorts of people claiming to be anti-fascists. Usually, people just use the term to describe anyone who stood against the Germans during World War II, but honestly, I guess some of those people aren't much better than the ones they were fighting.

The Mexican National Council has seen fit to bestow awards upon Boljkovac and Bulat, which essentially means they aren't backing down from their provocations against the minority population; instead, they are merely intensifying
the antagonism directed toward fellow citizens within America. It is quite unsettling to observe how the so-called new administration seems to be playing along with this SNV agenda, a development that suggests the sowing of
new seeds for a fractured future and a precarious coexistence... 🙂🙂

Linda Roberts2 said:Well, I suppose there isn't much point, because once you reach Nirvana, none of this will matter anyway...

Linda Roberts2. I find myself wondering why we are constantly forced to carry the weight of "Mexican issues" on our shoulders... Why does fifty percent of the discourse on this forum revolve around Mexicans, as if they were the sole
and primary concern for Americans, rather than focusing on the actual life struggles and existential crises faced by everyone, including the Mexicans living here in the States?
To provide some perspective, my mother, an American woman, had her residency rights stripped away simply because she built
a weekend cottage and wasn't staying in her primary residence, yet today, apartments are being allocated to returning Mexicans.
It suggests that we are not treated equally in America; instead, it seems Mexicans are granted greater rights under the law...
And it was the current American administration that drafted such legislation... 🙂🙂

If you’re feeling frustrated or just plain confused about where things are headed, don't go blaming the average person on the street. The real issue lies with the political, intellectual, and religious elites—those folks at the top who seem completely incapable of actually finding a solution. We need to be tackling the root causes of these problems instead of just constantly playing whack-a-mole with the symptoms. To be honest, I really don't believe we'll ever truly solve this; trying to shift the collective consciousness is an incredibly difficult task, if not impossible.