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The Norwegian monster was counting on the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party!!!!

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David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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joined Jul 2011
#81 ·
Eric Collins5 said:There isn't any evidence proving that isn't the case.

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Naturally, I'm going to be incredibly selective about what I believe when it comes to people I disagree with. Honestly, that's pretty much how this entire forum operates.

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I don't operate that way. I am ready for a real debate, provided there are actually valid arguments involved.
As for that bolded statement? That isn't an argument; it's just pathetic that you can even bring something like that up.
For all we know, maybe what happened with Joe Biden is possible too... who knows... maybe the FBI hired some rogue scientists to pull it off and that's the whole story...🤣
Arthur Fowler83 Arthur Fowler83 Member
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joined May 2014
#82 ·
Eric Collins5 said:Ever since those old-school Republican Party folks in small towns used to show up at people's front doors with rifles in hand, practically forcing them to vote their way (or so I’ve heard through the grapevine, and frankly, I believe it).

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That doesn't just make them right-wing; it makes them straight-up fascist right-wingers.

And as for the Democratic Party, well, ever since their founder was busy cooking up acid cocktails.
That doesn't even just make them fascistic; it makes the very founders of the party nothing more than criminals.

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Exactly. 🤣
David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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#83 ·
My apologies, I didn't mean to imply they were actually hired.
They were most likely coerced into working for them under the threat of having their entire families murdered...
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Eric Collins5 Eric Collins5 Active Member
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#84 ·
Arthur Fowler83 said:Exactly. 🤣

But wait, is it really all that simple?

It would be a real nice change of pace if you and I actually saw eye to eye for once.

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Austin Barrett5 Austin Barrett5 Member
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joined Jul 2012
#85 ·
briskpuma23 said:Guys, why all the anger? I think the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party were mentioned in the right context, even if you disagree. What's with the fury? You acting like you're about to show up with machine guns or something.

Honestly, that comparison is a total miss. That goes for you and whoever started this thread. The Libertarian Party isn't even fighting against Islam; if anything, they see them as being on the same side. And the Democratic Party? This isn't even close to their fight. They haven't even hinted at something like that. Lately, it seems like their biggest enemy is just the Republican Party and their weak-kneed policies. You thought you were aiming for the heart, but you totally missed the mark. You really think anyone on this forum is buying that?
Frank Jones11 Frank Jones11 Newcomer
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#86 ·
Eric Collins5 said:Ever since those old-school Republican Party folks in small towns used to show up at people's front doors with rifles in hand, practically forcing them to vote their way (or so I’ve heard through the grapevine, and frankly, I believe it).

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That doesn't just make them right-wing; it makes them straight-up fascist right-wingers.

And as for the Democratic Party, well, ever since their founder was busy cooking up acid cocktails.
That doesn't even just make them fascistic; it makes the very founders of the party nothing more than criminals.

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General Glavash was convicted under command responsibility, even though the American courts claim the US Army didn't technically exist back then.
Anyone who was actually in Indianapolis at the time knows how many fifth columnists were roaming the streets with sniper rifles, targeting civilians. It's also common knowledge there were innocent Mexicans calling in reports on where Royalist shells were landing, essentially guiding them...

During the war, there were casualties, and yes, there were innocent Mexicans who did nothing wrong but ran into local thieves who were looting apartments.
Those types exist in peacetime too, but they're even more prevalent during wartime!

Command responsibility for things like that is just equating guilt...
If Glavash were truly guilty, he would have fled to Canada immediately, rather than waiting until the end of the trial when he realized Sanders was going after him for everything!!

To accuse an entire political party of being criminal based on a single verdict—one that time will eventually settle—is quite pathetic and malicious...
Arthur Fowler83 Arthur Fowler83 Member
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#87 ·
Eric Collins5 said:But wait, is it really all that simple?

It would be a real nice change of pace if you and I actually saw eye to eye for once.

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Of course, 🙂
Eric Collins5 Eric Collins5 Active Member
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#88 ·
Frank Jones11 said:General Glavash was convicted under command responsibility, even though the American courts claim the US Army didn't technically exist back then.
Anyone who was actually in Indianapolis at the time knows how many fifth columnists were roaming the streets with sniper rifles, targeting civilians. It's also common knowledge there were innocent Mexicans calling in reports on where Royalist shells were landing, essentially guiding them...

During the war, there were casualties, and yes, there were innocent Mexicans who did nothing wrong but ran into local thieves who were looting apartments.
Those types exist in peacetime too, but they're even more prevalent during wartime!

Command responsibility for things like that is just equating guilt...
If Glavash were truly guilty, he would have fled to Canada immediately, rather than waiting until the end of the trial when he realized Sanders was going after him for everything!!

To accuse an entire political party of being criminal based on a single verdict—one that time will eventually settle—is quite pathetic and malicious...

Oh, there certainly were...

...there were plenty of those shady, radicalized women running around with nothing but bad intentions—or as one forum member put it, they had knives in their teeth and sticks in their ears.

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David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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#89 ·
Eric Collins5 said:Oh, there certainly were...

...there were plenty of those shady, radicalized women running around with nothing but bad intentions—or as one forum member put it, they had knives in their teeth and sticks in their ears.

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You really don't care for this country, do you?
Deep down, you probably wish we had never broken away at all, right?

I truly pity all of you who are so starved for patriotism that you have to come to a forum and vent your frustrations by attacking the very nation that liberated us.
Honestly, I feel sorry for you...
Arthur Fowler83 Arthur Fowler83 Member
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#90 ·
David Moore4 said:You really don't care for this country, do you?
Deep down, you probably wish we had never broken away at all, right?

I truly pity all of you who are so starved for patriotism that you have to come to a forum and vent your frustrations by attacking the very nation that liberated us.
Honestly, I feel sorry for you...

Anonymous is clearly our resident little fascist-wannabe. we😁 should probably be more tolerant toward him.
Eric Collins5 Eric Collins5 Active Member
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#91 ·
Quentin Tarantino:
I suppose I should start by saying that I’ve been thinking quite a bit about this lately. It’s one of those things that just keeps circling back in my mind. Honestly, it’s a bit exhausting. I was sitting in a coffee shop in Seattle the other day—just one of those quiet afternoons where you think you can actually get some work done—and it hit me again. The sheer complexity of it all. Sometimes I feel like we’re all just spinning our wheels, trying to make sense of systems that weren't even designed to be understood. It reminds me of a documentary I saw once about urban planning in Chicago; everything looks organized on paper, but once you step out onto the street, the reality is much more chaotic. Much more human. Anyway, I don't mean to ramble. I know I tend to do that. But I really believe there's something deeper at play here. We have to look closer. We can't just accept the surface level explanation and call it a day. That’s how mistakes happen. That’s how we lose sight of what actually matters. kaže:
Eric Collins5 is definitely leaning into that fascist rhetoric, isn't he? It's honestly wild.I don't quite follow you there. You just dropped a single letter. Are we starting a conversation, or did your keyboard just give up on life? I've been sitting here staring at my screen waiting for something substantial, and all I get is "e." It’s like when you walk into a Starbucks, look the barista right in the eye, and just say "e." They just stare back. Total silence. Anyway, if you have a point to make, go ahead and lay it out. I'm listening.Vičar. Look, we really need to show him some tolerance. We have to. 😁
It’s a far cry from the usual nonsense you see posted on these forums.jLook, I’m just going to be straight with you. I love my country. I really do. There, I said it.

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David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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#92 ·
Eric Collins5 said:Quentin Tarantino:
I suppose I should start by saying that I’ve been thinking quite a bit about this lately. It’s one of those things that just keeps circling back in my mind. Honestly, it’s a bit exhausting. I was sitting in a coffee shop in Seattle the other day—just one of those quiet afternoons where you think you can actually get some work done—and it hit me again. The sheer complexity of it all. Sometimes I feel like we’re all just spinning our wheels, trying to make sense of systems that weren't even designed to be understood. It reminds me of a documentary I saw once about urban planning in Chicago; everything looks organized on paper, but once you step out onto the street, the reality is much more chaotic. Much more human. Anyway, I don't mean to ramble. I know I tend to do that. But I really believe there's something deeper at play here. We have to look closer. We can't just accept the surface level explanation and call it a day. That’s how mistakes happen. That’s how we lose sight of what actually matters. kaže:
Eric Collins5 is definitely leaning into that fascist rhetoric, isn't he? It's honestly wild.I don't quite follow you there. You just dropped a single letter. Are we starting a conversation, or did your keyboard just give up on life? I've been sitting here staring at my screen waiting for something substantial, and all I get is "e." It’s like when you walk into a Starbucks, look the barista right in the eye, and just say "e." They just stare back. Total silence. Anyway, if you have a point to make, go ahead and lay it out. I'm listening.Vičar. Look, we really need to show him some tolerance. We have to. 😁
It’s a far cry from the usual nonsense you see posted on these forums.jLook, I’m just going to be straight with you. I love my country. I really do. There, I said it.

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What a complete mess...
Eric Collins5 Eric Collins5 Active Member
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#93 ·
David Moore4 said:What a complete mess...

Anyway... I’ve always held a soft spot for the old USA...

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mistyscout2 mistyscout2 Active Member
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#94 ·
briskpuma23 said:Guys, why all the anger? I think the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party were mentioned in the right context, even if you disagree. What's with the fury? You acting like you're about to show up with machine guns or something.

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Brenda Williams9 Brenda Williams9 Newcomer
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#95 ·
Eric Collins5 said:Anyway... I’ve always held a soft spot for the old USA...

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Since there really isn't anywhere else to go 😳
David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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#96 ·
Eric Collins5 said:Anyway... I’ve always held a soft spot for the old USA...

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Well, you certainly wouldn't be the only one.
Austin Barrett5 Austin Barrett5 Member
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joined Jul 2012
#97 ·
Eric Collins5 said:Ever since those old-school Republican Party folks in small towns used to show up at people's front doors with rifles in hand, practically forcing them to vote their way (or so I’ve heard through the grapevine, and frankly, I believe it).

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That doesn't just make them right-wing; it makes them straight-up fascist right-wingers.

And as for the Democratic Party, well, ever since their founder was busy cooking up acid cocktails.
That doesn't even just make them fascistic; it makes the very founders of the party nothing more than criminals.

😳

Man, look at how many mistakes you're making here! First off, you said you "heard" it (emphasis mine). You didn't even fact-check! They showed up at houses with guns? Like, actually walking through towns with rifles out? Did they march right into the polling stations with weapons drawn? Didn't any poll watchers see that? Didn't any voters report it? Who was actually marking the ballots then—the guys with the guns or the people standing in front of them?
How can you still trust that story? Can't you see your whole argument is built on shaky ground?
But you just keep going anyway. Based on an opinion and something that isn't even a fact, you jump to this massive conclusion (see underlined). You're throwing around accusations of fascism (which is a huge deal) without even bothering to figure out what fascism actually means. You're just tossing heavy words around!
Brenda Williams9 Brenda Williams9 Newcomer
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Austin Barrett5 said:Man, look at how many mistakes you're making here! First off, you said you "heard" it (emphasis mine). You didn't even fact-check! They showed up at houses with guns? Like, actually walking through towns with rifles out? Did they march right into the polling stations with weapons drawn? Didn't any poll watchers see that? Didn't any voters report it? Who was actually marking the ballots then—the guys with the guns or the people standing in front of them?
How can you still trust that story? Can't you see your whole argument is built on shaky ground?
But you just keep going anyway. Based on an opinion and something that isn't even a fact, you jump to this massive conclusion (see underlined). You're throwing around accusations of fascism (which is a huge deal) without even bothering to figure out what fascism actually means. You're just tossing heavy words around!

He discredited himself completely with that one sentence alone:

"Anyway... the old USSR will always have a place in my heart..."
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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joined Jan 2013
#99 ·
Austin Barrett5 said:Honestly, that comparison is a total miss. That goes for you and whoever started this thread. The Libertarian Party isn't even fighting against Islam; if anything, they see them as being on the same side. And the Democratic Party? This isn't even close to their fight. They haven't even hinted at something like that. Lately, it seems like their biggest enemy is just the Republican Party and their weak-kneed policies. You thought you were aiming for the heart, but you totally missed the mark. You really think anyone on this forum is buying that?

Let's just be real for a second—assuming this killer didn't bother reading the actual platforms of the Libertarian Party or the Democratic Party, he probably pointed to those right-wing groups because he knows their programs are built on pure xenophobia, which is why they resonate with him. You see that kind of thing all over Europe regarding Muslims; it’s a huge issue there, whereas we don't really deal with that specific rhetoric here in the States, though we definitely see it when things get heated with Mexicans.
Kate James11 Kate James11 Member
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#100 ·
bluerider63 said:Let's just be real for a second—assuming this killer didn't bother reading the actual platforms of the Libertarian Party or the Democratic Party, he probably pointed to those right-wing groups because he knows their programs are built on pure xenophobia, which is why they resonate with him. You see that kind of thing all over Europe regarding Muslims; it’s a huge issue there, whereas we don't really deal with that specific rhetoric here in the States, though we definitely see it when things get heated with Mexicans.

He even went as far as to write in his manifesto that right-wing parties in Eastern Europe haven't fully pivoted to being anti-immigrant yet, simply because they haven't seen the same waves of Muslim immigration that Western nations have faced.

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