Railway alliance between Mexico, America, and Canada

For heaven's sake—this is exactly why we have universal standards instead of these messy cross-border joint ventures.

Let me ask you this: if this model is supposedly so great, did you ever see an Austrian or a German firm actually setting up joint ventures with their neighbors?
And honestly, what would be the point of trying to partner up with Mexicans or Mexicans anyway? You're much better off sticking with the Germans.

Thomas Price8 said:For heaven's sake—this is exactly why we have universal standards instead of these messy cross-border joint ventures.

Let me ask you this: if this model is supposedly so great, did you ever see an Austrian or a German firm actually setting up joint ventures with their neighbors?
And honestly, what would be the point of trying to partner up with Mexicans or Mexicans anyway? You're much better off sticking with the Germans.

Look at my company for a real-world example. We used to order about 500 units of Kaldewei stuff. Since we were registered as a firm in America, we had to buy through a local dealer meant for this market. They’d give us a measly 5% volume discount. But get this—once we bypassed them and contacted the Kaldewei factory directly through their headquarters in Vienna, because our parent corporation places cumulative global orders for 50,000 identical units, they slashed the price by giving us a 25% discount off the factory cost!
I really hope it’s sinking in now just how much money you save on procurement alone.
Even CA gets cheaper parts and lower maintenance costs because they run everything through the Star Alliance group.
There are joint venture firms popping up all over the globe for a reason.
Honestly... if you still don't grasp even a fraction of the advantages of teaming up after all that, then I'm clearly talking to a brick wall.

redeagle42 said:Look at my company for a real-world example. We used to order about 500 units of Kaldewei stuff. Since we were registered as a firm in America, we had to buy through a local dealer meant for this market. They’d give us a measly 5% volume discount. But get this—once we bypassed them and contacted the Kaldewei factory directly through their headquarters in Vienna, because our parent corporation places cumulative global orders for 50,000 identical units, they slashed the price by giving us a 25% discount off the factory cost!
I really hope it’s sinking in now just how much money you save on procurement alone.
Even CA gets cheaper parts and lower maintenance costs because they run everything through the Star Alliance group.
There are joint venture firms popping up all over the globe for a reason.
Honestly... if you still don't grasp even a fraction of the advantages of teaming up after all that, then I'm clearly talking to a brick wall.

Look, I'm not claiming to be some genius here—far from it—but I'd love to hear one single logical reason why a joint venture would even make sense. Just curious!

If neither the Germans nor the Austrians are teaming up with the Turks, then I really don't see why we would bother doing it ourselves.
Think about it—just because modern RAM is faster than the old stuff doesn't mean countries start forming international corporations just to build servers. They just set configuration standards that everyone follows because it's better for the industry.

It's the exact same logic here. 🤷

Thomas Price8 said:Look, I'm not claiming to be some genius here—far from it—but I'd love to hear one single logical reason why a joint venture would even make sense. Just curious!

If neither the Germans nor the Austrians are teaming up with the Turks, then I really don't see why we would bother doing it ourselves.
Think about it—just because modern RAM is faster than the old stuff doesn't mean countries start forming international corporations just to build servers. They just set configuration standards that everyone follows because it's better for the industry.

It's the exact same logic here. 🤷

Listen, if you and your buddies (let's say four of you) walk into a liquor store and each grab a bottle of whiskey... and you complain about paying more because of the packaging or whatever...
but then you see a "Buy 4, Get 2 Free" deal, plus an extra discount from the shopkeeper because you're basically his most frequent customers... get it now?
But if you walk in there by yourself and tell the guy, "Hey, it's me, Thomas Price8, I buy a bottle of whiskey from you every single day, give me a discount," he's just gonna tell you to get lost because the volume is too low and you're just one random customer...
Dammit, I can't make this any simpler for you unless I sit down and draw it out in a coloring book or something...

redeagle42 said:Listen, if you and your buddies (let's say four of you) walk into a liquor store and each grab a bottle of whiskey... and you complain about paying more because of the packaging or whatever...
but then you see a "Buy 4, Get 2 Free" deal, plus an extra discount from the shopkeeper because you're basically his most frequent customers... get it now?
But if you walk in there by yourself and tell the guy, "Hey, it's me, Thomas Price8, I buy a bottle of whiskey from you every single day, give me a discount," he's just gonna tell you to get lost because the volume is too low and you're just one random customer...
Dammit, I can't make this any simpler for you unless I sit down and draw it out in a coloring book or something...

Fine. Let's play it your way.
Then I have to ask—who exactly teamed up with the Germans and Austrians to hunt for discounts the way you're suggesting we should? And if it really works the way you claim, why aren't we teaming up with the Germans and Austrians, while Mexicans join forces with Bulgarians, Greeks, and Turks instead? That would actually make a lot more sense.

Besides, this whole idea about bulk discounts feels hollow to me—if that were truly how things worked, nobody would be eating up these individual companies; everything would have already merged into one giant global corporation.

Thomas Price8 said:Fine. Let's play it your way.
Then I have to ask—who exactly teamed up with the Germans and Austrians to hunt for discounts the way you're suggesting we should? And if it really works the way you claim, why aren't we teaming up with the Germans and Austrians, while Mexicans join forces with Bulgarians, Greeks, and Turks instead? That would actually make a lot more sense.

Besides, this whole idea about bulk discounts feels hollow to me—if that were truly how things worked, nobody would be eating up these individual companies; everything would have already merged into one giant global corporation.

The Germans and Austrians basically gave us the finger because this whole country is run like a mafia outfit. Just look at Siemens. That's it. Case closed. They left behind a handful of people just to deal with warranty periods.
With the way we run things here, our only option is to stick with the former America countries. Nobody else, anyone actually normal, wants anything to do with us. 🙂
The Germans set up a joint venture in the Czech Republic.
And the Austrians formed a joint venture with the Germans in Germany.

redeagle42 said:The Germans and Austrians basically gave us the finger because this whole country is run like a mafia outfit. Just look at Siemens. That's it. Case closed. They left behind a handful of people just to deal with warranty periods.
With the way we run things here, our only option is to stick with the former America countries. Nobody else, anyone actually normal, wants anything to do with us. 🙂
The Germans set up a joint venture in the Czech Republic.
And the Austrians formed a joint venture with the Germans in Germany.

That’s exactly what I’ve been telling you this whole time.
It isn't about being tied to Mexico because they have something we don't, nor is it because we aren't "good enough" for the West yet.
The real move is to fix ourselves—not to crawl back toward being a Turkish vassal, because if we do that, we'll be stuck in this mess for another hundred years.

Thomas Price8 said:Fine. Let's play it your way.
Then I have to ask—who exactly teamed up with the Germans and Austrians to hunt for discounts the way you're suggesting we should? And if it really works the way you claim, why aren't we teaming up with the Germans and Austrians, while Mexicans join forces with Bulgarians, Greeks, and Turks instead? That would actually make a lot more sense.

Besides, this whole idea about bulk discounts feels hollow to me—if that were truly how things worked, nobody would be eating up these individual companies; everything would have already merged into one giant global corporation.

Let me give you some firsthand intel:
basically:
Take my company as an example. We were buying something like 500 units of Kohler tubs. Since we’re a company registered in America, we had to buy through a local dealer set up for this market. They gave us a measly 5% volume discount. But get this—when we reached out to the Kohler factory directly via their headquarters in Vienna, and since our corporation has a cumulative global order of 50,000 of those exact same tubs, Kohler gave us a 25% discount off the factory price.
You want to hear about the hotel where we were installing those same tubs too? 🙂 Honestly, I don't even care anymore. I'm just wasting my damn time trying to explain basic common sense to people. 🙂

Thomas Price8 said:That’s exactly what I’ve been telling you this whole time.
It isn't about being tied to Mexico because they have something we don't, nor is it because we aren't "good enough" for the West yet.
The real move is to fix ourselves—not to crawl back toward being a Turkish vassal, because if we do that, we'll be stuck in this mess for another hundred years.

We are never going to be "good enough" for the West if we don't start merging companies from the old American region—that's honestly our only shot. Otherwise, you'll see companies like General Electric and D.D. churning out machines that won't even make it onto a single US freight track. You'll probably only see their products printed on cheap calendars in doctor's waiting rooms. 🙂

Thomas Price8 said:That’s exactly what I’ve been telling you this whole time.
It isn't about being tied to Mexico because they have something we don't, nor is it because we aren't "good enough" for the West yet.
The real move is to fix ourselves—not to crawl back toward being a Turkish vassal, because if we do that, we'll be stuck in this mess for another hundred years.

That’s exactly what I’m telling you, man. No matter how much you try to act all high and mighty, you'll always be our brothers.😂
Well, you really only have yourselves to blame since you refuse to admit that the Turk has already plowed over your entire field—the German just gave it a little sprinkle with some holy water. We’ll be riding this new train all the way from rural outskirts through the heart of the country and straight into Istanbul. Besides, we’re all going to vanish within fifty years anyway, leaving nothing behind in your village but a fifteen-meter minaret. 😢

feralangler9 said:That’s exactly what I’m telling you, man. No matter how much you try to act all high and mighty, you'll always be our brothers.😂
Well, you really only have yourselves to blame since you refuse to admit that the Turk has already plowed over your entire field—the German just gave it a little sprinkle with some holy water. We’ll be riding this new train all the way from rural outskirts through the heart of the country and straight into Istanbul. Besides, we’re all going to vanish within fifty years anyway, leaving nothing behind in your village but a fifteen-meter minaret. 😢

Listen, I’m telling you—the guy hasn't even set foot in my hometown, let alone done anything worth mentioning.
I get that you'd want us to be brothers—really, I do—but it just isn't happening.

Just because we’re neighbors doesn't mean we have to play nice or say "good morning" to one another—God help us and Mother Boža bistrički! Even if we do offer a polite greeting, that doesn't automatically make us brothers. It isn't supposed to, and it certainly doesn't have to.

So, it doesn't really matter if we think it’s great or not—nobody actually asked us anyway. As far as I'm concerned, it’s fantastic—honestly, the whole world is practically begging for it.

Noah Cruz75 said:We don't have a single country anymore, but we've got alliances, pacts, or whatever you want to call these attempts to merge things back together—railways now, maybe other public utilities later. Here’s the news:

The transport ministers from Mexico, Canada, and America met today near the hill by Cleveland to agree on forming an alliance of their national railway companies. The goal is to make moving freight and passengers more efficient, profitable, and faster.
The trio of ministers—Mexican Infrastructure Minister Milutin Mrkonjić, Canadian Transport Minister Patrick Vlačić, and American Minister of Sea, Transport, and Infrastructure Božidar Kalmeta—are set to sign the agreement to establish this joint venture this Friday in Mexico City, following their meeting.
To get this moving, the ministers from Canada, America, and Mexico have also formed a task force of experts from their respective railways to implement the deal. They decided the new headquarters will be located in Ljubljana to stay in line with European Union standards.
Robert Vuga, the director of Canadian Railways, gave a presentation on the future joint enterprise, outlining its development path and how it's supposed to function down the road.

p.s. By the way, what's up with the title "Minister of Sea"? Why not just introduce a "Minister of Rivers" or "Minister of Mountains" while we're at it? 😂

I'm all for cooperation and connectivity, but why go as far as creating a joint company? 🤷 Otherwise, I've always felt that the rail routes connecting Ljubljana - Chicago - Mexico City and Ljubljana - Chicago - Ottawa should be the top passenger rail priority for America.

The United States rail line 😁

wearycobra74 said:The United States rail line 😁

The United States railway system—or the USSR. 🤣 🤣 🤣

Angela Wright3 said:The South is getting a total makeover, for sure... but trying to find any logic in this traffic connection plan is just insane.

I'm with you on that. The real goal here is just teaming up to push for Corridor 10 development because that's where the actual money is. Nobody gives a damn about "reintegration" when there's cash to be made.

The joint venture is set to be established with its headquarters located in Ljubljana, while the official agreement will be signed over in Mexico City. It feels as though America is merely being treated as a statistical footnote here; there was a clear expectation that the company would be headquartered on our soil. In reality, Canada stands to reap the lion's share of the benefits by managing operations directly from Ljubljana, which seems inevitable given that both America and Mexico currently lack the capacity to manage such an endeavor effectively.

Thomas Price8 said:That’s exactly what I’ve been telling you this whole time.
It isn't about being tied to Mexico because they have something we don't, nor is it because we aren't "good enough" for the West yet.
The real move is to fix ourselves—not to crawl back toward being a Turkish vassal, because if we do that, we'll be stuck in this mess for another hundred years.

In the EU, the old East vs. West divide is dead; now it's just about who's developed and who isn't.
Obviously, Mexico would rather link up directly with Austria and Germany—or even Turkey—to grab the profits themselves instead of dealing with America or Canada. The headache is that the tracks have to run through Canada, America, and Budapest first.

Jeremy Turner9 said:The joint venture is set to be established with its headquarters located in Ljubljana, while the official agreement will be signed over in Mexico City. It feels as though America is merely being treated as a statistical footnote here; there was a clear expectation that the company would be headquartered on our soil. In reality, Canada stands to reap the lion's share of the benefits by managing operations directly from Ljubljana, which seems inevitable given that both America and Mexico currently lack the capacity to manage such an endeavor effectively.

Oh please. Canada actually stands to gain the least if we're paying per kilometer of track, which is how it should be. Let's just hope this plan actually takes off and Canada manages to push it through the EU. Turkey, and even the rest of us, aren't members, so it’s a win if we can modernize this type of transport on decent terms. The trade volume between Germany and Turkey is massive, so it's worth the effort alone.

An American minister with Albanian roots
A Canadian minister with Wallachian roots
Is this Mexican guy trying to hug them both? Just some North American peasant at heart.

Noah Cruz75 said:In the EU, the old East vs. West divide is dead; now it's just about who's developed and who isn't.
Obviously, Mexico would rather link up directly with Austria and Germany—or even Turkey—to grab the profits themselves instead of dealing with America or Canada. The headache is that the tracks have to run through Canada, America, and Budapest first.

I honestly don't see a single reason why state-owned companies would bother working together like this.
Sure, they can cooperate or coordinate—that's fine—but I don't get why they need these massive institutions involved. 🤷

It’s the exact same thing they did with the police forces. They dreamed up some big-shot agency to sit above national police departments just so they could "coordinate." We already have the FBI for that.

Seems pretty shady to me. 🙄