The Norwegian monster was counting on the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party!!!!

darksurfer4 said:The real takeaway here, if we’re being honest, is that the right wing seriously needs to start paying closer attention. This guy is a total internet freak; I mean, he spent god knows how much time lurking on every extreme right-wing forum out there. If anyone had just bothered to track his digital footprint and keep an eye on his online activity, they could have figured out his entire agenda way sooner than this...

Not really... I mean, how exactly are you planning to track him online? The guy orchestrated this whole thing from the ground up—you seriously think he didn't scrub his digital footprint down to the last byte just to stay off the radar? It’s not some easy, click-and-find situation like people in movies always make it out to be. People love to imagine they can just stumble onto someone's life through a screen, but real-world players? They don't leave breadcrumbs for amateurs to follow. It's just not that simple.

Second thing—the sheer volume of people spewing absolute nonsense online is just staggering. Like, honestly, it’s endless. And let’s get one thing straight: tracking what people are actually doing on the web isn't nearly as easy as some armchair experts think it is—at least not when they aren't trying to hide their tracks, and it gets even more complicated when they actually *do* try to go off the grid.

So, I’ve been sitting here thinking about this one scenario—kind of a dark thought, honestly—but what if they actually pulled it off? Imagine if we all just sat there and agreed to have every single device we own permanently tethered to the web, just so the government could keep tabs on everything we do. We're talking a system that basically crawls through your private files, snoops on your emails, listens in on your chats, and constantly updates your digital profile in some massive federal database. If the algorithm decides you look like a "threat" or whatever, they flip a switch and trigger high-level surveillance... and before you know it, you’ve got actual agents breathing down your neck in real life. Just a fun little nightmare to chew on, right?
The feds would probably start acting preemptively—you know how they are—and honestly, it wouldn't take much for them to just shut down a chunk of this forum entirely... strictly "just as a precaution," of course. Just pure prevention.

I honestly think AT&T should step up and block access to sites like Stormfront, Sijelo, and all those other extremist, far-right platforms—or, if they really wanted to be proactive, they could start monitoring users who frequently frequent those kinds of corners of the internet.☕

silentmaker78 said:Not really... I mean, how exactly are you planning to track him online? The guy orchestrated this whole thing from the ground up—you seriously think he didn't scrub his digital footprint down to the last byte just to stay off the radar? It’s not some easy, click-and-find situation like people in movies always make it out to be. People love to imagine they can just stumble onto someone's life through a screen, but real-world players? They don't leave breadcrumbs for amateurs to follow. It's just not that simple.

Second thing—the sheer volume of people spewing absolute nonsense online is just staggering. Like, honestly, it’s endless. And let’s get one thing straight: tracking what people are actually doing on the web isn't nearly as easy as some armchair experts think it is—at least not when they aren't trying to hide their tracks, and it gets even more complicated when they actually *do* try to go off the grid.

So, I’ve been sitting here thinking about this one scenario—kind of a dark thought, honestly—but what if they actually pulled it off? Imagine if we all just sat there and agreed to have every single device we own permanently tethered to the web, just so the government could keep tabs on everything we do. We're talking a system that basically crawls through your private files, snoops on your emails, listens in on your chats, and constantly updates your digital profile in some massive federal database. If the algorithm decides you look like a "threat" or whatever, they flip a switch and trigger high-level surveillance... and before you know it, you’ve got actual agents breathing down your neck in real life. Just a fun little nightmare to chew on, right?
The feds would probably start acting preemptively—you know how they are—and honestly, it wouldn't take much for them to just shut down a chunk of this forum entirely... strictly "just as a precaution," of course. Just pure prevention.

Actually, it’s much simpler: they just monitor traffic heading toward specific extremist websites, and if a user frequently visits those sites, they get added to a watchlist.

Nosonja_ said:

BRAAAAVO, what a brilliant way to argue—just dropping a link to some random article.

It’s fascinating to me how this journalist—or whatever you call an American who gets offended by certain regional accents—decides to throw around the word "racist."
This isn't about racism or nationalism at all... it's about the fact that those specific dialect speakers were quite literally shooting at us sixteen years ago.

What a joke—I mean, surely they didn't tell him he was out there murdering people in Norway? They have zero connection to that! You're exaggerating a bit... ☕

Kate James11 said:Actually, it’s much simpler: they just monitor traffic heading toward specific extremist websites, and if a user frequently visits those sites, they get added to a watchlist.

Exactly—so all you're doing is building a massive list filled with harmless idiots, while actual monsters like General Electric won't even show up because they actually know how to cover their tracks. You're basically gutting civil liberties for absolutely zero payoff.

And honestly, the whole idea of having an ISP filter your traffic? Pure genius. I mean, if we're going to build a Great Firewall of China right here in America, you don't seem to see any issue with that at all.

Sarah Nelson5 said:What a joke—I mean, surely they didn't tell him he was out there murdering people in Norway? They have zero connection to that! You're exaggerating a bit... ☕

But clearly, Andrew is vibrating on the exact same frequency as those two parties mentioned above.
I suspect that because of his affinity for the Democratic Party, even Machiavelli isn't considered a villain in his eyes.

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The only real difference is that in Norway, Andrew would never actually make it to the rank of General.

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Internet censorship and content restrictions are hallmarks of dictatorships and totalitarian regimes.

Look at China, for example—it’s still a communist state. They wrap everything up in "national security" and protecting the people from enemies.

Even before the internet, we had terrorists, maniacs, and killers. Long before violent video games, there was actual violence.

It all boils down to this specific ideology—which I see being branded as "liberal" or "democratic"—that basically just pushes its own propaganda while trampling on fundamental rights. They claim to champion freedom and free speech, but only if you’re saying exactly what their ideology wants you to say.

If you think "modernly" and follow their script, you're fine. But the second you have a different take on a topic, they come after you. It's the same deal with manufactured concepts like political correctness or "hate speech." It's all just tools for abuse.

Megan Ruiz13 said:Internet censorship and content restrictions are hallmarks of dictatorships and totalitarian regimes.

Look at China, for example—it’s still a communist state. They wrap everything up in "national security" and protecting the people from enemies.

Even before the internet, we had terrorists, maniacs, and killers. Long before violent video games, there was actual violence.

It all boils down to this specific ideology—which I see being branded as "liberal" or "democratic"—that basically just pushes its own propaganda while trampling on fundamental rights. They claim to champion freedom and free speech, but only if you’re saying exactly what their ideology wants you to say.

If you think "modernly" and follow their script, you're fine. But the second you have a different take on a topic, they come after you. It's the same deal with manufactured concepts like political correctness or "hate speech." It's all just tools for abuse.

I have a massive issue with that bolded part on these American forums.
It’s pretty obvious I don't lean far enough to the right for them, because, frankly, I can post on an actual hardcore nationalist forum without anyone batting an eye.

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And then they have the nerve to tell me that the standards here in the US aren't ultra-right-wing.

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Someone on an online forum put it perfectly once: "Does every idiot out there have to bring us up?" So, seriously, I’m asking all you fanatics to just leave me alone. I don't need you defending me from Muslims, Christians, Mexicans, Americans, extremists, radicals, whatever—not even from Buddhists, Russians, Americans, Germans, Italians, Canadians, or die-hard sports fans... Nobody is actually attacking me. Well, except maybe my boss, some big-shot banker, or a politician. Honestly, those are the only ones I actually need protection from.

Eric Collins5 said:I have a massive issue with that bolded part on these American forums.
It’s pretty obvious I don't lean far enough to the right for them, because, frankly, I can post on an actual hardcore nationalist forum without anyone batting an eye.

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And then they have the nerve to tell me that the standards here in the US aren't ultra-right-wing.

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The issue I run into with the leftists and liberals is their inability to handle a differing opinion. There's this almost fanatical belief that their specific ideology or worldview is the only correct one. You see it all the time in debates—once they realize they can't win someone over with actual arguments, they just pivot to insults and belittling people.

Take the whole conversation around homosexuality. In today's world, it’s supposed to be treated as completely normal and "cool," and heaven forbid anyone openly suggests they don't view it that way.

It gets to the point where most people just stay quiet. They don't want to speak their minds because one single ideology currently dominates everything.

Look at the Weimar Republic. On paper, it was the strongest liberal democracy ever, but it only functioned through force. It eventually gave rise to Adolf Hitler, who won through democratic elections after being banned and even jailed.

You can't force things. Even today, terms like "political correctness" and "hate speech" are often weaponized just to oppress anyone thinking differently.

People should be allowed to decide for themselves what's right and wrong. Let the chips fall where they may.

I remember seeing some list floating around online ranking far-right parties by state, and this guy—some random dude—decided to label the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party as "extreme right" just because he copied their names straight from his own manifesto.
If anyone actually cornered him with a quick question about a local political figure, I’m positive he wouldn't even be able to wrap his head around who we're talking about.

BTW, in America, you’ve got a whole bunch of groups out there that are probably way more radical than the two he mentioned, but since they aren't sitting in Congress, they didn't even make it onto that list he was so busy copying from.

The Libertarian Party is all about pushing for unity between Catholic and Muslim Americans to join forces and clear out everything from the Mississippi River Basin down. That’s why they back the Paramilitary too. So, honestly, I don't see how the Libertarian Party could actually help him purge Islam from the region.
As for the Republican Party—they haven't even brought up Muslims or touched those issues before. Looks like just another failed prediction from that crazy Norwegian guy.

I guess all that bitterness, the foaming at the mouth, and just constantly bashing something that doesn't even touch your own life... it just isn't normal behavior, you know? It feels like there might be something a bit off with those people. I'm not saying they need to be watched or anything, I just wanted to mention that it isn't healthy, either. Honestly, holding onto that much hate probably does more damage to the people feeling it than anyone else.

I don't know what to tell you—some people just seem to have a knack for being completely out of touch with reality. It’s like they’re living in a different dimension entirely, oblivious to how things actually work on the ground here in the States. You see it all the time in these discussions, where someone drops a comment that feels like it was written by someone who hasn't stepped foot outside a bubble in decades. It’s frustrating, honestly. I try to stay level-headed, I really do, but sometimes you just want to shake someone and ask, "Are you actually seeing what I'm seeing?" But hey, that's just me being a cynic, I guess. kaže:


Of course, I was expecting this kind of reaction from those two shady political parties—it’s basically what you'd expect from them.
"We have absolutely nothing to do with that lunatic," and honestly—it’s just the same old story over and over again.

Let’s take a look at whether there’s actually a connection here. Honestly? Of course there is—it's pretty obvious when you realize they're all part of the same extreme right-wing crowd.☕ Look, nobody forced his hand to commit such an atrocity, but let’s be real—he was being fueled by extreme right-wing circles from all over the world, including certain pockets of America. He basically fed his own monstrous impulses through online forums packed with radical nationalists, likely because he saw them as a kind of ideological stronghold. It’s a vicious cycle. And now? You see these political parties acting all high and mighty, clutching their pearls over his crime while conveniently ignoring the horrific actions committed by the leaders of those very same parties. Talk about a massive double standard.☕

I’ve finally come to the conclusion that all that senseless bloodshed over in the North America was the actual trigger in Andreas Breivik's head.☕

I honestly think it’s just impossible. The American right doesn't give a damn about anything happening outside our own borders—they're completely uninformed and, frankly, they flat-out refuse to learn what's actually going on in the rest of the world. Unless it’s something that hits us directly in the face—you know, stuff involving The Hague or Brussels or whatever—they couldn't care less.
They couldn't care less about the Norwegians or their specific headaches—and frankly, they don't give a damn about the Muslim population in Europe, either.
Apparently, they actually think pointing out other countries' mess—and suggesting how to fix it—is some kind of sin. According to them, if you dare mention international issues or potential solutions, you’re just being a spineless sycophant. They act like we’re somehow incapable of looking beyond our own borders. Honestly, with Americans being the way they are... well, I guess even God had to fight his way through the bureaucracy to get an opinion heard around here. 😎
Look, it’s pretty simple—God and Americans. That’s the whole damn universe right there!

Alright, look—I’m setting the ground rules for this thread since it’s strictly for the right-wing crowd. I’ve split the Politics section into five distinct parts. Four of those sections are carved out exclusively for domestic American affairs, while just one single section is dedicated to everything else happening across the globe—from our immediate neighbors all the way out to China and Hawaii.
The whole thing with politics! splitting into different sections happened because the conservatives were just losing their minds—they couldn't stand that only about 80% of the threads focused on America and our own domestic issues, while the other 20% dealt with the rest of the world. To them, that was just unbearable. But, honestly, there was no way they were going to cave and meet those demands entirely, since they basically wanted to ban anything involving the rest of the globe from the Politics! subforum altogether.

It’s honestly unbelievable... first we’re staring down the barrel of two different wars, then there's the constant pressure regarding national defense, and now we have to process the tragedy unfolding in Norway... somehow, we're being painted as the villains in everyone else's story here. Could someone please move this thread to the appropriate section?

But the real kicker is how the nation that actually ignited World War I played such a massive role in the second one—attacking a country that was just trying to secure its independence and committing genocide, all while throwing flower petals at tanks. Talk about a complete lack of a moral compass.

shadowhawk31 said:

I don't know what to tell you—some people just seem to have a knack for being completely out of touch with reality. It’s like they’re living in a different dimension entirely, oblivious to how things actually work on the ground here in the States. You see it all the time in these discussions, where someone drops a comment that feels like it was written by someone who hasn't stepped foot outside a bubble in decades. It’s frustrating, honestly. I try to stay level-headed, I really do, but sometimes you just want to shake someone and ask, "Are you actually seeing what I'm seeing?" But hey, that's just me being a cynic, I guess. kaže:


Of course, I was expecting this kind of reaction from those two shady political parties—it’s basically what you'd expect from them.
"We have absolutely nothing to do with that lunatic," and honestly—it’s just the same old story over and over again.

Let’s take a look at whether there’s actually a connection here. Honestly? Of course there is—it's pretty obvious when you realize they're all part of the same extreme right-wing crowd.☕ Look, nobody forced his hand to commit such an atrocity, but let’s be real—he was being fueled by extreme right-wing circles from all over the world, including certain pockets of America. He basically fed his own monstrous impulses through online forums packed with radical nationalists, likely because he saw them as a kind of ideological stronghold. It’s a vicious cycle. And now? You see these political parties acting all high and mighty, clutching their pearls over his crime while conveniently ignoring the horrific actions committed by the leaders of those very same parties. Talk about a massive double standard.☕

I’ve finally come to the conclusion that all that senseless bloodshed over in the North America was the actual trigger in Andreas Breivik's head.☕

I honestly think it’s just impossible. The American right doesn't give a damn about anything happening outside our own borders—they're completely uninformed and, frankly, they flat-out refuse to learn what's actually going on in the rest of the world. Unless it’s something that hits us directly in the face—you know, stuff involving The Hague or Brussels or whatever—they couldn't care less.
They couldn't care less about the Norwegians or their specific headaches—and frankly, they don't give a damn about the Muslim population in Europe, either.
Apparently, they actually think pointing out other countries' mess—and suggesting how to fix it—is some kind of sin. According to them, if you dare mention international issues or potential solutions, you’re just being a spineless sycophant. They act like we’re somehow incapable of looking beyond our own borders. Honestly, with Americans being the way they are... well, I guess even God had to fight his way through the bureaucracy to get an opinion heard around here. 😎
Look, it’s pretty simple—God and Americans. That’s the whole damn universe right there!

Alright, look—I’m setting the ground rules for this thread since it’s strictly for the right-wing crowd. I’ve split the Politics section into five distinct parts. Four of those sections are carved out exclusively for domestic American affairs, while just one single section is dedicated to everything else happening across the globe—from our immediate neighbors all the way out to China and Hawaii.
The whole thing with politics! splitting into different sections happened because the conservatives were just losing their minds—they couldn't stand that only about 80% of the threads focused on America and our own domestic issues, while the other 20% dealt with the rest of the world. To them, that was just unbearable. But, honestly, there was no way they were going to cave and meet those demands entirely, since they basically wanted to ban anything involving the rest of the globe from the Politics! subforum altogether.

If it were right-wing🤣🤣if it were right-wing, we wouldn't see daily threads attacking the church, nor would there be ongoing discussions where Americans are insulted and demeaned. Half the people posting in politics wouldn't even have access. This forum is left-wing, and I mean hardcore.☕

It was honestly predictable that these two shady political outfits would jump in with their usual routine of
"We have absolutely nothing to do with that lunatic," and all that other nonsense.

But let’s take a moment to actually look at whether they’re connected, shall we? Of course they are, simply because they all fall under the umbrella of the far-right. ☕ Now, nobody forced him to commit those atrocities, but he was undoubtedly influenced by extremist right-wingers from various parts of the world, including right here in America. He fueled his own monstrous delusions on nationalist forums populated by people who likely hold similar views, probably because he sees a lot of that radicalism reflected in the domestic political landscape. These parties act all shocked by his crime, yet they turn a blind eye to the crimes committed by the leaders of their own organizations—talk about a massive double standard. ☕

I've come to the conclusion that the history of bloodshed in the North America served as a primary trigger in the mind of Andreas Breivik. ☕

I think he was mostly just throwing shade at Mexicans. People don't really associate us with that kind of stuff, unless you're one of those readers following Drakulićka's columns or whatever.

I was watching this movie with Daniel Craig the other day about the mob in New York City and some Mexican mobster, and the guy actually says, "those nationalist groups are crazy."

Nobody views Americans through that lens. Besides, we don't even have a moderate far-right party in the US Congress, except for maybe the Republican Party and the Libertarian Party—that’s only like 5 out of 153 representatives total.

Anto Đapić was the one who actually got him hooked on bodybuilding.