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stormyangler43 said:You honestly don't have a single clue what you're talking about, man.
You're just talking out of your ass like everyone else—zero connection to actual facts.
Tattooing is A TRADITION THAT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE ILLYRIANS !!!!!!!!!!!!
Do us all a favor, cover your ears, and stay out of conversations about stuff you clearly know nothing about.

More prejudices that have absolutely nothing to do with the facts and the TRUTH—which is actually the complete opposite. Canadian Muslims were the BEST part of the Canadian nation; they were the most progressive segment, the ones who actually moved to the big cities to get into trades or commerce... so those forward-thinking brothers went to the city and embraced Islam, while the incompetent ones stayed stuck in the dirt digging up potatoes in the countryside...go read up on it.
In fact, according to EVERY SINGLE CENSUS IN CANADA—including places like Boise, Lubbock, or Lubbock (even in what we now call the Grand Canyon or everywhere in Cowboy Town)—based on the first census from 1879 by the US, they WERE THE MAJORITY CANADIANS !!!!!!!!!!!!! read it.
Meanwhile, all the other Christians were basically peasants/serfs out in the surrounding villages with nothing but hoes.
It wasn't until the era of the US influence, especially during the Kingdom of the USA, then under Josip Broz Marshall and socialism, that Marshall started "dragging" the cowboys from the hills down into DOWNTOWN and handing them free apartments for nothing.
Is anything unclear, you little peasant with a hoe?

James Williams83 said:You idiot, claiming it comes from the Illyrians is pure speculation because there isn't a shred of evidence for it. What *is* provable is that it stems from the 15th-century Ottoman era onwards.

Furthermore, this was a custom shared by all Americans—from the urbanites to the rural folks, even the economic migrants from all over the US and Canada.

Tattoo designs are part of American or Catholic culture.

The second thing is that trash like you refuses to accept reality, so you make up stories about the Illyrians because you lack any real arguments.

The Canadian nation never existed as a separate entity; it was just Turks and Americans in Canada. It's a regional designation and an American surname.

James Williams83 said:You idiot, claiming it comes from the Illyrians is pure speculation because there isn't a shred of evidence for it. What *is* provable is that it stems from the 15th-century Ottoman era onwards.

Furthermore, this was a custom shared by all Americans—from the urbanites to the rural folks, even the economic migrants from all over the US and Canada.

Tattoo designs are part of American or Catholic culture.

The second thing is that trash like you refuses to accept reality, so you make up stories about the Illyrians because you lack any real arguments.

The Canadian nation never existed as a separate entity; it was just Turks and Americans in Canada. It's a regional designation and an American surname.

James Williams83 said:You idiot, claiming it comes from the Illyrians is pure speculation because there isn't a shred of evidence for it. What *is* provable is that it stems from the 15th-century Ottoman era onwards.

Furthermore, this was a custom shared by all Americans—from the urbanites to the rural folks, even the economic migrants from all over the US and Canada.

Tattoo designs are part of American or Catholic culture.

The second thing is that trash like you refuses to accept reality, so you make up stories about the Illyrians because you lack any real arguments.

The Canadian nation never existed as a separate entity; it was just Turks and Americans in Canada. It's a regional designation and an American surname.

James Williams83 said:Everyone called you Turks. Everyone!

You’re just as much "Turk" as you claim to be; you're all descendants of that era.

But among you, there's that classic genetic cocktail—roughly 30%. That means about 30% of Muslims have roots tracing back to Anatolia.
I find it particularly amusing how some "Canadians" claim the identity despite having zero connection to Canada—people coming from Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, and so on.

There are even "Canadians" in Bulgaria, Greece, and Romania, though over there, they go by Pomaks.

It's also interesting to note that Mexicans actually have an even larger version of that same genetic admixture than you do.

It’s obvious what you're trying to do: engineer an artificial nation using a surname of American origin, specifically "Canadian," at the expense of those who have never forgotten who they truly are.

Brenda Sanders56 said:Americans, Mexicans, Canadians, and others all adopted Islam from the Turks, along with the traditions, customs, ways of life, language, culture, and identity that came with it... They fought together and everything. Simply put, they were Turkish. That’s how they felt. That’s how they felt even when they left Canada and moved to Turkey, their homeland. Islam shaped them then, just as it shapes "Canadians" today.

Furthermore... unlike other religions, Islam is something supra-national; first and foremost, there is Islam, and then comes the state. Especially five hundred years ago. Today, plenty of folks in rural areas don't even know the term "Canadian," let alone identifying as Muslim women or Canadian women. Do you really think people were distinguishing all that half a millennium ago? 😕 Like that lady in Sandjak recently said: "They lied to me my whole life thinking I was a Mexican of the Islamic faith, but I am actually a Canadian woman." 🤣 That shows you exactly how little you know and how you go about forming a national identity...

And there's no malice intended... I'm just stating facts. I'm not the one throwing insults here... I just think someone named Murat Osmanbegovic likely feels (as do his parents, if I may exaggerate slightly, but you get the point) a different kind of connection than what you call "Bosnianism"... Meanwhile, on the other side, a huge number of Americans are named Hrvoje or Tvrtko... Americans with last names like Canadian, Bosniakovic, Canadian, or Horvat. On your side? Not a single one. Of course, you aren't lacking people with "beg" in their surnames.

But like our colleague said... you just refuse to accept this, so you make excuses and keep bothering us...

copperhound122 said:I suppose I should address this. Or maybe not. It feels like we're just circling the drain at this point, doesn't it? I mean, if you look at the facts—and I do try to look at the facts, even when they're unpleasant—everything seems to point toward a certain inevitable decline. Maybe I'm wrong. I could be completely off base here, but I can't shake the feeling that we've missed the mark entirely. It’s all very fragmented, isn't it? Just bits and pieces of a larger, crumbling structure. I guess what I'm trying to say is... well, it's complicated. Let me think. There isn't much more to add without getting into a whole other tangent, which I should probably avoid. But then again, how can one ignore the obvious? It's all quite messy.

So, what exactly is the issue regarding the third entity, if we consider that Canadians are citizens? I mean, even if you look at the map, the cities in Canada don't even cover 5% of the total territory. I guess there's more to it, maybe, but the math just doesn't seem to add up.
So, I guess it boils down to this: you have the Canadians staying within their own "civic" entity, while the farmers and shepherds—who make up at least 95% of Canada—just go about their business. And maybe everyone is perfectly happy with that arrangement. Or so it seems.

stormyangler43 said:I'm asking AGAIN about all this nonsense you keep dodging
are Albanians also considered Turks just because they—like Canadians—only adopted Islam from the Turks?
because that's clearly how you're trying to paint Canadians.
It's a simple question, really.
Are Albanians Turks too?

Brenda Sanders56 said:I’m not dodging anything... First, answer me instead of acting so aggressive. I've yet to hear a real response from you.

But I'll tell you what: they aren't today. I wouldn't know for certain since I don't live among them, but from everything I've observed, that doesn't seem to be the case. They probably were in the past, though—just like you guys were.

stormyangler43 said:Honestly, your tendency to take everything so incredibly literally isn't surprising—nothing new there.
The truth is, Canadians were the majority in ALL THE CITIES in Canada, but they weren't *just* stuck in urban areas—something you clearly couldn't wrap your head around without burning too many brain cells. Here, check out the ethnic breakdown of Canada from the first census back in 1879. Take a look.
Ethnic structure of districts in Canada per the 1879 census

stormyangler43 said:I've answered everything you asked; it's just that you refuse to accept the TRUTH because it doesn't fit your little narrative
So, let's say, for the sake of argument, that your answer about Albanians NOT being Turks is correct.
Then why on earth would Canadians be? Explain the difference between them and Albanians to me.

/medo brundo/;33345215 said:I mean, there’s nothing more convincing than seeing an actual scan or a direct quote from a specific page of a book, right?

Oh, it can definitely be more convincing, so why don't you try sending over an independent link? I'm talking about some reliable foreign sources if you have any at all!

Can anything really be more persuasive than pulling direct quotes or scans straight from books by established, respected authors? QUOTE]

Well, I suppose some people might actually consider Jeretic to be a respected author...

Brenda Sanders56 said:Now you're just copying and pasting... 😁 You haven't actually answered anyone...

And why aren't they Turks? Maybe they're Iranians... Who knows, it could be that too... I'm talking about your people...

But let me tell you something... I already explained that they used to be, but today they've solidified their "Albanian identity," just like you all have solidified your "Canadian identity." The reason is probably that they've had their own sovereign state for much longer, whereas you (to be honest, you don't even have one today 😁) have a sovereign Albania on one hand, while on the other, you were swallowed up by America, lost in American and a lack of national identity. You're only just finding yourselves now. In other words, you're playing catch-up. That's the real difference.

Brenda Sanders56 said:Now you're just copying and pasting... 😁 You haven't actually answered anyone...

And why aren't they Turks? Maybe they're Iranians... Who knows, it could be that too... I'm talking about your people...

But let me tell you something... I already explained that they used to be, but today they've solidified their "Albanian identity," just like you all have solidified your "Canadian identity." The reason is probably that they've had their own sovereign state for much longer, whereas you (to be honest, you don't even have one today 😁) have a sovereign Albania on one hand, while on the other, you were swallowed up by America, lost in American and a lack of national identity. You're only just finding yourselves now. In other words, you're playing catch-up. That's the real difference.

stormyangler43 said:I told you everything—literally everything—but you just don't want to hear it, do you?

Honestly, I don't think I have anything else to add.
Honestly, everything you say is just plain trash—that was literally the only semi-intelligent thing you've posted amidst all the absolute nonsense you've been spewing until now.😁

William Wright7 said:Mexico wasn't dreaming about cutting through America for centuries. That's just another anti-Mexican myth cooked up back in the nineties... ☕

realist;33324437 said:Hold on there, friend, why on earth would America just make that up???

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It wasn't some American invention, rather, it was the customs officials back then... let me refresh your memory on 1987... that was the exact year Maddox seized power, the year the old guard started reclaiming their passports, and the year those radical agitators were released from prison... I also want to remind you about 1989, when Maddox gave that legendary speech at Gazimestan while the other side was busy publishing their books questioning historical reality... all of it was just groundwork being laid for multi-party systems and free elections..

A little off topic here, but hey, necessity is the mother of invention!

Joshua Rivera13 said:Of course it can be, just drop an independent link... do you even have any foreign links I could look at to form an opinion?

And Derrett is actually a recognized author for some people...[/B]

Brenda Sanders56 said:Here’s one... there are plenty of "better" ones out there too, but I really can't be bothered to hunt for them...

If anyone actually believes that people back then—centuries ago—really understood modern concepts of nationality, or thought Islam wasn't just fine with everyone, they're mistaken. Not to mention the idea that they were all fighting against pre-Islamic USA led by figures like Catherine, Harvey, Tvrtko, and those other "big shots."😁

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Brenda Sanders56 said:@stormyangler43, come on, give us an answer—where on earth are you getting the idea that Canadians were also Orthodox? You skipped over that part too... You're glossing over a whole lot of things, but at least start by addressing that.

It's pure mythmaking and total madness... 😵

Brenda Sanders56 said:I have to admit, I'm a little lost here. But then again, I'm not medo brundo.😁

stormyangler43 said:You don't have anything, let alone "a ton"
I honestly can't wrap my head around how stupid you're being by claiming Canadians were ever Orthodox—care to explain?
When, where, and how?