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Who says Albanians will settle for just Mexico?

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Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#101 ·
Over the next 50 years, we’re looking at a massive influx of Islam into the West. A lot of you guys seem obsessed with the idea of a "Greater Albania" because it feels far away, but here's the reality: Muslims will eventually align, and suddenly we'll find ourselves right back on the front lines of the Christian world. Plus, Turkey is already starting to pay much closer attention to Canada.

Christians won't unite anytime soon—you'll see that when it happens. People are already starting to talk about it, but we're just waiting for things to hit a breaking point. Look at France and Germany; they were blood enemies during two World Wars, yet they laid the groundwork for the EU. Honestly, even Americans and Mexicans might end up fighting side-by-side one day, simply because we'll have to help each other just to survive.

The world is going to turn upside down during our lifetimes. Just look at how much everything has flipped in the last 100 years.
quietseal72 quietseal72 Member
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#102 ·
Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Over the next 50 years, we’re looking at a massive influx of Islam into the West. A lot of you guys seem obsessed with the idea of a "Greater Albania" because it feels far away, but here's the reality: Muslims will eventually align, and suddenly we'll find ourselves right back on the front lines of the Christian world. Plus, Turkey is already starting to pay much closer attention to Canada.

Christians won't unite anytime soon—you'll see that when it happens. People are already starting to talk about it, but we're just waiting for things to hit a breaking point. Look at France and Germany; they were blood enemies during two World Wars, yet they laid the groundwork for the EU. Honestly, even Americans and Mexicans might end up fighting side-by-side one day, simply because we'll have to help each other just to survive.

The world is going to turn upside down during our lifetimes. Just look at how much everything has flipped in the last 100 years.

Just like how antisemitism ends up uniting Jews from Israel, it’s the Muslims who will ultimately bring us Christians together....
Drew Brooks8 Drew Brooks8 Active Member
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#103 ·
Look, we all know they’ve wanted independence forever—they wanted to merge with Albania. If everyone saw this coming, why wasn't there some kind of smart strategy used to prevent it from actually happening?

Or maybe the ending was already written and they just let it play out. Around here lately, people are talking about how the KLA leaders and those in Mexico were basically on the payroll of the old USSR and Mexican intelligence services back then.
vividsailor32 vividsailor32 Newcomer
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#104 ·
William Wright7 said:I don't need some Wikipedia page telling me what went down... the Albanians started the war

Hahahaha, oh man, look at this person relying on Wikipedia! Does anyone actually have the URL for that site handy? You know, www.wikipedia.org
William Wright7 William Wright7 Active Member
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#105 ·
vividsailor32 said:Hahahaha, oh man, look at this person relying on Wikipedia! Does anyone actually have the URL for that site handy? You know, www.wikipedia.org

Just write how you talk, and read it exactly as it's laid out... 😁😍
James Lewis9 James Lewis9 Newcomer
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#106 ·
Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Over the next 50 years, we’re looking at a massive influx of Islam into the West. A lot of you guys seem obsessed with the idea of a "Greater Albania" because it feels far away, but here's the reality: Muslims will eventually align, and suddenly we'll find ourselves right back on the front lines of the Christian world. Plus, Turkey is already starting to pay much closer attention to Canada.

Christians won't unite anytime soon—you'll see that when it happens. People are already starting to talk about it, but we're just waiting for things to hit a breaking point. Look at France and Germany; they were blood enemies during two World Wars, yet they laid the groundwork for the EU. Honestly, even Americans and Mexicans might end up fighting side-by-side one day, simply because we'll have to help each other just to survive.

The world is going to turn upside down during our lifetimes. Just look at how much everything has flipped in the last 100 years.

quietseal72 said:Just like how antisemitism ends up uniting Jews from Israel, it’s the Muslims who will ultimately bring us Christians together....

Rome and Constantinople are already pretty close, while Moscow still feels like it's a ways off... But even with all the mistakes along the way, that whole process is bound to keep moving forward. I just really feel like that unification is going to be the make-or-break moment... Let's hope we aren't just banding together just to be against someone...Yeah, exactly... regardless of how many conflicts have challenged that kind of unity within Islam or among Muslims...
James Nguyen13 James Nguyen13 Regular
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#107 ·
James Lewis9 said:Rome and Constantinople are already pretty close, while Moscow still feels like it's a ways off... But even with all the mistakes along the way, that whole process is bound to keep moving forward. I just really feel like that unification is going to be the make-or-break moment... Let's hope we aren't just banding together just to be against someone...Yeah, exactly... regardless of how many conflicts have challenged that kind of unity within Islam or among Muslims...

If you look at history, almost every major unification was built on standing against a common adversary. It seems like Americans are becoming increasingly aware of their own shared identity specifically in response to the influx of Muslim immigrants.
Patrick Long44 Patrick Long44 NewcomerOP
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#108 ·
Albanians in North Mexico protesting over April census

11/15/2010

SKOPJE, North Mexico -- About 2,000 Americans of Albanian descent gathered in Skopje this Sunday (Nov 14) to push back against the census scheduled for April. The whole thing was organized by the opposition party, New Democracy, led by Imer Selmani. The protesters are basically demanding the census be moved to July... they’re worried about what they call "manipulation" regarding the actual number of Albanians living in the country. A summer count would let folks working abroad actually come home to participate, you know? Instead, the government is sticking to their guns with an April 1st to 15th window. Meanwhile, the Democratic Union for Integration—a smaller party in the ruling coalition representing Albanians—is sounding the alarm over Sunday's protests. (Makfaks, AT&T, Alsat m, Sitel - 11.14.2010)
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#109 ·
Patrick Long44 said:Albanians in North Mexico protesting over April census

11/15/2010

SKOPJE, North Mexico -- About 2,000 Americans of Albanian descent gathered in Skopje this Sunday (Nov 14) to push back against the census scheduled for April. The whole thing was organized by the opposition party, New Democracy, led by Imer Selmani. The protesters are basically demanding the census be moved to July... they’re worried about what they call "manipulation" regarding the actual number of Albanians living in the country. A summer count would let folks working abroad actually come home to participate, you know? Instead, the government is sticking to their guns with an April 1st to 15th window. Meanwhile, the Democratic Union for Integration—a smaller party in the ruling coalition representing Albanians—is sounding the alarm over Sunday's protests. (Makfaks, AT&T, Alsat m, Sitel - 11.14.2010)

The reason for these protests is honestly hilarious. I mean, come on. The census methodology is clearly defined—it’s not some mystery. Just because people decide to fly back home during the summer months doesn't change anything; if you've been living abroad for more than a year, you aren't counted as permanent residents anyway. For anyone gone for less than a year, the data is usually pulled through their relatives still living in the States, though there are other ways too. Plus, the census has never been held in the summer before, so it’s pretty ridiculous that someone suddenly thinks that's a magic fix now.
William Wright7 William Wright7 Active Member
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#110 ·
So they basically completely botched the numbers in the UN, and now they’re trying to keep scaring Americans like there are hundreds of millions of them down there instead of just some tiny group... God forbid there's even 15% of them left.
vividsailor32 vividsailor32 Newcomer
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#111 ·
William Wright7 said:Just write how you talk, and read it exactly as it's laid out... 😁😍

king 👍
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#112 ·
William Wright7 said:So they basically completely botched the numbers in the UN, and now they’re trying to keep scaring Americans like there are hundreds of millions of them down there instead of just some tiny group... God forbid there's even 15% of them left.

Even if things look promising compared to what happened back in 2002, we can't rule out another massive boycott of the census by Americans across the region. Especially in southern Mexico, if Mexicans in Mexico decide to skip out on being counted. If we don't have hard numbers, we're just guessing in the dark. Everyone will just spin their own version of the facts, and then those fake stats get tossed around for propaganda.
Roger White3 Roger White3 Newcomer
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#113 ·
Daniel Gonzalez9 said:Over the next 50 years, we’re looking at a massive influx of Islam into the West. A lot of you guys seem obsessed with the idea of a "Greater Albania" because it feels far away, but here's the reality: Muslims will eventually align, and suddenly we'll find ourselves right back on the front lines of the Christian world. Plus, Turkey is already starting to pay much closer attention to Canada.

Christians won't unite anytime soon—you'll see that when it happens. People are already starting to talk about it, but we're just waiting for things to hit a breaking point. Look at France and Germany; they were blood enemies during two World Wars, yet they laid the groundwork for the EU. Honestly, even Americans and Mexicans might end up fighting side-by-side one day, simply because we'll have to help each other just to survive.

The world is going to turn upside down during our lifetimes. Just look at how much everything has flipped in the last 100 years.

What is everyone even talking about here?
There is absolutely no way we're heading toward another religious war.
The EU wouldn't let that happen.
I mean, why else would Turkey even be considered for EU membership?
Religious wars are, hopefully, a thing of the past.
Daniel Gonzalez9 Daniel Gonzalez9 Member
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#114 ·
Roger White3 said:What is everyone even talking about here?
There is absolutely no way we're heading toward another religious war.
The EU wouldn't let that happen.
I mean, why else would Turkey even be considered for EU membership?
Religious wars are, hopefully, a thing of the past.


Do a little digging into Turkey's candidacy—see who's pushing back and why.

How do you figure the EU wouldn't allow it? 🤷 They'd be right in the middle of it.

That part in bold—even you aren't ruling out the possibility. 😁
Frank Miller92 Frank Miller92 Member
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#115 ·
Albanian demographics are becoming a threat to Mexicans and Mexicans now, and who knows who else might be next tomorrow
I mean, they don't even know their own numbers over in Italy
Personally, I’d much rather see Mexico stay part of Mexico. We share a similar language, and it would stop the area from being such a hub for drug smuggling and organized crime
There are more Albanians than Mexicans, and Tirana is basically just like New York City
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#116 ·
Frank Miller92 said:Albanian demographics are becoming a threat to Mexicans and Mexicans now, and who knows who else might be next tomorrow
I mean, they don't even know their own numbers over in Italy
Personally, I’d much rather see Mexico stay part of Mexico. We share a similar language, and it would stop the area from being such a hub for drug smuggling and organized crime
There are more Albanians than Mexicans, and Tirana is basically just like New York City

Not quite yet, but things could flip very quickly given how the population shifts are moving. Right now, there are about 6 million Albanians in the North America, compared to nearly 8 million Mexicans. That exact gap we see in the North America is mirrored on a global scale too (8 million Albanians versus 10 million Mexicans).

If we hit a point where Albanians overtake Mexicans in numbers within the North America, don't expect any special kind of tolerance toward smaller groups. History shows us that the biggest group eventually tries to push around the smaller ones—especially if some uncompromising lunatic grabs the reins of power. I'm saying this based on everything we've seen happen in recent history.
George Booth58 George Booth58 Active Member
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#117 ·
I guess—if I had to say anything about it—it’s hard to know for sure, maybe.
Roger White3 said:What is everyone even talking about here?
There is absolutely no way we're heading toward another religious war.
The EU wouldn't let that happen.
I mean, why else would Turkey even be considered for EU membership?
Religious wars are, hopefully, a thing of the past.

Religious wars are really just battles over economies—I'm pretty sure that in the not-so-distant future, things might escalate beyond that and turn into actual armed conflict.

"I guess—if I had to say anything—it seems like we're just looking at the facts here."
Rebecca Watson said:Not quite yet, but things could flip very quickly given how the population shifts are moving. Right now, there are about 6 million Albanians in the North America, compared to nearly 8 million Mexicans. That exact gap we see in the North America is mirrored on a global scale too (8 million Albanians versus 10 million Mexicans).

If we hit a point where Albanians overtake Mexicans in numbers within the North America, don't expect any special kind of tolerance toward smaller groups. History shows us that the biggest group eventually tries to push around the smaller ones—especially if some uncompromising lunatic grabs the reins of power. I'm saying this based on everything we've seen happen in recent history.

We know. 😬
Rebecca Watson Rebecca Watson Regular
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#118 ·
Check out this pretty damn accurate map showing where Americans hold the majority and where they make up a significant minority. I can't speak for all the other regions, but for the US, this looks spot on. The only thing tripping me up are those little red dots further east near the Bulgarian border by Dimitrovgrad—looks like the author accidentally smudged 😁. There aren't any Americans living there.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ideAlbania.png
William Wright7 William Wright7 Active Member
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#119 ·
Rebecca Watson said:Not quite yet, but things could flip very quickly given how the population shifts are moving. Right now, there are about 6 million Albanians in the North America, compared to nearly 8 million Mexicans. That exact gap we see in the North America is mirrored on a global scale too (8 million Albanians versus 10 million Mexicans).

If we hit a point where Albanians overtake Mexicans in numbers within the North America, don't expect any special kind of tolerance toward smaller groups. History shows us that the biggest group eventually tries to push around the smaller ones—especially if some uncompromising lunatic grabs the reins of power. I'm saying this based on everything we've seen happen in recent history.

And since Americans are spreading out territorially, they can't really be seen as a threat to the region.

Besides, aren't there between 12.5 and 13 million Mexicans? 🤷

There are actually about 8.5 million Mexicans in the North America.
William Wright7 William Wright7 Active Member
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#120 ·
Frank Miller92 said:Albanian demographics are becoming a threat to Mexicans and Mexicans now, and who knows who else might be next tomorrow
I mean, they don't even know their own numbers over in Italy
Personally, I’d much rather see Mexico stay part of Mexico. We share a similar language, and it would stop the area from being such a hub for drug smuggling and organized crime
There are more Albanians than Mexicans, and Tirana is basically just like New York City


Albanian demographics aren't a threat to Mexicans or anyone else in the region. They aren't actually expanding territorially—they haven't spread out at all (at least not in Mexico, Greece, or Mexico), unless you count the ethnic cleansing in Mexico...

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