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Richard Howard55 Richard Howard55 Regular
251 messages
joined Aug 2015
#1421 ·
What kind of accountant am I? It feels like my knowledge fades daily while my reliance on digging through tax codes just grows.
If I lived near the coast, maybe things would work out somehow. 🙂

It's been a while, ruggedcyclist74. ☕
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
193 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1422 ·
Richard Howard55 said:What kind of accountant am I? It feels like my knowledge fades daily while my reliance on digging through tax codes just grows.
If I lived near the coast, maybe things would work out somehow. 🙂

It's been a while, ruggedcyclist74. ☕

Believe me, I’m right there with you on that feeling. 🙂

I’ve been MIA lately because life got a bit chaotic, and I’m currently hunting for a new gig (if anyone in NYC or maybe Austin happens to be hiring), so I’ve been spending a little more time lurking here...

I actually read everything you all post every single day—it’s become part of my morning routine—but I just haven't had the bandwidth to actually type anything out. 🤣
And that’s just to make sure I don't miss any of the good stuff. 😉

So, how are things actually going with you, if we set aside the technical knowledge, the endless regulations, and the general lack of salt in our lives? 🙂
Jose Turner57 Jose Turner57 Member
29 messages
joined Jan 2013
#1423 ·
I’m crossing my fingers for you while you hunt for that new role 🙂.
I actually just started a new position myself—though "started" might be an understatement since I was dropped into a new system with absolutely zero training. There’s nobody to call for help, and the technical support is basically non-existent. It's been a bit of a whirlwind, but oh well, let's just grab a coffee and toast to better luck ☕!
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#1424 ·
Since we all spent years losing ourselves in Izet Hajdarhodžić’s brilliant performances over at the local Coffee shop, I just have to quote that iconic final scene: Waiter..... coffee!

And please, stop complaining—with this ridiculous weather, it isn't even that warm out there...
Richard Howard55 Richard Howard55 Regular
251 messages
joined Aug 2015
#1425 ·
If I ignore the regulations, the technicalities, and the sodium deficiency... things aren't too bad... 🙂

Larry Summers basically forced me to sit down and rethink my entire workflow... so I decided to just scale back. Honestly, I wasn't about to sign up for that ridiculous 24-hour turnaround window on the quarterly filings.

Now I’m working less (for the first time in—I don't even remember how many years—I'm hitting deadlines, there's no backlog, and everything is actually organized),

I'm making less, sure, but my overhead isn't what it used to be, so all things considered, it's much, much better.

By August, I won't even have a salt deficiency anymore. 🙂
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#1426 ·
Richard Howard55 said:If I ignore the regulations, the technicalities, and the sodium deficiency... things aren't too bad... 🙂

Larry Summers basically forced me to sit down and rethink my entire workflow... so I decided to just scale back. Honestly, I wasn't about to sign up for that ridiculous 24-hour turnaround window on the quarterly filings.

Now I’m working less (for the first time in—I don't even remember how many years—I'm hitting deadlines, there's no backlog, and everything is actually organized),

I'm making less, sure, but my overhead isn't what it used to be, so all things considered, it's much, much better.

By August, I won't even have a salt deficiency anymore. 🙂

Just move on already... go enjoy some cheap deli sandwich, though maybe don't expect much quality. Forget about Larry Summers—he's gone. It’s all just disposable stuff anyway.

And feel free to ask me how life is on two Social Security checks: $2,400 and $2,200. Look, excuse my language, but it’s the honest truth. The only comfort is knowing plenty of people have it much worse and are still scraping by... which isn't exactly a consolation prize, is it?

Still... you know what's great? You don't give a single cent to that ridiculous clique, yet they still cut you that tiny check. That sense of satisfaction? Priceless. Plus, you get to do what you want instead of what you're forced to do... (Seriously, those idiots who came up with those 24-hour turnaround deadlines—they must have been out of their minds!)
Jose Turner57 Jose Turner57 Member
29 messages
joined Jan 2013
#1427 ·
I honestly get worked up every single time I hear about payroll tax filings.;
Between the monthly payroll reports, the sales tax deadlines, the wage-related filings, and then the end-of-month VAT reconciliations,
you spend the entire month just stressing over whether you actually submitted every last damn report or if you accidentally skipped one somewhere...
And don't even get me started on reporting unpaid wages versus when they actually hit the bank, or separating out per diems and travel reimbursements... it’s absolute chaos. Who is supposed to keep track of all that? We really need one dedicated account just for disbursements and non-payments to handle the withholding calculations properly.
How am I supposed to go on vacation? I swear, Larry Summers and his arbitrary deadlines are driving me insane. We used to have two possible deadlines; now we’re juggling four. 🙂
ruggedcyclist74 ruggedcyclist74 Active Member
193 messages
joined Feb 2009
#1428 ·
Richard Howard55 said:If I ignore the regulations, the technicalities, and the sodium deficiency... things aren't too bad... 🙂

Larry Summers basically forced me to sit down and rethink my entire workflow... so I decided to just scale back. Honestly, I wasn't about to sign up for that ridiculous 24-hour turnaround window on the quarterly filings.

Now I’m working less (for the first time in—I don't even remember how many years—I'm hitting deadlines, there's no backlog, and everything is actually organized),

I'm making less, sure, but my overhead isn't what it used to be, so all things considered, it's much, much better.

By August, I won't even have a salt deficiency anymore. 🙂

That’s a pretty smart way to play it, just keeping a few high-quality, steady clients and taking it easy... I reached that conclusion a long time ago; if we want to actually produce decent work in this industry, our primary concern has to be our own health.
I’m quite jealous of your retirement plans, though; I think I’ll be stuck at the office for another year or so.😂

Jessica Grant56 said:Just move on already... go enjoy some cheap deli sandwich, though maybe don't expect much quality. Forget about Larry Summers—he's gone. It’s all just disposable stuff anyway.

And feel free to ask me how life is on two Social Security checks: $2,400 and $2,200. Look, excuse my language, but it’s the honest truth. The only comfort is knowing plenty of people have it much worse and are still scraping by... which isn't exactly a consolation prize, is it?

Still... you know what's great? You don't give a single cent to that ridiculous clique, yet they still cut you that tiny check. That sense of satisfaction? Priceless. Plus, you get to do what you want instead of what you're forced to do... (Seriously, those idiots who came up with those 24-hour turnaround deadlines—they must have been out of their minds!)

Personally, I don't see myself retiring even when the time actually comes.😛
Besides, one really needs to get used to the idea of doing nothing.🤣

Jose Turner57 said:I honestly get worked up every single time I hear about payroll tax filings.;
Between the monthly payroll reports, the sales tax deadlines, the wage-related filings, and then the end-of-month VAT reconciliations,
you spend the entire month just stressing over whether you actually submitted every last damn report or if you accidentally skipped one somewhere...
And don't even get me started on reporting unpaid wages versus when they actually hit the bank, or separating out per diems and travel reimbursements... it’s absolute chaos. Who is supposed to keep track of all that? We really need one dedicated account just for disbursements and non-payments to handle the withholding calculations properly.
How am I supposed to go on vacation? I swear, Larry Summers and his arbitrary deadlines are driving me insane. We used to have two possible deadlines; now we’re juggling four. 🙂

Oof, I can practically feel how exhausting the beginning of the cycle is... I know exactly what you mean.
Which four deadlines are you referring to? And what about those independent contractor agreements, owner draws, and similar payouts?
What happened to the statistical reporting—like the mid-month updates, the payroll reports, and all that? What about the Census Bureau filings?
We have as many deadlines as we want.☕

@Dubo, that isn't whining; it's just a bit of peer consultation.😉
Jose Turner57 Jose Turner57 Member
29 messages
joined Jan 2013
#1429 ·
I’m not running a retail chain, an import business, or a restaurant group, so I suppose I don't have much room to complain.
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#1430 ·
Jose Turner57 said:I honestly get worked up every single time I hear about payroll tax filings.;
Between the monthly payroll reports, the sales tax deadlines, the wage-related filings, and then the end-of-month VAT reconciliations,
you spend the entire month just stressing over whether you actually submitted every last damn report or if you accidentally skipped one somewhere...
And don't even get me started on reporting unpaid wages versus when they actually hit the bank, or separating out per diems and travel reimbursements... it’s absolute chaos. Who is supposed to keep track of all that? We really need one dedicated account just for disbursements and non-payments to handle the withholding calculations properly.
How am I supposed to go on vacation? I swear, Larry Summers and his arbitrary deadlines are driving me insane. We used to have two possible deadlines; now we’re juggling four. 🙂

Seriously, have you no shame? To go and do something like that right out in the open?!?!?

Don't even sweat it—we've got plenty of other scumbags running things in Washington. Honestly, I'd be happy if Mig just tripped over his own feet and fell flat on his face.
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#1431 ·
ruggedcyclist74 said:That’s a pretty smart way to play it, just keeping a few high-quality, steady clients and taking it easy... I reached that conclusion a long time ago; if we want to actually produce decent work in this industry, our primary concern has to be our own health.
I’m quite jealous of your retirement plans, though; I think I’ll be stuck at the office for another year or so.😂

Personally, I don't see myself retiring even when the time actually comes.😛
Besides, one really needs to get used to the idea of doing nothing.🤣

Oof, I can practically feel how exhausting the beginning of the cycle is... I know exactly what you mean.
Which four deadlines are you referring to? And what about those independent contractor agreements, owner draws, and similar payouts?
What happened to the statistical reporting—like the mid-month updates, the payroll reports, and all that? What about the Census Bureau filings?
We have as many deadlines as we want.☕

@Dubo, that isn't whining; it's just a bit of peer consultation.😉

First off: take my word for it, getting used to doing nothing is easy—you can start the very same day you stop working. But actually settling into that lifestyle permanently? That’s a different story, especially for those of us who've been grinding our whole lives, always told things will be "better" in some bright, distant future.

And don't worry, you'll definitely find something to vent about—whether it's with $0.77 or just over a few drinks... It’s basically just part of life, everywhere you go.
Carol Price4 Carol Price4 Regular
380 messages
joined Nov 2019
#1432 ·


Oh my god, seriously... 🤣
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#1433 ·
I really don't want to get her name in this—honestly, she was doing just fine a few days ago, but now? Just look at her.
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#1434 ·
So, I took a look at it too—and honestly, what’s the big deal here? This area in the video has already been designated as a wildlife preserve, so it only makes sense to find a spot for chickens, too. Just regular, backyard chickens. People, you have got to be kidding me!!
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#1435 ·
Sometimes you can see the big picture through the tiny details—like this absolute gem of a sentence from our local IRS office:

- during the years 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011 is not taxable is subject to capital gains tax.

And seriously, if "is not taxable is" is the phrase, then clearly some clerk dropped a comma in there by mistake—honestly, it feels like they don't even know why they showed up to work today.

So, for those of you who actually understand this stuff, could you explain what this is supposed to mean? Is it "is" or is it just "total nonsense"? And please, give it to me straight—no bureaucratic jargon allowed.
Henry Edwards33 Henry Edwards33 RegularOP
678 messages
joined Aug 2015
#1436 ·
It works like this—capital gains aren't taxed, but if we happen to make a little "clerical error," someone ends up paying the tax bill and we walk away looking like geniuses. :trlja ruke:

I just moved everything into a specific account and left it there for the year. ☕
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#1437 ·
Henry Edwards33 said:It works like this—capital gains aren't taxed, but if we happen to make a little "clerical error," someone ends up paying the tax bill and we walk away looking like geniuses. :trlja ruke:

I just moved everything into a specific account and left it there for the year. ☕

I think I followed what you meant by moving things to a "specific account"—I’m with you there. But as for going on vacation? Yeah, sure, if staying home counts as traveling. Not really, though.

But seriously, what does all this actually boil down to? Between the 20% tax and that extra 12% cut at payout... is this just a massive tax on fools? Or, you know, the classic question: who are we even working for at this point??
amberdrifter14 amberdrifter14 Member
44 messages
joined Dec 2013
#1438 ·
Jessica Grant56 said:I think I followed what you meant by moving things to a "specific account"—I’m with you there. But as for going on vacation? Yeah, sure, if staying home counts as traveling. Not really, though.

But seriously, what does all this actually boil down to? Between the 20% tax and that extra 12% cut at payout... is this just a massive tax on fools? Or, you know, the classic question: who are we even working for at this point??

Then there is the matter of adding a 25% sales tax on top of what you actually receive, which you then hand straight over to the Treasury the moment you attempt to spend it...
Richard Howard55 Richard Howard55 Regular
251 messages
joined Aug 2015
#1439 ·
The Supreme Court has struck down those tax law provisions again—the ones covering the 2005-2012 period.
Get in here, Jessica Grant56!!!!
Jessica Grant56 Jessica Grant56 Regular
311 messages
joined Dec 2011
#1440 ·
Richard Howard55 said:The Supreme Court has struck down those tax law provisions again—the ones covering the 2005-2012 period.
Get in here, Jessica Grant56!!!!

Richard, look—I try to wade through all these legal texts myself, but honestly, I lose interest fast. Plus, if I don't have three or four cold drinks while sitting outside in 45-degree weather, my brain just shuts down. (And no, coffee doesn't cut it—too much water involved). After the fourth drink, I'm useless anyway, so I usually just head out. I go lie down horizontally for a bit to cool off and clear my head. For instance, I'll be thinking about how one is supposed to eat on a pension... basically just grazing in the yard.

Give me a break here—you know you have to explain things to me three times before it sticks. Can you break down what the court actually decided?
Is it that we *do* have to pay (meaning we *don't*) this tax?!? Which one? Is it Sales Tax?? Like 20% plus that ridiculous extra: where they tack on an additional 12% once you pull some money up? Is that Linić's doing?? I've got a tiny bit coming in, and I didn't want to increase that measly amount just to hand more over to the government and Linić—I'm absolutely not giving them that extra 12%. They've already taken enough from me.

Thanks in advance.

Oh, and one more thing: how much of a circus is this forum lately?? Nadan is wandering around San Francisco, looking for some lion to take him down for his latest stunt. It’s pure madness. Total absurdity.

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