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silvereagle6 silvereagle6 Member
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#101 ·
wearyhawk83 said:Look, love isn't about the person receiving it; it’s all about the way it's given.

Well, you aren't Jesus Christ—you can't just exist solely by pouring love out into the world without taking anything back.
Even Jesus had a mother who loved him.
Michael Anderson2 Michael Anderson2 Active Member
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#102 ·
silvereagle6 said:Well, you aren't Jesus Christ—you can't just exist solely by pouring love out into the world without taking anything back.
Even Jesus had a mother who loved him.

He had a Father, after all...
silvereagle6 silvereagle6 Member
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#103 ·
Michael Anderson2 said:He had a Father, after all...

Man.😁 Yeah, you're not wrong there.
boldsailor32 boldsailor32 Active Member
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#104 ·
silvereagle6 said:Well, you aren't Jesus Christ—you can't just exist solely by pouring love out into the world without taking anything back.
Even Jesus had a mother who loved him.

He also had a very powerful Father whose plan he followed, fulfilling the mission assigned to him... 😉
Michael Anderson2 Michael Anderson2 Active Member
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#105 ·
boldsailor32 said:He also had a very powerful Father whose plan he followed, fulfilling the mission assigned to him... 😉

Honestly, his old man is a heavyweight player—a total powerhouse if he actually felt like stepping up—he could have woken us all up right then and there. But nope, he only bothered to wake the son. Talk about high-level nepotism...😁
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#106 ·
boldsailor32 said:He also had a very powerful Father whose plan he followed, fulfilling the mission assigned to him... 😉

and because of that, he managed to scrape together 😲...
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
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#107 ·
wearyhawk83 said:Look, love isn't about the person receiving it; it’s all about the way it's given.

silvereagle6 was talking about asocial individuals, which raises the question: what exactly does an asocial person have to offer, and to whom?😁 If we go by the literal definition, the actions and intentions of such a person are directed against their own environment and its social norms. Consequently, they stifle their own ability to grow within that community—referring back to her point about humans being inherently social creatures who can only truly find fulfillment through social interaction.

In that case, we call someone asocial because their behavior and internal motivations work against the well-being of those around them, making them socially maladapted. (And certainly, quite dangerous.).
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
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#108 ·
wearyowl29 said:and because of that, he managed to scrape together 😲...

How could he have "amassed" anything if, as the Witch claims, he was simply following a pre-ordained plan he was already part of? Come on, don't talk nonsense here. lol.
silvereagle6 silvereagle6 Member
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#109 ·
Susan Price30 said:silvereagle6 was talking about asocial individuals, which raises the question: what exactly does an asocial person have to offer, and to whom?😁 If we go by the literal definition, the actions and intentions of such a person are directed against their own environment and its social norms. Consequently, they stifle their own ability to grow within that community—referring back to her point about humans being inherently social creatures who can only truly find fulfillment through social interaction.

In that case, we call someone asocial because their behavior and internal motivations work against the well-being of those around them, making them socially maladapted. (And certainly, quite dangerous.).

That was a beautiful way to explain it—you hit the nail right on the head regarding what I was getting at, even though my own description was much more brief. 🙂
hiddentrucker16 hiddentrucker16 Active Member
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#110 ·
Susan Price30 As stated by:
silvereagle6 was making some points about antisocial individuals—essentially, what exactly does such a person have to offer, and more importantly, who are they actually offering it to? 😁 If we look strictly at the definition of the word—the actual essence of what "action" entails—it follows that the very intent behind such a person's conduct is inherently directed... Against. It really comes down to the environment—that stifling atmosphere where one is forced to live in direct opposition to the local social norms and established customs. It’s a heavy thing, truly. When you find yourself at odds with the very fabric of your surroundings, it effectively stunts any hope for healthy growth or personal development. It creates this sort of... existential friction. I suppose I am circling back to what she mentioned earlier regarding our nature—that humans are, at their core, fundamentally social creatures. We aren't meant to be islands; we can only truly realize our potential through meaningful engagement within a community. If that community is hostile to who you actually are, you're essentially being denied the tools to flourish.

So, what we’re really saying is that the individual in question is antisocial—if you want to be precise about it. Or perhaps just socially detached—though "antisocial" certainly carries more weight in a casual conversation, doesn't it? It’s one of those terms we toss around quite easily—sometimes too easily, I suppose—to describe someone who simply lacks that fundamental drive to engage with the collective. One might even argue it's less about being actively hostile toward society and more about a profound, almost quiet, indifference to it. Still, the label sticks. Through their conduct—and that underlying, rather questionable internal drive—they act in direct opposition to the well-being of those around them; it is, quite frankly, a display of profound social inadequacy. ( And quite dangerous, too—if I do say so myself..

Oh, goodness... honestly.😢😢

What an absolutely dreadful definition.🙂🙂I certainly hope—and I do mean this with the utmost sincerity—that you generally tend to rely on your own insights and convictions when navigating life.😍

The unsociable types—those who prefer their own company to the mindless chatter of the crowd—are actually quite brilliant. It’s a quiet kind of genius, really. 🙂
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#111 ·
boldsailor32 said:He also had a very powerful Father whose plan he followed, fulfilling the mission assigned to him... 😉

If it weren't for some earthly soul providing for him—someone who probably spent his days sawing lumber and building beds, wardrobes, tables, and chairs—that Father would have seen his son die of starvation.
Jesus could have lived off sunlight alone, but people would have just branded him a Satanist. 😍

Tyler Baker6 said:😁
A massive shift is right around the corner. And I'm not just talking about the planet, the government, or even time itself,
but the entire economy too. You've been summoned. It's time to wake up!🙂

Well, I’m certainly "waking up" right now—sipping on a hot double espresso, no sugar. Once I'm done, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to say a few prayers, much like my late grandmother used to do. She was an early riser, up at 5:00 AM sharp, which gave her plenty of time before 8:00. My situation is a bit different; I actually have to go to work, and I am definitely not a 5:00 AM person. This whole idea of "awakening the authorities" isn't all it's cracked up to be. There are protests happening outside my window as we speak, but honestly, I don't see them changing much. Maybe if we all headed over to the Shepherd's? All in all, I'm not seeing much movement on this "great awakening" everyone keeps talking about.
silverfalcon952 silverfalcon952 NewcomerOP
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#112 ·
Where the hell did my thread go?
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#113 ·
unknown Asks:
Before I passed away, I wrote something inspired by the thoughts of an unknown individual: "There is no saving a tiger that has already decided to die." It’s a hard truth, but it's true—you simply cannot help someone who has no desire to be helped. It’s a two-way street, you see? Anything else—forcing your assistance on someone who hasn't asked for it—is nothing more than a form of violence. It's reckless, frankly, and quite indifferent to the person's own will.

😲
What even is that? God, waking up is just... it’s a struggle. Every single morning, it feels like a personal battle against my own existence. You lie there, staring at the ceiling, wondering why we even bother getting out of bed in the first place—it’s exhausting before the day has even truly begun. If a man spends his entire life immersed in Zen Buddhism—devoting every waking hour to meditation and deep contemplation—and yet, in the end, he’s powerless to stop his own son from taking his own life... well, that's a heavy thing to sit with. It makes you wonder about the limits of all that spiritual practice, doesn't it?
Honestly, if he could just find his son a decent partner—someone who actually keeps things interesting—maybe the kid would be too busy focusing on life instead of obsessing over death. It’s all about redirection, really. Focus on the physical, focus on living... it beats wallowing in that dark headspace.
Am I exaggerating? Not even a little bit. My friend is living proof of that—just look at his situation: I was reading through some old discussions recently—you know how I get, once I start digging into these philosophical rabbit holes, it’s hard to stop—and I kept coming back to this idea of spiritual progress versus the sheer, noisy chaos of modern life. It’s funny, isn't it? We spend our whole lives trying to find some semblance of peace, yet we build these massive, loud systems that practically scream at us to stay distracted. There’s this specific thread where Benjamin Taylor6 was making points about the necessity of deep focus, and honestly, I think he hit a nerve there. He was talking about how most people just skim the surface of existence—they touch the water and then run away because they’re afraid of getting wet. But if you want actual growth, you have to dive in. You can't just dabble in Zen Buddhism or try a bit of Transcendental Meditation TM on a Sunday morning and expect to become a saint by Monday. It requires a level of discipline that most Americans, frankly, seem to have lost somewhere between the invention of the smartphone and the endless stream of junk food. I remember sitting in a coffee shop in Chicago a few years back—just one of those rainy Tuesday afternoons where everything feels a bit heavy—and watching people pass by. Everyone was glued to their screens, eyes darting, hearts racing, totally disconnected from the person sitting right next to them. It felt like we were all living in this frantic, shallow bubble. It reminded me of what Thomas Davis6 was saying about the superficiality of modern "enlightenment" seekers. People want the results without the work. They want the feeling of being connected to God without actually having to sit in silence and face their own messy, complicated selves. It’s easy to talk about grace, but acting with grace when someone cuts you off in traffic on the I-95? That’s the real test. That’s where the rubber meets the road. We preach these high-minded ideals, but the moment things get inconvenient, we revert to our primal, agitated states. We need more than just slogans. We need a fundamental shift in how we approach our inner lives. If we don't learn to quiet the noise, we're just going to keep spinning our wheels, chasing shadows while the real substance of life passes us by. It’s frustrating, really—watching everyone rush toward nothingness with such incredible speed.
Look, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again—everyone wants to credit their spiritual awakening to some lofty, sanctified practice like prayer, deep meditation, or endless contemplation... but honestly? For me, it wasn't some quiet moment of Zen Buddhism or sitting cross-legged in a temple. It was far more primal than that. In my case, the whole thing was triggered by the vagina. There—I said it. While everyone else is out there chasing enlightenment through rituals or staring at the ceiling waiting for a sign from God, I found my truth through something much more visceral and grounded in the body. It sounds scandalous to the pearl-clutchers, I know, but let them keep their incense and their chanting; I'll stick to the reality of how it actually happened. 😍
silverfalcon952 said:Where the hell did my thread go?

Look, regarding what was written up there—honestly!
wearyhawk83 wearyhawk83 Active Member
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#114 ·
silvereagle6 said:Well, you aren't Jesus Christ—you can't just exist solely by pouring love out into the world without taking anything back.
Even Jesus had a mother who loved him.

This isn't actually about me or Jesus—it's about something way wiser and much purer than both of us.

Susan Price30 said:silvereagle6 was talking about asocial individuals, which raises the question: what exactly does an asocial person have to offer, and to whom?😁 If we go by the literal definition, the actions and intentions of such a person are directed against their own environment and its social norms. Consequently, they stifle their own ability to grow within that community—referring back to her point about humans being inherently social creatures who can only truly find fulfillment through social interaction.

In that case, we call someone asocial because their behavior and internal motivations work against the well-being of those around them, making them socially maladapted. (And certainly, quite dangerous.).

By definition, an asocial person isn't necessarily acting against the well-being of society.
Thomas Davis6 Thomas Davis6 Member
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#115 ·
silverfalcon952 said:Hey everyone! Just wondering—how many of you are actually ready to roll up your sleeves and put in the work to heal your soul? Also, can you even tell when the people around you are struggling with their own internal mess, and if so, how are you stepping up to help them out?🙂

Hey there...

Hmm... first off, you might want to clarify what you actually mean by a "sick soul." I'm guessing you aren't talking about clinical mental health issues that a psychiatrist would deal with, right?

When it comes to measuring what makes a soul "healthy" versus "sick" from a spiritual standpoint, I guess it all boils down to personal perception. It feels pretty subjective to me. I don't really see it as some objective standard that every single person following a specific faith or spiritual practice has to hit. It’s more of an individual thing, I suppose.

When are people finally gonna realize that there’s no such thing as one universal truth or a single way to see things?

The soul exists, I guess, just as it is. But if you’re actually looking to undergo some kind of transformation there, you first have to dive into those dark depths. You have to accept whatever is lurking down there as your own, without any fear or trying to push it away.
We’re just one big messy whole—light and dark, good and evil, all of it. We are exactly who we are, I guess.
When we try to strip away our darker side, I guess we’re basically just sterilizing ourselves. That part of us we're so desperate to peel away from our souls? It's actually there for a reason. Maybe it's meant to help us figure out who we really are and actually grow.

By denying that, he’s basically turning us into this sterile, empty vessel. It feels like he's stripping away the very duality that holds the whole world together—so why wouldn't that apply to our souls too? I guess.
I guess if you try to ignore the darker parts of your soul, you're just setting yourself up for an illusion. You end up lying to yourself. That’s why I don't really buy into the whole idea of having a "sick" or "healthy" soul. It just doesn't work like that.
Everyone chooses their own path, I guess. It's all about listening to your gut, but maybe our modern way of life just makes it harder to hear anything at all.
Religious leaders are always hanging around, trying to lecture everyone on how to reach "enlightenment." You’ve got guys like Benedict or that guy Homeini, just peddling the same old nonsense. Honestly, I guess all they really achieve is spreading stupidity and selling people a bunch of illusions. It's basically just selling smoke.
Waking up really just means finally seeing things for what they are and choosing your own path. I guess.
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#116 ·
Thomas Davis6 said:Hey there...

Hmm... first off, you might want to clarify what you actually mean by a "sick soul." I'm guessing you aren't talking about clinical mental health issues that a psychiatrist would deal with, right?

When it comes to measuring what makes a soul "healthy" versus "sick" from a spiritual standpoint, I guess it all boils down to personal perception. It feels pretty subjective to me. I don't really see it as some objective standard that every single person following a specific faith or spiritual practice has to hit. It’s more of an individual thing, I suppose.

When are people finally gonna realize that there’s no such thing as one universal truth or a single way to see things?

The soul exists, I guess, just as it is. But if you’re actually looking to undergo some kind of transformation there, you first have to dive into those dark depths. You have to accept whatever is lurking down there as your own, without any fear or trying to push it away.
We’re just one big messy whole—light and dark, good and evil, all of it. We are exactly who we are, I guess.
When we try to strip away our darker side, I guess we’re basically just sterilizing ourselves. That part of us we're so desperate to peel away from our souls? It's actually there for a reason. Maybe it's meant to help us figure out who we really are and actually grow.

By denying that, he’s basically turning us into this sterile, empty vessel. It feels like he's stripping away the very duality that holds the whole world together—so why wouldn't that apply to our souls too? I guess.
I guess if you try to ignore the darker parts of your soul, you're just setting yourself up for an illusion. You end up lying to yourself. That’s why I don't really buy into the whole idea of having a "sick" or "healthy" soul. It just doesn't work like that.
Everyone chooses their own path, I guess. It's all about listening to your gut, but maybe our modern way of life just makes it harder to hear anything at all.
Religious leaders are always hanging around, trying to lecture everyone on how to reach "enlightenment." You’ve got guys like Benedict or that guy Homeini, just peddling the same old nonsense. Honestly, I guess all they really achieve is spreading stupidity and selling people a bunch of illusions. It's basically just selling smoke.
Waking up really just means finally seeing things for what they are and choosing your own path. I guess.


I wrote about spiritual or soulful ailments previously over on the other spirituality board. I won't repeat myself since the core idea is the same:

Well, damn. You really have to watch your language when discussing ideological opponents. You wouldn't want someone accidentally blowing you up because of what you said.
Watch your words, just like my late father used to do:
hiddentrucker16 hiddentrucker16 Active Member
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#117 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:
unknown Asks:
Before I passed away, I wrote something inspired by the thoughts of an unknown individual: "There is no saving a tiger that has already decided to die." It’s a hard truth, but it's true—you simply cannot help someone who has no desire to be helped. It’s a two-way street, you see? Anything else—forcing your assistance on someone who hasn't asked for it—is nothing more than a form of violence. It's reckless, frankly, and quite indifferent to the person's own will.

😲
What even is that? God, waking up is just... it’s a struggle. Every single morning, it feels like a personal battle against my own existence. You lie there, staring at the ceiling, wondering why we even bother getting out of bed in the first place—it’s exhausting before the day has even truly begun. If a man spends his entire life immersed in Zen Buddhism—devoting every waking hour to meditation and deep contemplation—and yet, in the end, he’s powerless to stop his own son from taking his own life... well, that's a heavy thing to sit with. It makes you wonder about the limits of all that spiritual practice, doesn't it?
Honestly, if he could just find his son a decent partner—someone who actually keeps things interesting—maybe the kid would be too busy focusing on life instead of obsessing over death. It’s all about redirection, really. Focus on the physical, focus on living... it beats wallowing in that dark headspace.
Am I exaggerating? Not even a little bit. My friend is living proof of that—just look at his situation: I was reading through some old discussions recently—you know how I get, once I start digging into these philosophical rabbit holes, it’s hard to stop—and I kept coming back to this idea of spiritual progress versus the sheer, noisy chaos of modern life. It’s funny, isn't it? We spend our whole lives trying to find some semblance of peace, yet we build these massive, loud systems that practically scream at us to stay distracted. There’s this specific thread where Benjamin Taylor6 was making points about the necessity of deep focus, and honestly, I think he hit a nerve there. He was talking about how most people just skim the surface of existence—they touch the water and then run away because they’re afraid of getting wet. But if you want actual growth, you have to dive in. You can't just dabble in Zen Buddhism or try a bit of Transcendental Meditation TM on a Sunday morning and expect to become a saint by Monday. It requires a level of discipline that most Americans, frankly, seem to have lost somewhere between the invention of the smartphone and the endless stream of junk food. I remember sitting in a coffee shop in Chicago a few years back—just one of those rainy Tuesday afternoons where everything feels a bit heavy—and watching people pass by. Everyone was glued to their screens, eyes darting, hearts racing, totally disconnected from the person sitting right next to them. It felt like we were all living in this frantic, shallow bubble. It reminded me of what Thomas Davis6 was saying about the superficiality of modern "enlightenment" seekers. People want the results without the work. They want the feeling of being connected to God without actually having to sit in silence and face their own messy, complicated selves. It’s easy to talk about grace, but acting with grace when someone cuts you off in traffic on the I-95? That’s the real test. That’s where the rubber meets the road. We preach these high-minded ideals, but the moment things get inconvenient, we revert to our primal, agitated states. We need more than just slogans. We need a fundamental shift in how we approach our inner lives. If we don't learn to quiet the noise, we're just going to keep spinning our wheels, chasing shadows while the real substance of life passes us by. It’s frustrating, really—watching everyone rush toward nothingness with such incredible speed.
Look, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again—everyone wants to credit their spiritual awakening to some lofty, sanctified practice like prayer, deep meditation, or endless contemplation... but honestly? For me, it wasn't some quiet moment of Zen Buddhism or sitting cross-legged in a temple. It was far more primal than that. In my case, the whole thing was triggered by the vagina. There—I said it. While everyone else is out there chasing enlightenment through rituals or staring at the ceiling waiting for a sign from God, I found my truth through something much more visceral and grounded in the body. It sounds scandalous to the pearl-clutchers, I know, but let them keep their incense and their chanting; I'll stick to the reality of how it actually happened. 😍

Look, regarding what was written up there—honestly!

Well, that is exactly what I asked in the meditation thread, and nobody bothered to answer me.🙄

And this is precisely the sort of response I was hoping for.👋👋👋

It seems human willpower alone isn't enough to become a saint, or even just a good, wise person—you could pray and meditate every single day and still fall short. You need God's Grace and a gift from Heaven; essentially, you need God's plan. Period. And frankly, Heaven is just naturally out of reach for some people—yikes.🙂🙂

And of course, there's the whole "bonus physical satisfaction brings peace to the home" thing—ha, ha, ha.😂😂
Benjamin Taylor6 Benjamin Taylor6 Regular
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#118 ·
hiddentrucker16 said:Well, that is exactly what I asked in the meditation thread, and nobody bothered to answer me.🙄

And this is precisely the sort of response I was hoping for.👋👋👋

It seems human willpower alone isn't enough to become a saint, or even just a good, wise person—you could pray and meditate every single day and still fall short. You need God's Grace and a gift from Heaven; essentially, you need God's plan. Period. And frankly, Heaven is just naturally out of reach for some people—yikes.🙂🙂

And of course, there's the whole "bonus physical satisfaction brings peace to the home" thing—ha, ha, ha.😂😂

It's highly unlikely that you haven't read up on other types of awakening. We're talking about awakening through the TM-siddhi program (which is essentially the highest tier of Transcendental Meditation TM):

Then you have the folks who meditate and end their sessions by literally jumping around: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHwhGUo90jw
hiddentrucker16 hiddentrucker16 Active Member
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#119 ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:It's highly unlikely that you haven't read up on other types of awakening. We're talking about awakening through the TM-siddhi program (which is essentially the highest tier of Transcendental Meditation TM):

Then you have the folks who meditate and end their sessions by literally jumping around: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHwhGUo90jw

Well, I have read about Branimir, Elvis, and Boris—😍...that is, regarding those unfortunate labels used for children with disabilities. Most people recoil from such kids, but if you ask me, I’d much rather spend my time with them than with those who seem physically flawless yet are absolute monsters at heart—honestly, it’s nauseating. My prayer would simply be: God, please keep me far away from people like that.

As for levitation and WORLD PEACE🙏🙏🙏, heh, I wouldn't mind flying myself, but I suppose I shouldn't pester God too much unless it is an absolute necessity or His divine will; besides, if it is already His Grace, then no matter how hard I try, I might just end up hitting my head on something and getting nowhere.🤷

Or perhaps I have misunderstood everything all over again🙄—and now I am being besieged by spiders once more. This one is particularly large, and since I don't have the heart to destroy its little home, I suppose I shall have to attempt to coexist with it again.😲😍, thankfully it is just outside the window, so I won't be forced to dream about it in the middle of the night.😵😵
Michael Anderson2 Michael Anderson2 Active Member
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#120 ·
hiddentrucker16 said:Well, I have read about Branimir, Elvis, and Boris—😍...that is, regarding those unfortunate labels used for children with disabilities. Most people recoil from such kids, but if you ask me, I’d much rather spend my time with them than with those who seem physically flawless yet are absolute monsters at heart—honestly, it’s nauseating. My prayer would simply be: God, please keep me far away from people like that.

As for levitation and WORLD PEACE🙏🙏🙏, heh, I wouldn't mind flying myself, but I suppose I shouldn't pester God too much unless it is an absolute necessity or His divine will; besides, if it is already His Grace, then no matter how hard I try, I might just end up hitting my head on something and getting nowhere.🤷

Or perhaps I have misunderstood everything all over again🙄—and now I am being besieged by spiders once more. This one is particularly large, and since I don't have the heart to destroy its little home, I suppose I shall have to attempt to coexist with it again.😲😍, thankfully it is just outside the window, so I won't be forced to dream about it in the middle of the night.😵😵

😁

A few years back, I had this strange experience while reading in bed. A little bug landed on my book, drawn in by the light. Usually, I would have just snapped the book shut—quick and easy—leaving nothing behind but a tiny two-dimensional imprint on the page...

But this bug was different. It was silky, green, fragile, and so full of life; I could actually see it as a living thing... So, I didn't close the book. It wandered across the page, crawled onto my hand, and then flew away.

Ever since then, I don't kill bugs. 🤷

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