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IRS and Tax Filing Issues

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Raymond Martinez10 Raymond Martinez10 Active Member
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#241 ·
ruggedcyclist74 said:Where on earth are you seeing that? As far as I recall, that was nothing more than a mere suggestion at this stage.

Federal Register 136, amendments to the General Tax Code (Section 4).
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
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#242 ·
Raymond Martinez10 said:Federal Register 136, amendments to the General Tax Code (Section 4).

Thanks, 🙂
Henry Chavez5 Henry Chavez5 Member
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#243 ·
Raymond Martinez10 said:Federal Register 136, amendments to the General Tax Code (Section 4).

Look at Section 63, Paragraph 6!!!
Raymond Martinez10 Raymond Martinez10 Active Member
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#244 ·
Henry Chavez5 said:Look at Section 63, Paragraph 6!!!

That specific article was updated—but I was pointing out which section of the amendment act it falls under... you can see that change clearly in the Federal Register, issue 136.😉
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
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#245 ·
Raymond Martinez10 said:That specific article was updated—but I was pointing out which section of the amendment act it falls under... you can see that change clearly in the Federal Register, issue 136.😉

...pointing it out... 😁

As far as the specific article is concerned, yes, I had to dig through a fair amount of paperwork before I finally tracked it down, but the important thing is that I didn't miss the provision entirely. 🙂
Kimberly Harris6 Kimberly Harris6 Active Member
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#246 ·
Carl Turner2 said:I’ve been hitting a bit of a wall lately with the IRS website, specifically when I try to sign my digital forms. It’s one of those maddening technical glitches where everything looks perfectly fine on the surface—all my digital certificates are installed, they show up clearly in the system, and everything seems to be in order. But the moment I actually attempt to sign and submit a document, I get slapped with that cryptic error message: "THE KEYSET IS NOT DEFINED." This has been happening consistently since I made the switch to Windows 8. I’ve tried reaching out to tech support at both my bank and even the help desks over at the IRS, but honestly, it feels like I'm just talking to a brick wall; nobody seems to have a clue how to resolve this specific headache.

From what I understand about using all these "e-government" apps, you aren't actually supposed to be using the latest versions of Windows, Internet Explorer, Adobe, and so on. I've been told that several times by people at the bank, so I play it safe and stick to older versions. It’s a bit nerdy, sure, but it keeps me from having any issues.
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
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Kimberly Harris6 said:From what I understand about using all these "e-government" apps, you aren't actually supposed to be using the latest versions of Windows, Internet Explorer, Adobe, and so on. I've been told that several times by people at the bank, so I play it safe and stick to older versions. It’s a bit nerdy, sure, but it keeps me from having any issues.

Oh sure, why stop there? We might as well all revert to Windows 98 since our software is apparently prehistoric... 🙂

I was looking through some statements from Goldman Sachs recently—they print them out in DOS format, as if we're still living in the Stone Age... they're completely illegible, lacking any perforation space, so every time I try to punch holes in a printout, I usually end up punching through a critical digit or a previous balance.🙂

The sheer authoritarianism of it all is infuriating; it’s so easy for them to just force their will upon us regarding what WE have to do... yet no one bothers to ask if small business owners actually have the capital to upgrade their tech, set up high-speed internet, and so on... then they go ahead and mandate these archaic programs that are nearly impossible to even source anymore... it's just exhausting.🙂

Vitas, I truly value your insights and the depth of knowledge you bring to the table; I am certain that you find this whole situation just as aggravating as I do, even if you don't feel the need to say so.😉🙂
northernseal12 northernseal12 Newcomer
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#248 ·
Anyone know if I'm going to get hit with a fine if I turn in my sales tax forms on paper for the eleventh month in a row?
As soon as I read that the IRS is making electronic filing mandatory, I bolted straight to Chase to apply for a digital signature card—only to have the teller tell me everyone is out on vacation and she has no clue when mine will actually arrive. Great. And since I’m heading out on vacation this Monday, I really need to get these filed before the week is up.
Raymond Martinez10 Raymond Martinez10 Active Member
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#249 ·
ruggedcyclist74 said:...pointing it out... 😁

As far as the specific article is concerned, yes, I had to dig through a fair amount of paperwork before I finally tracked it down, but the important thing is that I didn't miss the provision entirely. 🙂

It wasn't malicious—honestly, sorry Lady.
Kimberly Harris6 Kimberly Harris6 Active Member
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#250 ·
ruggedcyclist74 said:Oh sure, why stop there? We might as well all revert to Windows 98 since our software is apparently prehistoric... 🙂

I was looking through some statements from Goldman Sachs recently—they print them out in DOS format, as if we're still living in the Stone Age... they're completely illegible, lacking any perforation space, so every time I try to punch holes in a printout, I usually end up punching through a critical digit or a previous balance.🙂

The sheer authoritarianism of it all is infuriating; it’s so easy for them to just force their will upon us regarding what WE have to do... yet no one bothers to ask if small business owners actually have the capital to upgrade their tech, set up high-speed internet, and so on... then they go ahead and mandate these archaic programs that are nearly impossible to even source anymore... it's just exhausting.🙂

Vitas, I truly value your insights and the depth of knowledge you bring to the table; I am certain that you find this whole situation just as aggravating as I do, even if you don't feel the need to say so.😉🙂

To be honest, I don't spend much time worrying about this stuff. I’ve never been one to jump on every new app that hits the market, and frankly, I had to be practically talked into using Wind 7. 🙂 Look, I definitely agree that you need to stay on top of tech trends, but there’s absolutely no reason to go rushing blindly into every new thing. These systems are massive, and honestly, they need time to stabilize before everyone starts pivoting. I'm not talking about DOS—that's ancient history at this point. I mean things like the software updates from FIN. Usually, when they roll out new applications, the recommendation is to stick with certain legacy tools for a while just to give the new infrastructure some breathing room to settle. It’s common sense, isn't it? In my case, I haven't had any issues at all. I actually had someone from the FIN office come over personally with a disc and get everything configured exactly how I need it. So, for now, everything is running smoothly.
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
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#251 ·
Kimberly Harris6 said:To be honest, I don't spend much time worrying about this stuff. I’ve never been one to jump on every new app that hits the market, and frankly, I had to be practically talked into using Wind 7. 🙂 Look, I definitely agree that you need to stay on top of tech trends, but there’s absolutely no reason to go rushing blindly into every new thing. These systems are massive, and honestly, they need time to stabilize before everyone starts pivoting. I'm not talking about DOS—that's ancient history at this point. I mean things like the software updates from FIN. Usually, when they roll out new applications, the recommendation is to stick with certain legacy tools for a while just to give the new infrastructure some breathing room to settle. It’s common sense, isn't it? In my case, I haven't had any issues at all. I actually had someone from the FIN office come over personally with a disc and get everything configured exactly how I need it. So, for now, everything is running smoothly.

I find myself agreeing with every word you wrote, though I can't help but feel a certain irritation at their sheer arrogance...
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
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#252 ·
Raymond Martinez10 said:It wasn't malicious—honestly, sorry Lady.

I didn't even think it was 😉 🙂
Charles Turner13 Charles Turner13 Member
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#253 ·
I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. I’m still getting my bearings with the federal electronic filing system, and I have a quick question regarding the process. To submit forms to the IRS, should I be applying for a digital certificate under my own business name through a provider like DigiCert, or is it up to each of my individual clients to secure their own certificates? If it's the latter, how am I supposed to handle sending over their sales tax filings?😛😛
Jack Young Jack Young Active Member
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#254 ·
Charles Turner13 said:I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction. I’m still getting my bearings with the federal electronic filing system, and I have a quick question regarding the process. To submit forms to the IRS, should I be applying for a digital certificate under my own business name through a provider like DigiCert, or is it up to each of my individual clients to secure their own certificates? If it's the latter, how am I supposed to handle sending over their sales tax filings?😛😛


Yeah, just go ahead and grab a certificate for your business. Once you have that, your clients can just give you a Power of Attorney so you're cleared to file those forms with the IRS on their behalf.
Charles Turner13 Charles Turner13 Member
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#255 ·
Jack Young said:Yeah, just go ahead and grab a certificate for your business. Once you have that, your clients can just give you a Power of Attorney so you're cleared to file those forms with the IRS on their behalf.

Thanks for the input, Jack Young.
I actually called up Fidelity yesterday, and the representative suggested that since I only have three clients registered for sales tax, it might not be worth getting a business certificate under my own LLC (since I'm not registered for sales tax myself). She suggested they should just handle their own filings individually, and then they could simply hand me their hardware tokens so I can submit the paperwork to the IRS for them.
Raymond Martinez10 Raymond Martinez10 Active Member
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#256 ·
If you bundle them under your own name, you're looking at $22 a month. But if they decide to go solo and pay individually, it jumps to $17 per person—that's $50 monthly.
So, do the math and see what makes sense 🙄
Jack Young Jack Young Active Member
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#257 ·
Raymond Martinez10 said:If you bundle them under your own name, you're looking at $22 a month. But if they decide to go solo and pay individually, it jumps to $17 per person—that's $50 monthly.
So, do the math and see what makes sense 🙄

and there's a fee for every extra $4.25, right?
Raymond Martinez10 Raymond Martinez10 Active Member
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#258 ·
There’s no extra fee for the e-filing system 🙄
Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 Regular
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#259 ·
What do you mean "there isn't any"? For every single authorization, they hit you with $3.25 plus sales tax 🤷
Raymond Martinez10 Raymond Martinez10 Active Member
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#260 ·
Henry Edwards33 said:What do you mean "there isn't any"? For every single authorization, they hit you with $3.25 plus sales tax 🤷

The IRS doesn't charge a fee to use their online portal

If we're talking about filing forms directly with the FBI, one certificate is all you need—everyone else just needs a power of attorney.

The extra cost per client only kicks in if you end up using Treasury Department services.

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