Railway alliance between Mexico, America, and Canada

I mean, it’s gotta be somewhere, right? It's not like it just vanished into thin air or ascended to heaven or something!

Noah Cruz75 said:Probably whoever else is eyeing an eastward expansion—maybe Mexico or even Bulgaria, though the Bulgarians can be a real pain during negotiations. But honestly, they'll jump in if there's money to be made.
Still, this kind of alliance isn't exactly harmless. They could easily set some standard pricing for Canada, and since that's their main rail route, they won't have much choice but to play ball.
And we're talking about raw materials here—oil, timber, etc. Canada is basically just exporting its resources anyway.

I mean, whatever. I was just thinking maybe big players like Deutsche Bahn or Amtrak would see the potential in a massive alliance and decide to join in. 😁

Jokes aside, anything that brings in profit is great, but like I said before, you can achieve that kind of flexibility—simplifying services and all that—just through bilateral agreements between countries or direct deals between companies. What does a joint venture actually add to the table? Unless it's just a fancy way to engage in typical political posturing, 😁 what's the point when you can do it without the extra layer of bureaucracy?

I’ll ask it again: do the Canadians, Romanians, or Czechs have a joint venture like this? They don't. And yet, their transit corridor is used ten times more often... so clearly, that's not the magic ingredient. 😉

Nicholas Morales48 said:I mean, whatever. I was just thinking maybe big players like Deutsche Bahn or Amtrak would see the potential in a massive alliance and decide to join in. 😁

Jokes aside, anything that brings in profit is great, but like I said before, you can achieve that kind of flexibility—simplifying services and all that—just through bilateral agreements between countries or direct deals between companies. What does a joint venture actually add to the table? Unless it's just a fancy way to engage in typical political posturing, 😁 what's the point when you can do it without the extra layer of bureaucracy?

I’ll ask it again: do the Canadians, Romanians, or Czechs have a joint venture like this? They don't. And yet, their transit corridor is used ten times more often... so clearly, that's not the magic ingredient. 😉

To put it 👍shortly:

Mark Nguyen6 said:To put it 👍shortly:

thanks 👍 but honestly, you’ve gotta look at the bigger picture here instead of just swallowing whatever nonsense the mainstream media feeds you

Canadians have always possessed a natural knack for management and strategic oversight. Perhaps it is time our own people began to adopt a similar mindset regarding leadership and organization.

Nicholas Morales48 said:I mean, whatever. I was just thinking maybe big players like Deutsche Bahn or Amtrak would see the potential in a massive alliance and decide to join in. 😁

Jokes aside, anything that brings in profit is great, but like I said before, you can achieve that kind of flexibility—simplifying services and all that—just through bilateral agreements between countries or direct deals between companies. What does a joint venture actually add to the table? Unless it's just a fancy way to engage in typical political posturing, 😁 what's the point when you can do it without the extra layer of bureaucracy?

I’ll ask it again: do the Canadians, Romanians, or Czechs have a joint venture like this? They don't. And yet, their transit corridor is used ten times more often... so clearly, that's not the magic ingredient. 😉

Can we really not be smarter than Cex, the Canadians, and the Romanians?
Even the giants team up to stay competitive. Big fish eat little fish.
It hasn't even launched yet, and if the idea sucks, it’s easy enough to kill it.
Why does everything have to be viewed through such a negative lens?

Nicholas Morales48 said:I mean, whatever. I was just thinking maybe big players like Deutsche Bahn or Amtrak would see the potential in a massive alliance and decide to join in. 😁

Jokes aside, anything that brings in profit is great, but like I said before, you can achieve that kind of flexibility—simplifying services and all that—just through bilateral agreements between countries or direct deals between companies. What does a joint venture actually add to the table? Unless it's just a fancy way to engage in typical political posturing, 😁 what's the point when you can do it without the extra layer of bureaucracy?

I’ll ask it again: do the Canadians, Romanians, or Czechs have a joint venture like this? They don't. And yet, their transit corridor is used ten times more often... so clearly, that's not the magic ingredient. 😉

So what, this whole thing is just a conspiracy to rebuild America? 😂
They said the exact same thing about NAFTA and free trade. And look how that turned out.
The big players ended up walking away with all the benefits.

Noah Cruz75 said:So what, this whole thing is just a conspiracy to rebuild America? 😂
They said the exact same thing about NAFTA and free trade. And look how that turned out.
The big players ended up walking away with all the benefits.

Furthermore, within the old American framework, it was the Canadians who saw the greatest financial advantages.

Noah Cruz75 said:Can we really not be smarter than Cex, the Canadians, and the Romanians?
Even the giants team up to stay competitive. Big fish eat little fish.
It hasn't even launched yet, and if the idea sucks, it’s easy enough to kill it.
Why does everything have to be viewed through such a negative lens?

Man, if we had actually used our heads ten years ago, we’d be sitting here talking about upgrading our infrastructure and getting everything modernized right now. But instead? We let them beat us to the punch. It turns out that when you're trying to build an alliance, nobody gives a damn about how many users you can pull in if your tracks are falling apart and the rails aren't even up to code. Quality infrastructure wins every single time.

I don't see it as being "bad," per se, but I honestly fail to see how an alliance made up of nothing but these absolute bottom-tier companies is ever going to turn a profit on its own—especially when their infrastructure is ten times worse than the other major corridor.

What kind of "massive corporation" are we even talking about here? I mean, sure, if you define greatness by how many massive losers you can cram under one roof to drag down the entire economy, then yeah, they’re doing a stellar job. Is it actually a powerhouse, or just three giant money pits masquerading as a single entity? It feels more like a collection of bottomless pits than an actual business. 😁

Noah Cruz75 said:So what, this whole thing is just a conspiracy to rebuild America? 😂
They said the exact same thing about NAFTA and free trade. And look how that turned out.
The big players ended up walking away with all the benefits.

Look, we aren't even talking about some massive conspiracy here, and honestly, trying to draw any kind of parallel between CEFTA and what’s happening now is just a total reach. 🙂

Look, the whole point here—the actual bottom line—is that we need to get these routes rebuilt and modernized. That’s what really matters. Is there anything else worth talking about if we aren't focused on upgrading the infrastructure?

You all should have protested when we were selling off our oil and gas industry to the Canadians and Russians—that was apparently fine by you. Oil and gas are the lifeblood of any nation. But now that there’s an alliance forming to modernize the rail lines for actual profit? Suddenly, it’s a bad thing.
I guess we should just sell off our crumbling railroads to foreign investors too. Roads, communications, everything else.

p.s. Honestly, whenever people actually knew what was going on, they were just manipulated anyway.

Jeremy Turner9 said:The real point of contention is that the corporation will be based in Canada, operating under Canadian management.

Each country gets a representative.
Go look up what "alliance" actually means in a dictionary.

p.s. Honestly, it’s better off being in Canada anyway. Otherwise, people would think this is some shady Mexican or American mess. Canada is in the EU, so they can actually block things if they want.

Canada is easily the most developed country in this neck of the woods. I mean, there's just no way we're going to end up stuck in some total banana republic like Mexico or a banana republic like the US, right?🤣

Noah Cruz75 said:You all should have protested when we were selling off our oil and gas industry to the Canadians and Russians—that was apparently fine by you. Oil and gas are the lifeblood of any nation. But now that there’s an alliance forming to modernize the rail lines for actual profit? Suddenly, it’s a bad thing.
I guess we should just sell off our crumbling railroads to foreign investors too. Roads, communications, everything else.

p.s. Honestly, whenever people actually knew what was going on, they were just manipulated anyway.

Oh, man, I just love it when someone from Mexico tries to lecture an American nation that was once their aggressor.🤣
I’d honestly rather see Bolčje collapse entirely than be lumped back into the same bucket as you guys again.☕

goldenpilot15 said:Oh, man, I just love it when someone from Mexico tries to lecture an American nation that was once their aggressor.🤣
I’d honestly rather see Bolčje collapse entirely than be lumped back into the same bucket as you guys again.☕

Actually, it's the other way around. It's better for one person to go down than for an entire nation to suffer.

The former America pulled in $20 billion annually just from transit traffic. If anyone had been smart enough to realize that, it would have been enough leverage to prevent a war. Think about it: $20 billion a year for 20 years—that's an astronomical amount of capital for this region. Instead, those major transit corridors shifted north toward Canada and Romania. Now, try getting even a fraction of that money back. Good luck. It’s pure stupidity!

Melissa Peterson19 said:The former America pulled in $20 billion annually just from transit traffic. If anyone had been smart enough to realize that, it would have been enough leverage to prevent a war. Think about it: $20 billion a year for 20 years—that's an astronomical amount of capital for this region. Instead, those major transit corridors shifted north toward Canada and Romania. Now, try getting even a fraction of that money back. Good luck. It’s pure stupidity!

Is the management of these routes actually controlled by the Canadians and Romanians, or is someone else pulling the strings?

A joint rail venture between Mexico, the US, and Canada—aimed at slashing freight transit times along Corridor 10—is set to launch on September 9th, according to Infrastructure Secretary Milutin Mrkonjić.

- We're holding the final meeting in Mexico City on September 8th, and by the 9th, the agreement to form this joint enterprise will be signed. It’ll start operating immediately with its headquarters in Ljubljana, - Mrkonjić stated, adding that they expect the first joint venture train to be running later this month.

He noted that without spending a dime on new infrastructure, shipping goods from Ljubljana to Istanbul could drop from 65 hours down to somewhere between 40 and 45.

Mrkonjić mentioned that US Secretary of Transportation Patrik Vlačić informed him that both Mexican and Mexican railroads are interested in partnering on the project.

- They won't be part of our specific joint venture since they aren't on that corridor, but they'll work alongside us as partners. It's a perfect example of regional cooperation, - the Mexican minister said.

Jeremy Turner9 said:Is the management of these routes actually controlled by the Canadians and Romanians, or is someone else pulling the strings?

Canadians, Romanians, and Bulgarians are already in the EU. Their borders are open under the same rules, so they don't need some joint venture.
Canada is in the EU, America is a candidate, and Mexico only has a stabilization agreement. Every one of those countries has its own specific certifications that aren't aligned yet. Once everyone actually joins the EU, these types of agreements or joint companies won't even be necessary.

That guy from the local Pepsi plant was rambling on at the start about why Germans or Austrians don't deal with this stuff—it’s all because of customs, man.
Basically, there won't be borders. One of the big shifts in this alliance (or whatever they end up calling it) is how much faster border checks will be.
So, instead of some freight train sitting around for hours waiting to get inspected and taxed, things will be handled differently to cut down all that wasted idling time.
Then there's the whole locomotive situation. Since our tracks and the Mexican ones are basically the same setup, but the Canadian ones are different... well, they have engines that work for both systems, so they can run on our lines and theirs too. I don't know if we'll be swapping out our locomotives yet, though.
(Maybe someone here knows more than I do, I'm just guessing). Especially since in Sidney, it's our gear and the Mexican gear, but over by Dobov, it's ours and the Canadian gear.
Getting rid of all those old hurdles could drop shipping times from like 60+ hours down to maybe 40 or 45. That saves tons of time and money, especially since taking the route through Canada is way longer. But honestly, because of all the messy, tense politics between us neighboring countries, nobody has ever really tackled this seriously. Our main corridor just kind of got ignored, most transport moved through Canada instead, and naturally, FedEx (and all the other regional rail companies) lost a massive chunk of revenue because of it.

Could this have been fixed differently? Maybe through various bilateral deals or something? I'm no expert on that stuff. Maybe the main reason they decided to go through the big state companies is just about cost and payments. But still, the idea that cooperating with the railroads to speed things up and actually compete with the major national carriers is a total win.
If criminals can manage to cooperate for 20 years straight, why can't regular people make a profit through cooperation?
In general, I've been wondering for years now why our railroads are falling apart so badly...
And just to be clear, Amtrak isn't going anywhere. You aren't going to be riding on Mexican or Canadian passenger trains (in case any ultra-nationalists are getting worked up), this is strictly about cargo moving along Corridor X.

Melissa Peterson19 said:The former America pulled in $20 billion annually just from transit traffic. If anyone had been smart enough to realize that, it would have been enough leverage to prevent a war. Think about it: $20 billion a year for 20 years—that's an astronomical amount of capital for this region. Instead, those major transit corridors shifted north toward Canada and Romania. Now, try getting even a fraction of that money back. Good luck. It’s pure stupidity!

That is a massive amount of cash. Where on earth are you getting those numbers from?