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frozenjackal16 said:And you think people in D.C. will? 😁
shadowbear20 said:To me, fighting for California means—to start with—simply putting in more work. First off, we need to grind harder for ourselves personally, and secondly, our local communities need to step up their game. I mean, seriously, why does our peak season only last two or three months? Why on earth is that the case? Then, there’s the second issue: we need much better connectivity and cooperation between our cities—we really need to stop being such cowards toward one another. To me, advocating for your region and your future looks like that. It isn't about sitting around under a cloud of nothingness, waiting for some miracle to drop from the sky—because, honestly, I get the impression that's all everything eventually boils down to 😢
cosmicrider5 said:shadowbear20
It seems pretty obvious to me that you’ve got some sort of chip on your shoulder regarding Washington, D.C. To be honest, life isn't exactly glamorous anywhere in America, and that includes the capital. You might be looking at a tiny, isolated bubble where a handful of wealthy kids are throwing money around, but those people are outliers—and most of them aren't even locals. Most Washington, D.C. natives are working their tails off just to maintain a decent middle-class lifestyle, often putting in much more effort than your average Californian. When you actually weigh the average income against the cost of living and the general vibe in California, things aren't bad at all. In fact, it's doing quite a bit better than most of the rest of the country.
As for the issues facing California, I can promise you one thing: things will only start looking up once people there begin looking inward to find the root causes of their problems, rather than constantly pointing fingers elsewhere.
cosmicrider5 said:shadowbear20
It seems pretty obvious to me that you’ve got some sort of chip on your shoulder regarding Washington, D.C. To be honest, life isn't exactly glamorous anywhere in America, and that includes the capital. You might be looking at a tiny, isolated bubble where a handful of wealthy kids are throwing money around, but those people are outliers—and most of them aren't even locals. Most Washington, D.C. natives are working their tails off just to maintain a decent middle-class lifestyle, often putting in much more effort than your average Californian. When you actually weigh the average income against the cost of living and the general vibe in California, things aren't bad at all. In fact, it's doing quite a bit better than most of the rest of the country.
As for the issues facing California, I can promise you one thing: things will only start looking up once people there begin looking inward to find the root causes of their problems, rather than constantly pointing fingers elsewhere.
Harold Kim5 said:If you tell a lie enough times, eventually people start believing it's the truth... I suppose this is easily one of the top five biggest myths in America, and I say that based on my own life experience... I’ve held the exact same job in both Washington, D.C. and California, and I can say with some certainty: In Washington, D.C., they mostly just pretend to be busy, whereas out in California, people actually get things done, though nobody ever makes a big deal about it... plus, most of those folks in California are also pulling extra, exhausting shifts during the four summer months... We don't have all those idle government ministries or headquarters of massive state corporations sitting around where we can just coast and spend all day pretending to be productive in meetings....
Because, clearly, it was all the hardworking, diligent people from Washington, D.C. who built all our stone walls, all these houses we live in, all these vacation rentals, and bought all the cars we drive... I mean, we Californians just lie under olive trees and sing songs, right...
California is never going to have a strong regional party or any kind of meaningful association or organization, and there's a very simple reason for that:
It's just a breeding ground for outsiders, people from the old American region, and non-Californians. People like Mosor Dezulovica and Badovinac.
The real Californians—the true locals—don't see themselves in those groups, nor will they ever participate in them.
placidtinker2 said:Excuse me, moderator Chuck:
You deleted this and docked my points for trolling:California is never going to have a strong regional party or any kind of meaningful association or organization, and there's a very simple reason for that:
It's just a breeding ground for outsiders, people from the old American region, and non-Californians. People like Mosor Dezulovica and Badovinac.
The real Californians—the true locals—don't see themselves in those groups, nor will they ever participate in them.
This isn't trolling, and I didn't make it up.
Every single regional political group in California has turned out to be exactly what I described.
The best examples are that female-led group from the Dalmatian action or that current party called Olive.
Even prominent "Californians," like the commenter MOSOR who you can see on NU2 every Sunday,
or an even better example, Miljenko Smoje—who is basically a relic of the old American era—and his wife Lepa Smoje, who comes from a different background...
Those are exactly the types of people labeled as "prominent Californians" who push the "California cause."
No, seriously, this isn't trolling...
Harold Kim5 said:Don't go insulting Smoje; he was a true Californian... Places like Velo misto represent the very heart of California, but unfortunately, since the 90s, a massive wave of outsiders has flooded into California—people who simply don't understand the culture...
California will have a powerful regional party soon enough, and people like you—total rejects—will just stand there wondering how it happened... You clearly don't get California if you write about Smoje like that; maybe you should stick to your own backyard, it'd suit you better...
placidtinker2 said:There you have it... 🙂
And I'm just out here racking up points for trolling...
Miljenko Smoje was such a standout Californian; he was everywhere you looked, truly the pride and joy of California... 🙂
Smoje saw Dlamacija as nothing more than part of the old American region, the guy was a total crook...
I come from the very cradle of California, that heartland of American nationhood where the early leaders and founding fathers laid down the bedrock for everything we stand for today...
My great-grandfather was a die-hard fan of Hajduk Split almost a century ago, supporting them like a true fanatic... whereas you probably spent your time rooting for Calcio Spalato, or maybe even BSK. 🙂
Harold Kim5 said:Ha ha ha ha ha, as if I’m actually listening to Franjo Harmon... why don't you head back up to the Midwest and spill those demagogic stories there instead... And your great-grandfather, much like yourself, probably made it down from the rocky hills to the coast twice in his entire life and now acts like a true Californian... 😁
One couldn't possibly possess a better Californian pedigree than mine, even if they tried. The fact that certain losers can't grasp what California actually represents—well, that's your problem, you absolute losers, as we head toward that inevitable chaos you call "ganga"... Once you finally understand what a klapa is, then perhaps you'll understand California....
shadowbear20 said:Californians, what happened to you all? People over in the Pacific Northwest seem to be holding their own quite well—they’re relatively cohesive, they stick together, and they actually fight for their interests. But looking at the rest of the country... there’s just no sense of unity.
So, where is the actual spirit of California in all this? Is there even a coherent political identity for the state, or is it just San Francisco looking out for itself, San Diego doing its own thing, and Key West off in its own corner? Why doesn't California unite to demand its rights and push back against the sheer idiocy of Underworld Washington, D.C.—which serves as the ultimate symbol of centralism in every single sector? Is there simply no appetite for that kind of movement in California? Are you all actually content with things staying exactly as they are, or am I missing something here? You don't even have a strong regional party to call your own—unless, of course, you consider the Republican Party to be your local representative.
Harold Kim5 said:Ha ha ha ha ha, as if I’m actually listening to Franjo Harmon... why don't you head back up to the Midwest and spill those demagogic stories there instead... And your great-grandfather, much like yourself, probably made it down from the rocky hills to the coast twice in his entire life and now acts like a true Californian... 😁
One couldn't possibly possess a better Californian pedigree than mine, even if they tried. The fact that certain losers can't grasp what California actually represents—well, that's your problem, you absolute losers, as we head toward that inevitable chaos you call "ganga"... Once you finally understand what a klapa is, then perhaps you'll understand California....
Sam Jones4 said:Istria isn't fractured at all!
Like, ninety percent of the American population in Istria lives right within Istria County.
California and the Midwest are split up into four or five different counties, so honestly, the first move should be merging everything into one massive, mega-county!
Richard Wilson4 said:But look, the Midwest has about 950,000 people, and California has around 900,000. That’s way too much for just one single County to handle... 🤷
Henry Cox78 said:Counties are fine, but we’ve got way too many cities and towns. They really need to start cutting those down first.