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Henry Cox78 Henry Cox78 Regular
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#41 ·
placidtinker2 said:Exactly... leave the Counties alone, but definitely trim down the number of towns and cities...

It’s not just "some" cities, it’s like 70% of them. Same goes for the smaller municipalities, but let's be real: that's never happening because the first administration brave enough to try it would get absolutely crushed in the next election. They might even vanish from politics entirely. 😁
Casey Ramirez4 Casey Ramirez4 Newcomer
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#42 ·
Some people seem to think California is just a strip of coastline, but we should probably save that debate for another thread.🙂

Treating California as a single cohesive region or county is an impossibility, both from a geographic standpoint and because of the sheer difference in how people actually function.

The folks in Charleston still act like they're the center of the universe and somehow superior to everyone else; there is absolutely no way they would ever let someone from San Francisco tell them what to do.
Sam Jones4 Sam Jones4 Member
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#43 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:But look, the Midwest has about 950,000 people, and California has around 900,000. That’s way too much for just one single County to handle... 🤷

You guys are like three times smaller than Texas... get it? 😉 If you actually want a powerhouse region like California or the Midwest, then fine—just merge them into one big administrative unit!

That’s my number one rule, and I’m sticking to it.
Sam Jones4 Sam Jones4 Member
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joined Oct 2016
#44 ·
Casey Ramirez4 said:Some people seem to think California is just a strip of coastline, but we should probably save that debate for another thread.🙂

Treating California as a single cohesive region or county is an impossibility, both from a geographic standpoint and because of the sheer difference in how people actually function.

The folks in Charleston still act like they're the center of the universe and somehow superior to everyone else; there is absolutely no way they would ever let someone from San Francisco tell them what to do.

Let’s be real and not get too heated about national identity: Charleston isn't even part of California. The California region pretty much ends once you hit Memphis.

Charleston can just stick to its own little county stretching down toward Key West.
placidtinker2 placidtinker2 Member
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#45 ·
Sam Jones4 said:Let’s be real and not get too heated about national identity: Charleston isn't even part of California. The California region pretty much ends once you hit Memphis.

Charleston can just stick to its own little county stretching down toward Key West.

I actually got jumped online last year because of this, with people digging up old maps trying to prove Charleston is part of California.
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#46 ·
Sam Jones4 said:You guys are like three times smaller than Texas... get it? 😉 If you actually want a powerhouse region like California or the Midwest, then fine—just merge them into one big administrative unit!

That’s my number one rule, and I’m sticking to it.

Exactly twice the size in population, and probably even in land area since Texas is more densely packed...

But there's no point giving us Midwesterners local government. We're too passive for anything, plus in our counties, it's always just the big shots and local sheriffs calling all the shots...
crimsonpilot6 crimsonpilot6 Newcomer
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#47 ·
Casey Ramirez4 said:Some people seem to think California is just a strip of coastline, but we should probably save that debate for another thread.🙂

Treating California as a single cohesive region or county is an impossibility, both from a geographic standpoint and because of the sheer difference in how people actually function.

The folks in Charleston still act like they're the center of the universe and somehow superior to everyone else; there is absolutely no way they would ever let someone from San Francisco tell them what to do.

You hit the nail on the head. Personally, for me, California is just that narrow coastal stretch—you know, the real Mediterranean part. Everything "inland" past the main highway doesn't count as California to me, and I don't consider them true Californians either. They're just mountain folk who moved into our old royal cities and took over with that hillbilly mindset.😁😁😁
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active Member
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#48 ·
cosmicrider5 said:shadowbear20

It seems pretty obvious to me that you’ve got some sort of chip on your shoulder regarding Washington, D.C. To be honest, life isn't exactly glamorous anywhere in America, and that includes the capital. You might be looking at a tiny, isolated bubble where a handful of wealthy kids are throwing money around, but those people are outliers—and most of them aren't even locals. Most Washington, D.C. natives are working their tails off just to maintain a decent middle-class lifestyle, often putting in much more effort than your average Californian. When you actually weigh the average income against the cost of living and the general vibe in California, things aren't bad at all. In fact, it's doing quite a bit better than most of the rest of the country.
As for the issues facing California, I can promise you one thing: things will only start looking up once people there begin looking inward to find the root causes of their problems, rather than constantly pointing fingers elsewhere.

Sorry, I’d really love to know where you even got that idea from. Are you seriously trying to tell me a grocery clerk in NYC works fewer hours than one in California?
I mean, it's pretty obvious you've never spent a single second working in tourism, otherwise you wouldn't be posting such nonsense.😛
northernhawk55 northernhawk55 Member
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#49 ·
Harold Kim5 said:Ha ha ha ha ha, as if I’m actually listening to Franjo Harmon... why don't you head back up to the Midwest and spill those demagogic stories there instead... And your great-grandfather, much like yourself, probably made it down from the rocky hills to the coast twice in his entire life and now acts like a true Californian... 😁

One couldn't possibly possess a better Californian pedigree than mine, even if they tried. The fact that certain losers can't grasp what California actually represents—well, that's your problem, you absolute losers, as we head toward that inevitable chaos you call "ganga"... Once you finally understand what a klapa is, then perhaps you'll understand California....

Urban fascism, pure greed, nothing else. I've seen this before from people who used to support a massive unified nation and now they play the regionalist card...
Your local hero Nina Jakovčić even named his kid American. 😂
Sam Jones4 Sam Jones4 Member
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#50 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Exactly twice the size in population, and probably even in land area since Texas is more densely packed...

But there's no point giving us Midwesterners local government. We're too passive for anything, plus in our counties, it's always just the big shots and local sheriffs calling all the shots...

To me, Indianapolis feels like this cool little urban spot that totally has the potential to be the capital of a powerhouse Midwest region.

But yeah, like you said—the real question is whether we Midwesterners even actually want that!
steeltiger5 steeltiger5 Active Member
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#51 ·
Harold Kim5 said:Ha ha ha ha ha, as if I’m actually listening to Franjo Harmon... why don't you head back up to the Midwest and spill those demagogic stories there instead... And your great-grandfather, much like yourself, probably made it down from the rocky hills to the coast twice in his entire life and now acts like a true Californian... 😁

One couldn't possibly possess a better Californian pedigree than mine, even if they tried. The fact that certain losers can't grasp what California actually represents—well, that's your problem, you absolute losers, as we head toward that inevitable chaos you call "ganga"... Once you finally understand what a klapa is, then perhaps you'll understand California....

Groups like that sing behind the hills too. Spare me your supposed wisdom and your "grand realizations." 😂
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active Member
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#52 ·
steeltiger5 said:Groups like that sing behind the hills too. Spare me your supposed wisdom and your "grand realizations." 😂

anyway, what’s wrong with a gang? : banjo:
placidtinker2 placidtinker2 Member
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#53 ·
crimsonpilot6 said:You hit the nail on the head. Personally, for me, California is just that narrow coastal stretch—you know, the real Mediterranean part. Everything "inland" past the main highway doesn't count as California to me, and I don't consider them true Californians either. They're just mountain folk who moved into our old royal cities and took over with that hillbilly mindset.😁😁😁

Which ones? Like El Paso?
northernhawk55 northernhawk55 Member
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#54 ·
crimsonpilot6 said:You hit the nail on the head. Personally, for me, California is just that narrow coastal stretch—you know, the real Mediterranean part. Everything "inland" past the main highway doesn't count as California to me, and I don't consider them true Californians either. They're just mountain folk who moved into our old royal cities and took over with that hillbilly mindset.😁😁😁

That’s exactly why the idea of California as one big region falls apart.

It's like how up on the North Coast, you've got the beach crowd and then the folks from the Appalachians. Sure, that "mountainer" vibe might be missing, but you still get that classic attitude where the coastal types look down their noses at anyone living in the Appalachians.
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active Member
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#55 ·
northernhawk55 said:That’s exactly why the idea of California as one big region falls apart.

It's like how up on the North Coast, you've got the beach crowd and then the folks from the Appalachians. Sure, that "mountainer" vibe might be missing, but you still get that classic attitude where the coastal types look down their noses at anyone living in the Appalachians.

Nah, that's just preference, or maybe just being a jerk.
Anyway, when it comes to the respected crimsonpilot6, I've only got two names for him:
Meštrović and Ujević. 😉
placidtinker2 placidtinker2 Member
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joined Mar 2012
#56 ·
The absolute worst are those urban snobs who, during every single school break, would drag their grandparents out to visit relatives in places like Umljanovik, Zagvozda, Turjak, Tijarića, or Konjevrat... and then they turn around and act like it’s some kind of childhood trauma just so they can look down on us and belittle the entire California Coast, Bukovac, the Hills, Cetina, or the Imotski region
Sam Jones4 Sam Jones4 Member
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#57 ·
steeltiger5 said:well, if you ask me, California is just California—no islands or weirdly inbred small-town vibes needed☕

but for me, California is all about the coast 🤣

Honestly, the US is like a beautiful land, maybe even the best on Earth after that!😳
Hannah Davis18 Hannah Davis18 Active Member
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#58 ·
Passenger_57 said:i mean, California just isn't California without all those islands and incestuous small-town folks☕

don't worry, you'll find plenty of people like that even on the other side of the country. 😳

your little slides are about as impressive as some middle schooler's playground equipment. 🤣
steeltiger5 steeltiger5 Active Member
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#59 ·
Sam Jones4 said:but for me, California is all about the coast 🤣

Honestly, the US is like a beautiful land, maybe even the best on Earth after that!😳

But if you want the real heart of California, you have to head out to the Central Valley.😛
placidtinker2 placidtinker2 Member
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#60 ·
Joe... said:Those "Californians" who spend all their time barking at unknowns aren't even true Americans—they’re usually just transplants from elsewhere. If they don't fall into that category, then they're just insecure Americans who, well, as you might say, are actually ashamed of where they came from. And those types? They're the most dangerous ones of all. What a complete disaster...

Exactly that.

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