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Nicholas Allen2 Nicholas Allen2 Newcomer
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#181 ·
Jason Booth25 said:If we actually had the answer to that, the world would be pretty much a perfect place. When it comes to crime prevention and stopping the descent into monstrosity, I suspect we'll only see progress through slow, incremental steps.
Some potential ways to stop people from becoming monsters—and to reduce physical, psychological, and sexual abuse within families, among peers at school, or even by colleagues in the workplace—would start with the home. It would be a massive win if we could focus on the family unit and ensure kids have a healthy childhood, since those early years are so foundational to who they become. Most people lacking empathy or suffering from deep-seated issues likely wouldn't have ended up that way if they hadn't experienced horrors themselves, though there are certainly exceptions. But honestly, putting those solutions into practice? That's the hard part.

Difficult, but worth the effort. You can't help everyone or prevent everything, but providing comfort, support, understanding, and protection is worth it.

Jason Booth25 said:Of course, we need to implement much harsher penalties for the most heinous crimes. For some people, the sheer fear of consequences is the only thing that actually acts as a deterrent. It’s a necessity. But the problem we see here is the inconsistency—we have people getting hit with massive sentences for something as minor as a little marijuana, while actual monsters are out on parole after just a few years. That simply isn't right.

Agreed. If their conscience won't stop them, the law should.
But then again, in this country, someone gets hit hard for a little weed, while actual monsters are released after just a few years. It’s not right...

That concerns me too. Not just because of certain closed cases, but because of how the legal system communicates what it protects and what it punishes. No wonder there's so much widespread resentment and anger.
Jason Booth25 Jason Booth25 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#182 ·
Nicholas Allen2, I completely agree with you—it’s definitely worth giving this a shot.
placidwolf27 placidwolf27 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#183 ·
Well, strictly punishing such acts would merely drive them underground—forcing everything into the shadows. That might seem like a win, I suppose, only insofar as it prevents people from witnessing it and keeps the rest of the population from participating... effectively reducing it to a non-event rather than a societal issue.

In fact, that’s exactly what happens with many similar phenomena—for those very reasons...

It doesn't necessarily mean these things would happen significantly less often; it just limits the opportunity for them to occur more frequently...
Nicholas Allen2 Nicholas Allen2 Newcomer
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#184 ·
Jason Booth25 said:Nicholas Allen2, I completely agree with you—it’s definitely worth giving this a shot.

Sometimes, the most unsettling thought is the sheer pointlessness of it all. I worry about facing that same fate—becoming a monster myself. Do you ever feel that fear?
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#185 ·
Jason Booth25 said:Of course, we need to implement much harsher penalties for the most heinous crimes. For some people, the sheer fear of consequences is the only thing that actually acts as a deterrent. It’s a necessity. But the problem we see here is the inconsistency—we have people getting hit with massive sentences for something as minor as a little marijuana, while actual monsters are out on parole after just a few years. That simply isn't right.

Life sentences without the possibility of parole are the only logical path forward. Back in the day, during the war, people committed absolute atrocities and were only handed ten-year sentences. To me, that’s the definition of insanity.

As for corporal punishment, it's a total joke. Not only is it criminal behavior in itself, but it doesn't actually guarantee anything. All it does is push the initial crime further underground, where—lo and behold—it becomes even more brutal. Criminals just get better at hiding the evidence, and once you connect "hiding the evidence" with "organized crime," I think you'll see exactly where this leads.

Regarding marijuana: look, I am personally against its use, but I can't wait for the day it's decriminalized and treated as a minor infraction rather than a major offense. The way things are being handled right now is pure madness, and it opens the door to a whole host of dirty business that most people don't even realize is happening.
Rachel Jones10 Rachel Jones10 Newcomer
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#186 ·
placidjackal36 said:If we end up at war with the Mexicans again, are you planning on gouging their eyes out and ripping out their tongues?

You aren't being funny. Not even a little bit.

That comparison of yours misses the mark entirely.
Who can truly say why someone finds themselves on the front lines? Perhaps it’s simply due to a mandatory draft order...
And in that truck he mentioned earlier, it wasn't Mexicans being tormented; it was civilians from a city like Tampa and some reservists who just happened to be caught in the crossfire—people caught in a situation they didn't choose. This individual, however, went out of his way to torture a living creature for no reason whatsoever.
Morgan Bishop4 Morgan Bishop4 Active Member
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#187 ·
It’s honestly wild how people will call someone a complete monster just for being cruel to a dog or a cat, yet they don't give a second thought to politicians who drag millions of people into total ruin through endless wars, or those reckless, drunk parents who completely neglect their kids and leave them with lifelong psychological scars... or maybe it’s just me... it feels like people have way more empathy for animals than they do for actual human beings...

And what about all the pigs and chickens that get slaughtered every single day just to end up on our dinner plates? Or the little rabbits and monkeys used in those cosmetic tests for the products sitting in your bathroom right now? Nobody seems to view that as "cruelty"... buying stuff like that is perfectly fine and totally moral, apparently...

I'm not trying to defend anyone, per se, but the double standards are just glaring...
placidjackal36 placidjackal36 Active Member
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#188 ·
Rachel Jones10 said:That comparison of yours misses the mark entirely.
Who can truly say why someone finds themselves on the front lines? Perhaps it’s simply due to a mandatory draft order...
And in that truck he mentioned earlier, it wasn't Mexicans being tormented; it was civilians from a city like Tampa and some reservists who just happened to be caught in the crossfire—people caught in a situation they didn't choose. This individual, however, went out of his way to torture a living creature for no reason whatsoever.

Yeah, sure. Maybe do a little reading before you talk; you might learn something.

Besides, what does it matter who was there and who wasn't? Are you trying to suggest that a crime against one group is somehow less serious than a crime against another?

A lot of people ended up meeting their end at the hands of monsters who still walk those streets today—people who weren't provoked by anything. That isn't exactly a valid argument.

Morgan Bishop4 said:It’s honestly wild how people will call someone a complete monster just for being cruel to a dog or a cat, yet they don't give a second thought to politicians who drag millions of people into total ruin through endless wars, or those reckless, drunk parents who completely neglect their kids and leave them with lifelong psychological scars... or maybe it’s just me... it feels like people have way more empathy for animals than they do for actual human beings...

And what about all the pigs and chickens that get slaughtered every single day just to end up on our dinner plates? Or the little rabbits and monkeys used in those cosmetic tests for the products sitting in your bathroom right now? Nobody seems to view that as "cruelty"... buying stuff like that is perfectly fine and totally moral, apparently...

I'm not trying to defend anyone, per se, but the double standards are just glaring...

Of course there are double standards. It’s honestly disturbing when you see people who act totally normal on this forum but reveal a warped mindset the moment you start questioning them. There is a massive amount of hypocrisy here.
I don't have a problem with minor hypocrites—we're all human and nobody is a perfect moral compass—but when someone starts trying to justify crimes against humanity, brutal murders, rapes, or persecutions, it’s only natural to feel sickened.

Fortunately, we have forum rules to shut that nonsense down. Unfortunately, rules are useless if nobody actually enforces them. A rule on paper means nothing if no one bothers to read it.
Jason Booth25 Jason Booth25 Member
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joined Feb 2010
#189 ·
Nicholas Allen2 said:Sometimes, the most unsettling thought is the sheer pointlessness of it all. I worry about facing that same fate—becoming a monster myself. Do you ever feel that fear?

I don't fear that at all. Why does it weigh on you like that?
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 Regular
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joined Aug 2007
#190 ·
placidjackal36 said:Life sentences without the possibility of parole are the only logical path forward. Back in the day, during the war, people committed absolute atrocities and were only handed ten-year sentences. To me, that’s the definition of insanity.

As for corporal punishment, it's a total joke. Not only is it criminal behavior in itself, but it doesn't actually guarantee anything. All it does is push the initial crime further underground, where—lo and behold—it becomes even more brutal. Criminals just get better at hiding the evidence, and once you connect "hiding the evidence" with "organized crime," I think you'll see exactly where this leads.

Regarding marijuana: look, I am personally against its use, but I can't wait for the day it's decriminalized and treated as a minor infraction rather than a major offense. The way things are being handled right now is pure madness, and it opens the door to a whole host of dirty business that most people don't even realize is happening.

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casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active Member
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#191 ·
... is anyone actually trying to justify this, or are we just glorifying a crime here? 😬
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 Regular
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#192 ·
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casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active Member
168 messages
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#193 ·
... I'm not... I guess I am still a bit of a legalist...
mistyseal11 mistyseal11 Regular
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#194 ·
casualharbor9 said:... I'm not... I guess I am still a bit of a legalist...

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casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active Member
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#195 ·
... honestly... I still think Dreletronic does it better than anyone else hehe...
feralbear262 feralbear262 Newcomer
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#196 ·
Let’s be realistic here: attacking an animal isn't a criminal offense, whereas even just using the term "assault" when referring to a human being is considered verbal harassment.🙂

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