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The Norwegian monster was counting on the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party!!!!

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Participants Richard Wilson4darksurfer4Andrew Chase31Joseph Peterson6Ryan Ward2Eric Collins5silentmaker78David Moore4Noah Johnson7Kate James11Sarah Nelson5Megan Ruiz13silvergull45shadowhawk31shadowotter142gentlestag3Daniel Bailey39bluecobra27Nancy Edwards61Austin Barrett5casuallynx8bluerider63steelfox2Megan Hernandez2 …
bluerider63 bluerider63 Regular
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joined Jan 2013
#61 ·
David Moore4 said:Let's be honest... who among us actually gives a damn about any of these political parties over in Europe?
It's clearly not "the way we do things here"... the arguments laid out prove perfectly that this simply doesn't hold water...

Look, all you really did was claim the Libertarian Party is basically Adolf Hitler, and honestly, the issues we were dealing with back in '41 weren't even remotely similar to what we're facing today.
David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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joined Jul 2011
#62 ·
bluerider63 said:Look, all you really did was claim the Libertarian Party is basically Adolf Hitler, and honestly, the issues we were dealing with back in '41 weren't even remotely similar to what we're facing today.

At the end of the day, the Libertarian Party's platform is built on Starčević's and Adolf Hitler's ideologies.
Setting aside Adolf Hitler's fascism toward Mexicans—which wouldn't have even happened if it wasn't for Nazism in Germany and a whole mess of other circumstances, though that's a massive, complicated subject...

It was nice of Daniel Mexican to mention that the Libertarian Party doesn't have an issue with Muslims and that they've always pushed for the unity of the American and Muslim people, who are essentially one nation, but again, that's just another incredibly complex topic.

The US doesn't really face any major issues regarding Muslims right now, or maybe it does and I'm just clueless... feel free to enlighten me 🙂
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#63 ·
It makes perfect sense that a Norwegian far-right extremist and mass murderer would back and praise the Democratic Party—given it’s led by a war criminal—as well as the Libertarian Party, since they’ve always been cozy with any form of fascism, regardless of religion.

The Libertarian Party and the Democratic Party are right where they belong in a society like this.
Nancy Edwards61 Nancy Edwards61 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2011
#64 ·
bluerider63 said:Look, all you really did was claim the Libertarian Party is basically Adolf Hitler, and honestly, the issues we were dealing with back in '41 weren't even remotely similar to what we're facing today.

At the risk of getting banned, I'm going ad hominem here.
You are a walking disaster, a collection of every unpleasant trait imaginable.
You don't even know who lives next door to you. You’re likely still being coddled by an anxious mother who’s legitimately worried about your future.
You seem terrified of women; honestly, you probably haven't had any real contact with one since you were in diapers.
You’re unkempt and disheveled—I can practically smell the seven layers of dirty laundry sitting under your desk from here.
You don't even know what the weather is like right now in Cleveland, yet you're obsessed with talking about 1941.
Snap out of it. Go shave, grab a bite to eat, head down to the Boardwalk, order a macchiato, and just sit there for a minute to actually observe the world.
David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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joined Jul 2011
#65 ·
briskpuma23 said:It makes perfect sense that a Norwegian far-right extremist and mass murderer would back and praise the Democratic Party—given it’s led by a war criminal—as well as the Libertarian Party, since they’ve always been cozy with any form of fascism, regardless of religion.

The Libertarian Party and the Democratic Party are right where they belong in a society like this.

Go ahead then... try to argue how every single type of fascism is beloved by the Libertarian Party...
I am 99% certain you don't have one single decent argument to defend even one living member of that party!
This way, I can just talk absolute trash about your (I assume) Democratic Party and their cohorts, and tell them, sure, screw their Bolshevik dictatorship, those stinking communists!

This kind of mindless crap makes absolutely no sense...
Nancy Edwards61 Nancy Edwards61 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2011
#66 ·
briskpuma23 said:It makes perfect sense that a Norwegian far-right extremist and mass murderer would back and praise the Democratic Party—given it’s led by a war criminal—as well as the Libertarian Party, since they’ve always been cozy with any form of fascism, regardless of religion.

The Libertarian Party and the Democratic Party are right where they belong in a society like this.

I guess it's perfectly fine for people to talk absolute trash on here.
There isn't a chance in hell I'd ever join either of those two parties you just mentioned.
But now I have to wonder: Are you actually insane, or just deeply corrupted and brainwashed? Honestly, what is wrong with you?
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#67 ·
Guys, why all the anger? I think the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party were mentioned in the right context, even if you disagree. What's with the fury? You acting like you're about to show up with machine guns or something.
David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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#68 ·
briskpuma23 said:Guys, why all the anger? I think the Libertarian Party and the Republican Party were mentioned in the right context, even if you disagree. What's with the fury? You acting like you're about to show up with machine guns or something.

There’s no anger here, just a clear demonstration of how ignorant and unprepared you are for this discussion.
You can't just claim a political party embraces every form of fascism and then act like that's your objective opinion.
If you actually have the guts to throw accusations like that at people, then bring some actual arguments to the table... because right now, all you're doing is—forgive my language—talking out of your ass.

p.s. My apologies to the moderators for the harsh language; I truly hope this post isn't deleted, as it's vital that everyone sees how briskpuma23 makes these notorious accusations without providing a single shred of evidence.
mistygull16 mistygull16 Active Member
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#69 ·
Andrew Chase31 said:It just shows how "principled" we are as a people—only looking inward and refusing to meddle or even acknowledge what anyone else is doing. Sure, there are trends in other countries we could definitely learn from, which is a downside, but this total lack of interest from the American right (which is pretty much the mainstream here) regarding global affairs really highlights the true nature of our people.

You hit the nail on the head there! 👍
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
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#70 ·
The Libertarian Party—a group that couldn't even manage basic logistics—was calling for the return of Ante Pavelić and glorifying fascists. You’re really asking for proof that they were fond of fascism?

It’s just stupid.

Ultimately, the only thing that actually matters here is that the right-wing monster from Norway was counting on the Democratic Party and the Libertarian Party.
Arthur Fowler83 Arthur Fowler83 Member
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#71 ·
briskpuma23 said:The Libertarian Party—a group that couldn't even manage basic logistics—was calling for the return of Ante Pavelić and glorifying fascists. You’re really asking for proof that they were fond of fascism?

It’s just stupid.

Ultimately, the only thing that actually matters here is that the right-wing monster from Norway was counting on the Democratic Party and the Libertarian Party.

I can go online and find a list of every right-wing party in Europe if I really wanted to. I could just make up some manifesto and write them all down myself. Big deal... ☕
Arthur Fowler83 Arthur Fowler83 Member
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joined May 2014
#72 ·
Basically, he was looking for any kind of far-right party in Europe, and since we don't really have those here, he just listed standard right-wing groups like the Libertarian Party and the Democratic Party.
Any idiot could have done that. I don't see why anyone would bother mentioning it...

I actually do see the point. Our local rag was basically handed a mission to smear every single right-wing party by grouping them all together with that sick individual.
Kate James11 Kate James11 Member
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joined Jun 2010
#73 ·
Arthur Fowler83 said:Basically, he was looking for any kind of far-right party in Europe, and since we don't really have those here, he just listed standard right-wing groups like the Libertarian Party and the Democratic Party.
Any idiot could have done that. I don't see why anyone would bother mentioning it...

I actually do see the point. Our local rag was basically handed a mission to smear every single right-wing party by grouping them all together with that sick individual.

The Republican Party is right-wing, while the Libertarian Party and the Democratic Party are far-right.☕
David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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joined Jul 2011
#74 ·
briskpuma23 said:The Libertarian Party—a group that couldn't even manage basic logistics—was calling for the return of Ante Pavelić and glorifying fascists. You’re really asking for proof that they were fond of fascism?

It’s just stupid.

Ultimately, the only thing that actually matters here is that the right-wing monster from Norway was counting on the Democratic Party and the Libertarian Party.

Let’s get one thing straight.
The ideology in question was established back in 1929, and these are its core tenets...
http://domoljub.jimdo.com/domoljubi-...meljna-načela/

What happened later, specifically in '41, isn't what the Libertarian Party considers desirable or adheres to.
The fascists during WWII were American soldiers fighting for independence, given the circumstances of the time.
Only a tiny fraction of those individuals were involved in Auschwitz or the camps committing atrocities.

Furthermore, I suppose the Democratic Party and the Liberal Party "glorify" the partisans, right?
The partisans committed even greater crimes during and after WWII than the fascists did, but it’s never talked about because, as we all know, the winners write the history books.

For your info on that monster, Arthur Fowler83 explained it perfectly enough.
Arthur Fowler83 Arthur Fowler83 Member
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#75 ·
Kate James11 said:The Republican Party is right-wing, while the Libertarian Party and the Democratic Party are far-right.☕

Since when was that the case?
Eric Collins5 Eric Collins5 Active Member
91 messages
joined Mar 2013
#76 ·
Arthur Fowler83 said:Since when was that the case?

Ever since those old-school Republican Party folks in small towns used to show up at people's front doors with rifles in hand, practically forcing them to vote their way (or so I’ve heard through the grapevine, and frankly, I believe it).

😳

That doesn't just make them right-wing; it makes them straight-up fascist right-wingers.

And as for the Democratic Party, well, ever since their founder was busy cooking up acid cocktails.
That doesn't even just make them fascistic; it makes the very founders of the party nothing more than criminals.

😳
David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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#77 ·
Kate James11 said:The Republican Party is right-wing, while the Libertarian Party and the Democratic Party are far-right.☕

🤣

The Republican Party is nothing more than a complete joke of a party today... they don't actually stand for any real political principles. Every single one of their major policy moves is just a calculated, desperate attempt to grab as many votes as possible before the next election cycle...

If the Libertarian Party and the Democratic Party were actually far-right organizations, their entire history and track record over these last twenty years of American independence would look a lot like the sick, twisted ideologies of Oslo... but that’s just not the case.
David Moore4 David Moore4 Member
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#78 ·
Eric Collins5 said:Ever since those old-school Republican Party folks in small towns used to show up at people's front doors with rifles in hand, practically forcing them to vote their way (or so I’ve heard through the grapevine, and frankly, I believe it).

😳

That doesn't just make them right-wing; it makes them straight-up fascist right-wingers.

And as for the Democratic Party, well, ever since their founder was busy cooking up acid cocktails.
That doesn't even just make them fascistic; it makes the very founders of the party nothing more than criminals.

😳

I heard that Joe Biden is actually a creature made from Stalin's DNA, and once he takes power, he'll be throwing everyone into Alcatraz!
Naturally, I believe that 🤣
...
Eric Collins5 Eric Collins5 Active Member
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joined Mar 2013
#79 ·
David Moore4 said:I heard that Joe Biden is actually a creature made from Stalin's DNA, and once he takes power, he'll be throwing everyone into Alcatraz!
Naturally, I believe that 🤣
...

There isn't any evidence proving that isn't the case.

😳

Naturally, I'm going to be incredibly selective about what I believe when it comes to people I disagree with. Honestly, that's pretty much how this entire forum operates.

😳
Arthur Fowler83 Arthur Fowler83 Member
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joined May 2014
#80 ·
Just so there isn’t any confusion, I feel obligated to point out once again that the Republican Party is essentially just a group of opportunistic thieves functioning as a left-wing entity, whereas the Libertarian Party and the Democratic Party could be considered right-wing parties. (Though with the Libertarian Party, that label tends to shift, just never toward the right rather than the left)

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