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Animal cruelty nightmare: "They're spitting on my wife, my kids are scared to go to school, and now

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Participants Frank Moore4silvertiger11Kevin Gonzalez79Andrew Mendoza10brightpumamistyjackal14Nicole JamesHarold Bishop2Anthony Garcia19bluecobra27Jerry Wood5wearyowl29Jack Rodriguez7Gregory Anderson5Harold RichardsonMegan Hernandez2Bradley Nelson2Susan Price30Dennis Bailey2vividridge9Daniel Bailey39Michael Collins76placidrangerPaul Thomas46 …
Jerry Wood5 Jerry Wood5 Member
44 messages
joined Mar 2013
#21 ·
I really don't see how anyone can look at the current state of things and stay silent—it’s just getting harder by the day to ignore the sheer absurdity of the situation we're facing. It feels like we're constantly being pushed toward these inevitable conclusions, yet everyone acts like it's business as usual. I mean, honestly, when you sit back and actually look at the trajectory of these policies, it's almost comical if it weren't so frustratingly predictable. You see it everywhere, from the local level all the way up to Washington, D.C., where the decisions made seem completely disconnected from what's actually happening on the ground in places like Chicago or Houston. It's that same old pattern—constant movement without any actual progress, just spinning our wheels while the people in charge pretend they've got everything under control. It’s exhausting, truly. You try to make sense of it, to find some logic in the chaos, but it’s like trying to solve a puzzle where someone keeps changing the shapes of the pieces halfway through. And don't even get me started on the "solutions" being proposed lately; most of them feel like they were dreamt up by someone who hasn't stepped foot outside of a high-rise office in Manhattan in twenty years. We need real substance, not these polished, empty gestures that do nothing to address the underlying rot. kaže:
Honestly, it scares me—it really does—when I see people trying to balance a dog against a child like they’re two items on a grocery list. You can't just put an equals sign between them when we're talking about the value of a life. It’s not just about kids—it's about people in general.


Honestly, people are just worse than animals. Animals kill to survive, but humans? We kill just because we can—for the sheer thrill of it. And don't even get me started on the hypocrisy and the pure, unadulterated malice that seems to drive so much of what we do. It’s exhausting. We’re systematically wrecking the environment and destroying the very world we have to live in. It's tragic, really.
Honestly, I find myself having way more empathy for animals than for most people I actually know.
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active Member
116 messages
joined Aug 2012
#22 ·
bluecobra27 said:It's because kids cry easily; to them, a broken toy is basically the end of the world. This whole thing is a sad little story, sure, but ultimately irrelevant. Personally, I don't even see why I should care about it, other than the fallout that happened after that guy showed up with dead puppies.

Like I said before, if it were ever proven that he killed those puppies on purpose, then yeah, he deserves a massive punishment. But based on everything here, this looks like a straight-up accident. He obviously messed up by carrying those pups in a closed bag, but staging some kind of public witch hunt against him is just insane—and it's all because of dead dogs. Then someone has the nerve to try and draw comparisons, asking if he’d carry his own kids in a closed bag. Give me a break. Things happen. When idiots leave their kids in a hot car in the middle of a Texas summer and face the consequences (hopefully), I don't recall people starting a mob over it. Look, if it were a dead child, I'd understand the outrage and the lynching mentality. But not this.

To be honest, the kind of people who put a dog and a child on the same level when talking about the value of life actually scare me. And I'm not just talking about kids—I mean people in general.

Why is it so easy for them to cry? Because they’re still sensitive. Most of us adults have just grown hard, and honestly, our sense of what actually matters gets pretty warped over time.

To a kid, those toys are real. They represent their whole world, and since their imagination is limitless, losing a toy feels like losing a piece of reality itself.

I'm genuinely scared of people who try to weigh a dog against a child when it comes to the value of life. It's not just about kids—it's about people in general.

Don't be scared. If you truly love animals, you love life in all its different forms, and that includes humans too. 🙂
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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joined Feb 2014
#23 ·
Frank Moore4 said:This is just another textbook example of how inhumane these self-proclaimed animal rights activists can be. Honestly, half of them probably haven't even walked a dog on a leash, let alone handled actual farm work or livestock. They claim they’re "protecting" animals, but they’d happily step over a human being to do it.

Unfortunately, this is just more evidence of how twisted these Western "liberal values" have become. It’s honestly shameful that our local police aren't stepping in to deal with people like this and filing formal criminal charges for their threats and harassment. At this point, we probably need the courts—and maybe a psychiatric evaluation—to get a handle on them.

The real problem isn't "liberal values"—it's just the way we think. If you're transporting an animal, you better keep a close eye on them! They aren't luggage, after all. The driver is ultimately responsible for whatever they're hauling. Honestly, they should be slapped with a massive fine for this... it's like if a cattle hauler left the truck doors wide open and lost his entire load on a sharp turn.

As for everyone else making threats? They really need to mind their own business. The law exists to protect animals from being abused or killed, period. In this country, the law doesn't seem to protect anyone but itself. That said, I am glad people are finally becoming more sensitive to animal cruelty—it was about time—but some folks are definitely overreacting. You know, as an educational lesson, they should make someone drive a cattle truck from San Francisco to Des Moines without any water just to see how it feels.

It has nothing to do with liberal ideology. It's just our mindset. We tend to take everything to the extreme, getting super emotional and losing all self-control.
Jack Rodriguez7 Jack Rodriguez7 Newcomer
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#24 ·
A while back, I had this wonderful three-year-old dog who, for reasons I still can't quite wrap my head around, started acting aggressive toward small children. Even though we all absolutely adored him, I wasn't about to gamble with safety—especially since he’s a breed capable of doing some real damage. It was a heavy decision, truly, but I placed a few ads offering him for rehoming, being completely upfront about the behavioral issues. Only two "gentlemen" reached out, and I turned them down immediately; they clearly didn't know the first thing about dogs, and their intentions felt anything but humane.

I ended up calling an animal rescue group (I won't name names) to ask for help finding him a new home. I figured he might be a perfect fit for a family without young kids or perhaps some retirees who wanted companionship without the chaos. Before the kids showed up, he was perfectly socialized and peaceful; once they entered the picture, he'd start growling and retreating.

Initially, I was met with accusations that I hadn't taken proper care of him and that the behavior was somehow my fault. Fine. They said they'd see what they could do. A few days later, they called back saying they would bring in a canine behavioral specialist to attempt a treatment plan. Naturally, the bill would fall on me, and from the way they phrased it, I realized the cost would be astronomical. I declined, and just like that, the rescue went silent.

Around that same time, I got a call from a young guy who works professionally with dogs—a trainer and judge—who mentioned he wanted to take him in, work with him, and eventually gift him to his parents. That’s exactly how it played out. The dog is still with them today; I drop by occasionally to check in, and everything is wonderful. He even told me he’d handle the training for free because he views it as a personal challenge—sort of a "dog whisperer" type deal—and said if I ever wanted him back, I could, provided I just covered the cost of food while he was staying there. I didn't have the nerve to take him back, though.

Two months later, the rescue group called to check in on the dog. In passing, I asked if they had managed to find anyone else to adopt him. Of course, they hadn't, but they were more interested in knowing where the dog was and what I had done. When I explained the situation, I was met with a total verbal onslaught; apparently, that's not how things are "supposed" to be handled. First, they demanded to know exactly who I had given him to. I gave them the young man's number, even though I probably shouldn't have. They couldn't seem to get a hold of him (for some reason, since he was reachable by me on the first try), and then the harassment started: threats of filing official reports, insults, and incessant calls for several days straight. Not to mention, my phone would ring after midnight, only for someone to hang up the second I answered. I've never experienced anything like it before or since. The madness only stopped once I asked the young man to call them himself.
I really hope this is just an isolated incident and that other organizations don't operate quite this way.
Gregory Anderson5 Gregory Anderson5 Member
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joined Nov 2010
#25 ·
Jack Rodriguez7 said:A while back, I had this wonderful three-year-old dog who, for reasons I still can't quite wrap my head around, started acting aggressive toward small children. Even though we all absolutely adored him, I wasn't about to gamble with safety—especially since he’s a breed capable of doing some real damage. It was a heavy decision, truly, but I placed a few ads offering him for rehoming, being completely upfront about the behavioral issues. Only two "gentlemen" reached out, and I turned them down immediately; they clearly didn't know the first thing about dogs, and their intentions felt anything but humane.

I ended up calling an animal rescue group (I won't name names) to ask for help finding him a new home. I figured he might be a perfect fit for a family without young kids or perhaps some retirees who wanted companionship without the chaos. Before the kids showed up, he was perfectly socialized and peaceful; once they entered the picture, he'd start growling and retreating.

Initially, I was met with accusations that I hadn't taken proper care of him and that the behavior was somehow my fault. Fine. They said they'd see what they could do. A few days later, they called back saying they would bring in a canine behavioral specialist to attempt a treatment plan. Naturally, the bill would fall on me, and from the way they phrased it, I realized the cost would be astronomical. I declined, and just like that, the rescue went silent.

Around that same time, I got a call from a young guy who works professionally with dogs—a trainer and judge—who mentioned he wanted to take him in, work with him, and eventually gift him to his parents. That’s exactly how it played out. The dog is still with them today; I drop by occasionally to check in, and everything is wonderful. He even told me he’d handle the training for free because he views it as a personal challenge—sort of a "dog whisperer" type deal—and said if I ever wanted him back, I could, provided I just covered the cost of food while he was staying there. I didn't have the nerve to take him back, though.

Two months later, the rescue group called to check in on the dog. In passing, I asked if they had managed to find anyone else to adopt him. Of course, they hadn't, but they were more interested in knowing where the dog was and what I had done. When I explained the situation, I was met with a total verbal onslaught; apparently, that's not how things are "supposed" to be handled. First, they demanded to know exactly who I had given him to. I gave them the young man's number, even though I probably shouldn't have. They couldn't seem to get a hold of him (for some reason, since he was reachable by me on the first try), and then the harassment started: threats of filing official reports, insults, and incessant calls for several days straight. Not to mention, my phone would ring after midnight, only for someone to hang up the second I answered. I've never experienced anything like it before or since. The madness only stopped once I asked the young man to call them himself.
I really hope this is just an isolated incident and that other organizations don't operate quite this way.

I had a nearly identical experience myself. Honestly, the arrogance of these people is unreal—folks who haven't lifted their asses out of their leather armchairs to actually walk a mile in someone else's shoes...

Just look at cases like this and read the comments from people saying things like "...throw him in a bag and toss him in the ocean..." It's always the same crowd, acting like they're somehow superior because of their supposed "tolerance" and "liberalism"... 👎
Harold Richardson Harold Richardson Member
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joined Feb 2014
#26 ·
silvertiger11 said:We simply don't have enough hard facts to determine who the actual aggressor is here.

The article only presents one side of the story.

What’s that even supposed to mean? Like, he actually brought puppies there just to kill them right in front of a shelter? Honestly... I can't tell if the guy is just straight-up moronic, incredibly disrespectful, or if he’s just completely lacking any sense of foresight... maybe all three...

Look, I love animals. I really do. But this whole thing? It’s nothing more than a massive, avoidable screw-up. Pure recklessness. Honestly, we shouldn't be giving this any more oxygen in the news cycle... especially when it's being driven by certain individuals, like that shelter employee with some seriously warped moral priorities...
Megan Hernandez2 Megan Hernandez2 Active Member
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joined Mar 2013
#27 ·
I don't trust those self-proclaimed "animal lovers and environmental activists" any further than I can throw them.

Credit where credit is due: there are people out there actually working for conservation who know their stuff. But most of this crowd? They haven't the slightest clue about the basics, yet feel compelled to lecture everyone else for God knows what reason.

Besides, even if it’s true that someone killed a few dogs, that doesn't justify destroying a man's life—and it certainly isn't an excuse to go after his family.
Megan Hernandez2 Megan Hernandez2 Active Member
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joined Mar 2013
#28 ·
Jerry Wood5 said:
I really don't see how anyone can look at the current state of things and stay silent—it’s just getting harder by the day to ignore the sheer absurdity of the situation we're facing. It feels like we're constantly being pushed toward these inevitable conclusions, yet everyone acts like it's business as usual. I mean, honestly, when you sit back and actually look at the trajectory of these policies, it's almost comical if it weren't so frustratingly predictable. You see it everywhere, from the local level all the way up to Washington, D.C., where the decisions made seem completely disconnected from what's actually happening on the ground in places like Chicago or Houston. It's that same old pattern—constant movement without any actual progress, just spinning our wheels while the people in charge pretend they've got everything under control. It’s exhausting, truly. You try to make sense of it, to find some logic in the chaos, but it’s like trying to solve a puzzle where someone keeps changing the shapes of the pieces halfway through. And don't even get me started on the "solutions" being proposed lately; most of them feel like they were dreamt up by someone who hasn't stepped foot outside of a high-rise office in Manhattan in twenty years. We need real substance, not these polished, empty gestures that do nothing to address the underlying rot. kaže:
Honestly, it scares me—it really does—when I see people trying to balance a dog against a child like they’re two items on a grocery list. You can't just put an equals sign between them when we're talking about the value of a life. It’s not just about kids—it's about people in general.


Honestly, people are just worse than animals. Animals kill to survive, but humans? We kill just because we can—for the sheer thrill of it. And don't even get me started on the hypocrisy and the pure, unadulterated malice that seems to drive so much of what we do. It’s exhausting. We’re systematically wrecking the environment and destroying the very world we have to live in. It's tragic, really.
Honestly, I find myself having way more empathy for animals than for most people I actually know.

You just proved you have no idea what you're talking about—some animals do the exact same thing.
silvertiger11 silvertiger11 Active Member
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#29 ·
Harold Richardson said:What’s that even supposed to mean? Like, he actually brought puppies there just to kill them right in front of a shelter? Honestly... I can't tell if the guy is just straight-up moronic, incredibly disrespectful, or if he’s just completely lacking any sense of foresight... maybe all three...

Look, I love animals. I really do. But this whole thing? It’s nothing more than a massive, avoidable screw-up. Pure recklessness. Honestly, we shouldn't be giving this any more oxygen in the news cycle... especially when it's being driven by certain individuals, like that shelter employee with some seriously warped moral priorities...

Look, I already said what I said: I think we're looking at pure negligence here. 🤷
Bradley Nelson2 Bradley Nelson2 Active Member
175 messages
joined Nov 2009
#30 ·
Oh, really? Like they’d walk up to you and claim they killed him just for kicks, Dr. Dolittle?

I’d lose my mind if someone was actually stupid enough to think dogs don't need air to breathe. But honestly, the best part is this: they spat right in front of the shop where his wife works 🤣 🤣 🤣
And then, immediately after, he starts looking for asylum in America. Give me a break. They spit on the storefront in broad daylight 😂
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
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joined Feb 2017
#31 ·
Frank Moore4 said:This is just another textbook example of how inhumane these self-proclaimed animal rights activists can be. Honestly, half of them probably haven't even walked a dog on a leash, let alone handled actual farm work or livestock. They claim they’re "protecting" animals, but they’d happily step over a human being to do it.

Unfortunately, this is just more evidence of how twisted these Western "liberal values" have become. It’s honestly shameful that our local police aren't stepping in to deal with people like this and filing formal criminal charges for their threats and harassment. At this point, we probably need the courts—and maybe a psychiatric evaluation—to get a handle on them.

Some of them definitely go overboard and act like religious fanatics on a mission, sure. But it's also true that there are actual savages out there who kill or abuse their own pets, and that absolutely needs to be stopped.

I remember a neighbor back when we lived in a rural part of the Midwest; he was a hunter and had this amazing hunting dog that all the neighborhood kids adored. One day, he just lost his temper and shot the dog right in the head. My brother and I were literally crying for days—I mean, what kind of sick individual kills their own dog for no reason? After that, my brother and I didn't want to visit that area at all for a long time. 🤷
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
304 messages
joined Feb 2017
#32 ·
The trouble started nearly a month ago when the ASPCA secretary labeled Potter an "animal abuser" and a "killer" on Facebook. She even went as far as posting his full name along with a photo taken from behind him next to his car, making sure his license plate was clearly visible, all while accusing him of being responsible for the puppies' deaths.

This one is even more unhinged, claiming he suffocated the puppies for no reason at all.🙏

People should just sue these crazed fanatics from that organization and demand damages, plain and simple...
Megan Hernandez2 Megan Hernandez2 Active Member
111 messages
joined Mar 2013
#33 ·
Susan Price30 said:Some of them definitely go overboard and act like religious fanatics on a mission, sure. But it's also true that there are actual savages out there who kill or abuse their own pets, and that absolutely needs to be stopped.

I remember a neighbor back when we lived in a rural part of the Midwest; he was a hunter and had this amazing hunting dog that all the neighborhood kids adored. One day, he just lost his temper and shot the dog right in the head. My brother and I were literally crying for days—I mean, what kind of sick individual kills their own dog for no reason? After that, my brother and I didn't want to visit that area at all for a long time. 🤷

@Susan Price30, if I recall correctly, you live in England?

If that's the case, then you're likely familiar with a certain British tradition—greyhound racing. Massive amounts of money circulate through those races and the breeding industry. For every single greyhound that actually generates profit, several others—maybe even a dozen—are "disposed of" during selection before they ever get a chance to run. A racing career lasts a few years, and once those dogs aren't profitable anymore, most of them end up dead. Only the rare, elite ones are kept for breeding. Some estimates suggest over 10,000 greyhounds lose their lives just to fuel this business.

Still want to talk about how we treat animals?

Current trends aren't helping anyone. Various organizations, activists, and so-called "breeders" are ruining breeds in all sorts of ways. We're moving toward an increasingly shallow and harmful relationship with life and nature in general.
Dennis Bailey2 Dennis Bailey2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#34 ·
It’s excessive, sure, but if we actually treated our politicians with this much intensity, maybe our country wouldn't be such a mess. 😁

Jokes aside, the guy could have just fixed the dog or decided not to own one in the first place to avoid this entire circus. Once the litter arrived, he did what many others do—tried to dump his negligence onto everyone else. He screwed up, and now he's facing the consequences, which happen to be "uncomfortable."

He broke the law. He transported animals improperly. The police aren't doing their jobs, yet here we are—passionate citizens stepping up. 🤷 Poor guy, I feel for him. Have we really become so soft that we think people shouldn't face the fallout of their own (mis)deeds? 🤷 Yes, posting his personal info on Facebook is essentially calling for a mob, but if he hadn't killed five living beings—even through pure negligence—there wouldn't be a reason to expose him. Those poor animals died in agony in a bag at the bottom of a car; he sat there listening to them cry and struggle, driving along calmly, thinking about how to offload the results of his laziness at someone else's expense. What a saint.

Granted, the reaction is extreme, but that’s only because the letter of the law won't be applied to this "gentleman"—meaning he won't be prosecuted or penalized under the ZozŽ. 🤷 People are angry. I don't support harassment, but asking a child, "Does your father abuse animals?" is a perfectly legitimate question. I bet most of you were never asked that in school—care to guess why? 🤷

It's easy to mock the shelter "employees," but let's get one thing straight: they aren't employees, they're volunteers working for free. Look at it this way—animal shelters and rescues in the US are funded by local government, which means THEY ARE FUNDED BY YOUR TAX DOLLARS. When some idiot dumps a bunch of puppies on a shelter, he is actually dumping them on YOU. Yeah, the money that should be going toward fixing highways, building preschools, or renovating parks... it's being eaten up by the puppies of irresponsible owners who show up with a new bag of trouble every few months. You want to foot that bill? Not me. 👎

I know plenty of people who don't like animals, and they solve that problem very simply: they don't own any. ☕

ajduk, you're technically right, but the fact that the person lives in England doesn't mean they're guilty, nor does it mean they support any specific kind of animal exploitation. ☕
vividridge9 vividridge9 Newcomer
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#35 ·
I honestly don't get these animal rights activists, or whatever you want to call them. On one hand, they’re all about protecting these precious little creatures and blaming humanity for every single thing that goes wrong in the animal kingdom. But then, at the exact same time, they turn around and absolutely tear people and their families to shreds. I mean, can anyone actually claim to love animals if they genuinely despise human beings? Just because someone accidentally hits a kid with their car or gets into a heated altercation, that doesn't give anyone the right to harass their entire family. And claiming that an accidental choking incident involving a puppy justifies a full-blown smear campaign against a person? That's just wild. If you ask me, these "animal lovers" mostly just love themselves—they're just using animals as a convenient shield to vent all their own deep-seated frustrations on others.
Dennis Bailey2 Dennis Bailey2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2013
#36 ·
vividridge9 said:I honestly don't get these animal rights activists, or whatever you want to call them. On one hand, they’re all about protecting these precious little creatures and blaming humanity for every single thing that goes wrong in the animal kingdom. But then, at the exact same time, they turn around and absolutely tear people and their families to shreds. I mean, can anyone actually claim to love animals if they genuinely despise human beings? Just because someone accidentally hits a kid with their car or gets into a heated altercation, that doesn't give anyone the right to harass their entire family. And claiming that an accidental choking incident involving a puppy justifies a full-blown smear campaign against a person? That's just wild. If you ask me, these "animal lovers" mostly just love themselves—they're just using animals as a convenient shield to vent all their own deep-seated frustrations on others.

You aren't entirely wrong.

However, I see the root cause of this phenomenon as nothing more than a total failure to enforce existing laws, which is especially glaring when it comes to animal protection.

If we live in a world where someone can run over a kid or beat a man to death and walk away completely unpunished—only to have a cop tell you "don't screw with me" when you try to report it—then yeah, I believe people will resort to harassing those individuals and their families. 🤷
Daniel Bailey39 Daniel Bailey39 Active Member
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joined Apr 2013
#37 ·
The more I wrap my head around this, the more it seems clear that the driver didn't kill those puppies on purpose—it was a complete accident. Honestly, anyone suggesting that a person behind the wheel should just stop to let five little pups cross the road is completely out of touch with reality. They'd be signing their own death warrant. Just try staying focused on the road when you have five puppies jumping all over your personal space; I mean, come on, it’s impossible to stay concentrated...
brightpuma brightpuma Active Member
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#38 ·
Daniel Bailey39 said:The more I wrap my head around this, the more it seems clear that the driver didn't kill those puppies on purpose—it was a complete accident. Honestly, anyone suggesting that a person behind the wheel should just stop to let five little pups cross the road is completely out of touch with reality. They'd be signing their own death warrant. Just try staying focused on the road when you have five puppies jumping all over your personal space; I mean, come on, it’s impossible to stay concentrated...

Puppies that age barely crawl, let alone jump around...

Look, if he’d accidentally run over a bag containing puppies on the highway, that would be an accident. Not his fault if some idiot put them in there.
But locking them in a bag and then claiming they "accidentally" suffocated? That’s just pure stupidity. How do you "accidentally" forget that puppies need to breathe? 🤷

And this talk about calling for a lynching? Who is he even calling out? Those 50 activists over at the Humane Society of Dubrovnik? On a Facebook page? Honestly, way fewer people would have even seen that than what's happening now that the guy's full name is in the news.

At worst, the guy is just plain dumb. He clearly never thinks about the consequences of what he does.
Michael Collins76 Michael Collins76 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2011
#39 ·
This whole story just proves that animal lovers can be pretty much people-haters at the same time....
It feels incredibly hypocritical to go to bat for puppies just because they’re "cute and helpless," while staying totally silent about the massive, everyday slaughter of cows, calves, chickens, sheep, goats, pigs, and literally tons of fish and marine life...
So, why is one little dog supposedly worth more than a cow???
Does it somehow have a greater right to live?
I mean, if you dropped a person and a dog on a deserted island with zero food, once starvation really kicks in, the dog would probably eat the person—but a cow wouldn't.

Look, we still have plenty of people out there who are hungry, broke, freezing, and homeless. They're the ones who actually need our help!
Let's maybe dial back the pity for animals. They can look out for themselves. ☕
Or maybe they’ve just decided they want us to play nanny?😂
Dennis Bailey2 Dennis Bailey2 Active Member
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#40 ·
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Michael Collins76 said:This whole story just proves that animal lovers can be pretty much people-haters at the same time....
It feels incredibly hypocritical to go to bat for puppies just because they’re "cute and helpless," while staying totally silent about the massive, everyday slaughter of cows, calves, chickens, sheep, goats, pigs, and literally tons of fish and marine life...
So, why is one little dog supposedly worth more than a cow???
Does it somehow have a greater right to live?
I mean, if you dropped a person and a dog on a deserted island with zero food, once starvation really kicks in, the dog would probably eat the person—but a cow wouldn't.

Look, we still have plenty of people out there who are hungry, broke, freezing, and homeless. They're the ones who actually need our help!
Let's maybe dial back the pity for animals. They can look out for themselves. ☕
Or maybe they’ve just decided they want us to play nanny?😂

A valid syllogism—as precise as proper grammar.


Michael Collins76 said:This whole story just proves that animal lovers can be pretty much people-haters at the same time....
It feels incredibly hypocritical to go to bat for puppies just because they’re "cute and helpless," while staying totally silent about the massive, everyday slaughter of cows, calves, chickens, sheep, goats, pigs, and literally tons of fish and marine life...
So, why is one little dog supposedly worth more than a cow???
Does it somehow have a greater right to live?
I mean, if you dropped a person and a dog on a deserted island with zero food, once starvation really kicks in, the dog would probably eat the person—but a cow wouldn't.

Look, we still have plenty of people out there who are hungry, broke, freezing, and homeless. They're the ones who actually need our help!
Let's maybe dial back the pity for animals. They can look out for themselves. ☕
Or maybe they’ve just decided they want us to play nanny?😂

So, nothing? Not even a flicker of movement? 🤔 For someone speaking with that much self-righteousness, you’re clearly pretty ill-informed. ☕
Look, most of the animal welfare groups out there aren't just acting alone. They’re all bundled together into this massive network of associations that handles everything from local rescues to broader advocacy—covering pretty much every species you can think of, not just the stray dogs. ☕
To be perfectly clear, what you've written here is simply untrue.

Michael Collins76 said:This whole story just proves that animal lovers can be pretty much people-haters at the same time....
It feels incredibly hypocritical to go to bat for puppies just because they’re "cute and helpless," while staying totally silent about the massive, everyday slaughter of cows, calves, chickens, sheep, goats, pigs, and literally tons of fish and marine life...
So, why is one little dog supposedly worth more than a cow???
Does it somehow have a greater right to live?
I mean, if you dropped a person and a dog on a deserted island with zero food, once starvation really kicks in, the dog would probably eat the person—but a cow wouldn't.

Look, we still have plenty of people out there who are hungry, broke, freezing, and homeless. They're the ones who actually need our help!
Let's maybe dial back the pity for animals. They can look out for themselves. ☕
Or maybe they’ve just decided they want us to play nanny?😂

🤦

Michael Collins76 said:This whole story just proves that animal lovers can be pretty much people-haters at the same time....
It feels incredibly hypocritical to go to bat for puppies just because they’re "cute and helpless," while staying totally silent about the massive, everyday slaughter of cows, calves, chickens, sheep, goats, pigs, and literally tons of fish and marine life...
So, why is one little dog supposedly worth more than a cow???
Does it somehow have a greater right to live?
I mean, if you dropped a person and a dog on a deserted island with zero food, once starvation really kicks in, the dog would probably eat the person—but a cow wouldn't.

Look, we still have plenty of people out there who are hungry, broke, freezing, and homeless. They're the ones who actually need our help!
Let's maybe dial back the pity for animals. They can look out for themselves. ☕
Or maybe they’ve just decided they want us to play nanny?😂

This is the classic playbook used by people who don't actually care about helping anyone—they only care about themselves. It’s a pattern of deflection. When you support animal rescues, they ask, "Why aren't you helping people instead?" When you help addicts, they claim, "Why waste resources on that loser instead of someone deserving?" If you support people living with HIV, they pivot to, "Why help those degenerates when there are honest people in need?" And if you donate to hungry kids in Africa, they whine, "Why look abroad when we have plenty of poverty right here in the States?" Strip away the moral posturing and the truth is much uglier. What they’re really saying is: "Stop spending your money on them and give it to me."

Get this through your head: helping anyone is a noble act. It doesn't matter if that person is just one individual or an entire planet. Whether someone decides to dedicate their life like Mother Teresa, fight for a local neighborhood playground, or just toss a crust of bread to a stray cat—that’s their call to make. Every person has the right to spend their time, resources, and heart however they see fit; we don't all have to follow your directives. Any one of those acts is a million times more dignified than your petty bitterness and obvious hatred for everything living and breathing.

Michael Collins76 said:This whole story just proves that animal lovers can be pretty much people-haters at the same time....
It feels incredibly hypocritical to go to bat for puppies just because they’re "cute and helpless," while staying totally silent about the massive, everyday slaughter of cows, calves, chickens, sheep, goats, pigs, and literally tons of fish and marine life...
So, why is one little dog supposedly worth more than a cow???
Does it somehow have a greater right to live?
I mean, if you dropped a person and a dog on a deserted island with zero food, once starvation really kicks in, the dog would probably eat the person—but a cow wouldn't.

Look, we still have plenty of people out there who are hungry, broke, freezing, and homeless. They're the ones who actually need our help!
Let's maybe dial back the pity for animals. They can look out for themselves. ☕
Or maybe they’ve just decided they want us to play nanny?😂

Oh, really? They haven't? 🤔 Are you suggesting that the bitch belonging to this "responsible gentleman"—who so humbly mismanaged her—didn't produce puppies thanks to his sheer irresponsibility, negligence, and lack of care? Did the puppies just spontaneously manifest in his lap? Did his bitch just happen to get pregnant despite him being such a diligent owner? Are you trying to say someone else is responsible for these puppies instead of him? Are you claiming dogs, as a species, exist for some other reason rather than because humans bred, raised, and kept them for themselves? 🤷 Please. We are talking about a domestic dog here, not a Great White Shark. A Great White Shark exists simply because it exists. I could argue this is more like a litter of Great White pups that just happened to end up in this guy's possession. But a domestic dog breeds exclusively when we allow it, specifically because we choose to care for them, and if we don't want that to happen, then for heaven's sake, we should ensure it DOESN'T happen. ☕

Comparing a child to a dog is disgusting, I agree, but the fact remains: owning an animal carries specific responsibilities. This includes the owner's duty to manage their pet or prevent its offspring from being born. It isn't rocket science; it's simple:
a) spay or neuter the dog,
b) isolate the dog during heat cycles,
c) don't own a dog at all, if you aren't willing to deal with its offspring or commit to options A or B.
Simple enough, right?

To those commenting on the bag: there are valid federal and state regulations regarding the transport of animals, including puppies. There are also standardized crates designed for safe, risk-free transport that are mandated by law.

This isn't a question of whether the puppies are cute or not. The gentleman broke the law, and he needs to answer for it. A heavy fine and a few weeks of forced community service—ideally at a local animal shelter where he can clean up after the sick dogs of other "responsible" owners just like him—would be the ideal punishment. Maybe our "modest gentleman" would actually think twice about why all this mess exists, which is funded by taxpayer dollars: his mess is caused by the dogs produced by irresponsible owners like him.

Everyone loves to attack non-profits, but it's easy to throw stones at others. What you don't realize is that the problem is YOURS. If we didn't have irresponsible gentlemen like the one described here, there wouldn't be abandoned animals, there wouldn't be shelters, and there wouldn't be money being spent on them. If individuals took responsibility for their actions—meaning, if they properly controlled their pets' breeding—millions of dollars—about $15 million just in a city like Chicago—could be spent on building playgrounds, daycares, and schools... instead of, well, someone has to clean up dog crap.

When it comes to those overzealous animal control officers, they belong in court just as much as this guy's buddies do. Attacking people isn't the solution. The real way forward is education and forcing the government agencies to actually do their jobs. Look, I get why the rescuers are frustrated, but I am NOT justifying their behavior.

The only takeaway here is that our legal system is even more dead than those dogs were. ☕

And as for what the kids are saying to his children... honestly, kids will be kids. They always seem to hit the nail right on the head.

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