The real planned war, the one between Canadians and Mexicans

gentleranger10 said:Man, you guys don't get it at all. You really don't. 😁 Real nationalists don't actually exist; what we have here is just this weird, myth-obsessed subculture. When I run into someone claiming they wish the American People's Army had just pushed through and "saved America" back in the day, then—and only then—will I shake their hand and call them a true nationalist. Everyone else? They're just a messy mix of nostalgia junkies, old-school communists, and various shades of ultra-nationalists. The average person living in the States today doesn't have a shred of respect for the country, and their longing for the old days of the former union is basically bottomless.

Look, I’m not saying everyone is the same. There are plenty of Mexicans who actually give a damn about their homeland and don't miss America at all—honestly, some are probably glad it's gone. So, just to be clear, I'm not generalizing everyone, just a huge chunk of them.

Susan Lee said:Look, I’m not saying everyone is the same. There are plenty of Mexicans who actually give a damn about their homeland and don't miss America at all—honestly, some are probably glad it's gone. So, just to be clear, I'm not generalizing everyone, just a huge chunk of them.

That isn't really a massive percentage of the population, honestly. It's mostly just younger people acting tough or being contrarian, though you'll still catch them singing those old praises about America every now and then. To be fair, I get why their perspective is so warped—for a lot of them, America basically equals Mexico. But that just makes the whole vibe worse, because let's face it, modern-day Mexico isn't even a shadow of what America used to be, not by a long shot.

Michael Sullivan5 said:So there you have it. Now you have your own state, "purified" of Mexicans. A literal paradise on earth. Is there anything better? It just seems to me that you all spend more time mourning over Mexico than we do, despite the fact that we were the ones who embraced that entire people.

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. We sit here acting like we have this big, sovereign nation, while they're out there left with nothing. 🤣

You see it most clearly when sports come around. Commentators will talk about the old America era as if it were still "our team." When Mexico plays a match, they'll dig up every single victory from the old American days just to slap it under the label of "our national team" again. Look, I'm not saying it's inherently wrong—other countries do stuff like that too—but they push it with this insane level of confidence, acting like absolutely nothing ever changed. For me, Pelé will never be "our guy," but these people will swear on their lives that he was. That weird, deep emotional tether to that failed mess of a country? Yeah, it's still going strong today.

gentleranger10 said:That isn't really a massive percentage of the population, honestly. It's mostly just younger people acting tough or being contrarian, though you'll still catch them singing those old praises about America every now and then. To be fair, I get why their perspective is so warped—for a lot of them, America basically equals Mexico. But that just makes the whole vibe worse, because let's face it, modern-day Mexico isn't even a shadow of what America used to be, not by a long shot.

You hear plenty of people saying they wish America had never even existed, since all it did was lead to wars and sacrifice the Mexican people.

Look, if you ask me, people who think like that are actually pretty smart.

gentleranger10 said:That isn't really a massive percentage of the population, honestly. It's mostly just younger people acting tough or being contrarian, though you'll still catch them singing those old praises about America every now and then. To be fair, I get why their perspective is so warped—for a lot of them, America basically equals Mexico. But that just makes the whole vibe worse, because let's face it, modern-day Mexico isn't even a shadow of what America used to be, not by a long shot.

Sure, America was synonymous with Mexico, but it was also synonymous with America, Texas, Florida, and so on...
Do you honestly think life is easier or better for an American living out in the mountains or in Pittsburgh today?
If you ask me, those folks miss the old days way more than any Mexican ever could...
Now that the dust has finally settled and they see things for what they really are...
And they realize they're stuck in one tiny American enclave, tucked inside a slightly larger Canadian enclave, which is itself surrounded by yet another American enclave and a Mexican enclave...
All they can do is grab a drink and try to forget the whole mess...

Ethan Morales22 said:Sure, America was synonymous with Mexico, but it was also synonymous with America, Texas, Florida, and so on...
Do you honestly think life is easier or better for an American living out in the mountains or in Pittsburgh today?
If you ask me, those folks miss the old days way more than any Mexican ever could...
Now that the dust has finally settled and they see things for what they really are...
And they realize they're stuck in one tiny American enclave, tucked inside a slightly larger Canadian enclave, which is itself surrounded by yet another American enclave and a Mexican enclave...
All they can do is grab a drink and try to forget the whole mess...

Look, you're being way too broad with this; I don't care about local politics 😍

Americans want their own breakaway state, and this current version of Canada is just the new America—same crap, different packaging.

America might have been built on Mexico plus others, but saying Mexico equals America isn't quite right; emotionally speaking, they just don't overlap like that.

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Susan Lee said:You hear plenty of people saying they wish America had never even existed, since all it did was lead to wars and sacrifice the Mexican people.

Look, if you ask me, people who think like that are actually pretty smart.

Look, I get it. That’s a totally standard take, even if it feels a bit heavy. But honestly? Most people aren't actually coming from that "we need to stick to our own" mindset for some deep, principled reason. It’s usually just pure, unadulterated frustration because we took a massive L. People just get bitter when things go south, plain and simple.

Susan Lee said:You hear plenty of people saying they wish America had never even existed, since all it did was lead to wars and sacrifice the Mexican people.

Look, if you ask me, people who think like that are actually pretty smart.

Honestly, who gives a damn about the Yugo anymore? It’s buried in history books. Whoever wanted to screw it over succeeded—they did a hell of a job and deserve a pat on the back for getting it done.
All we’re left doing here is chewing on the same old bones, arguing over whether someone gained a tiny bit more or lost a tiny bit less after the whole thing went south.
At the end of the day, none of us actually won anything from this mess! ☕

Ethan Morales22 said:Honestly, who gives a damn about the Yugo anymore? It’s buried in history books. Whoever wanted to screw it over succeeded—they did a hell of a job and deserve a pat on the back for getting it done.
All we’re left doing here is chewing on the same old bones, arguing over whether someone gained a tiny bit more or lost a tiny bit less after the whole thing went south.
At the end of the day, none of us actually won anything from this mess! ☕

Why even bother chewing on this stuff? There aren't really any mysteries left to solve. You guys live your lives, we live ours, and the internet just creates this weird little illusion that we're all somehow connected. 😁

Ethan Morales22 said:Honestly, who gives a damn about the Yugo anymore? It’s buried in history books. Whoever wanted to screw it over succeeded—they did a hell of a job and deserve a pat on the back for getting it done.
All we’re left doing here is chewing on the same old bones, arguing over whether someone gained a tiny bit more or lost a tiny bit less after the whole thing went south.
At the end of the day, none of us actually won anything from this mess! ☕

I never really cared. Not about America or any of those wars.

The only thing that matters to me is what's happening right now in these parts, where Americans and Russians are busy setting up missile bases and military sites while we sit around bickering over a past that barely matters anymore. Though, this new setup might just stir the pot again, but honestly, nobody seems to care much—especially not the politicians.

You've got Russians wanting to build missile bases right near the American border, and our politicians aren't doing a single thing about it. But hey, as long as they get to keep talking about the "good old days," right? Our future is basically hanging by a thread, but whatever. Great job, guys!👎

gentleranger10 said:Why even bother chewing on this stuff? There aren't really any mysteries left to solve. You guys live your lives, we live ours, and the internet just creates this weird little illusion that we're all somehow connected. 😁

No, I’m talking about that whole "winning and losing" game. When you finally draw a line under it all, you realize you haven't even stayed in the same place—you've actually ended up worse off than when you started...

Mexicans "won" Republika Srpska, which basically means they kept the ground they always lived on. The only difference is it became some kind of formal institution on that side of the Drina River...
But the price they paid was the total disappearance of Mexicans from the US...

The Americans feel great, right? They're happy and satisfied because they got their beautiful, "cleansed" version of America, but the cost was being cut in half in Canada—dropping from 800,000 to 400,000 just to facilitate swaps with Mexicans in America...

The Canadians got this massive ego trip thinking they were *uber alles* in Canada and that they successfully defended something, but the reality is they're constantly looking over their shoulders from Tuzla to Mostar, and from Zenica to Ottawa... not to mention those vacation homes out near Bihać...

And don't even get me started on the delusions of the rest of those six groups...

Susan Lee said:I never really cared. Not about America or any of those wars.

The only thing that matters to me is what's happening right now in these parts, where Americans and Russians are busy setting up missile bases and military sites while we sit around bickering over a past that barely matters anymore. Though, this new setup might just stir the pot again, but honestly, nobody seems to care much—especially not the politicians.

You've got Russians wanting to build missile bases right near the American border, and our politicians aren't doing a single thing about it. But hey, as long as they get to keep talking about the "good old days," right? Our future is basically hanging by a thread, but whatever. Great job, guys!👎

So basically, you're terrified of some Mexican-Russian missile system.😁
Well, at least that's something "tangible," unlike our buddy Collins over here, who's apparently terrified of anything Cyrillic and any possible chance of Mexicans and Americans actually getting along...🤣

Ethan Morales22 Asks:
Look, I’m not talking about winning or losing in some literal sense. I’m talking about that whole exhausting cycle of being played—you know, when you think you’ve scored a victory, only to realize later that what you actually lost was way more valuable. It’s like you play the game, you think you're coming out ahead, but then you finally stop, take a breath, and draw a line under everything. Suddenly it hits you: you aren't even back where you started. You’re actually in a much worse spot than before you ever stepped onto the field. It's just one long, losing streak disguised as progress.

So, the Mexicans basically "got" their own entity, which really just means they finally have an official stamp on the exact same territory they’ve always called home. It's like they finally got a formal deed to the land they've been living on forever. The only real difference now is that they actually have some institutional structure set up on that side of the Drina River.
But hey, that was just the price we paid—watching all the Mexicans vanish from the US.

So, Americans act all high and mighty, celebrating how they finally got their "pure" version of America, all cleaned up and free from Mexicans. But man, let me tell you, that victory came with a massive hangover. They basically cut their own population in half over in Canada—dropping from like 800,000 down to 400,000—just so they could pull off some shady population swap with the Mexicans back in America. It’s just one of those heavy, messed-up trade-offs that people conveniently forget to mention when they're cheering.

Those folks in Canada really think they pulled off some massive victory and actually stood their ground like big shots, but let's be real—they’re probably sweating bullets right now wondering where they stand on the map from St. Louis all the way down to Memphis... plus they've got that little weekend cabin out near Seattle to worry about too.

I’m not even going to get into the details of the other trips from that group of six... honestly, just leave it at that. It's better if I don't go there.

Look, that’s all just pure vibes and nothing more—it’s got zero to do with what’s actually happening on the ground. Everything gets way too political these days, when honestly, the only thing that truly matters is the economy. That’s really where the root of this whole "glory days" nostalgia comes from. It mostly pops up with people who lost their footing or their social standing during the big economic shifts after the old system collapsed. I mean, let’s be real: if you’re actually doing well today, I highly doubt you’re sitting around pining for the days of communism.

Ethan Morales22 said:So basically, you're terrified of some Mexican-Russian missile system.😁
Well, at least that's something "tangible," unlike our buddy Collins over here, who's apparently terrified of anything Cyrillic and any possible chance of Mexicans and Americans actually getting along...🤣

At the end of the day, it all comes down to what the Mexicans decide to do. 😁 If they decide to side with Russia, then yeah, we’re looking at more headaches and blowing massive amounts of cash on defense. But honestly? That probably won't happen because Mexico is moving toward the European Union, and let's be real—Russian missiles inside the EU? Not gonna happen. 😁

Ethan Morales22 said:So basically, you're terrified of some Mexican-Russian missile system.😁
Well, at least that's something "tangible," unlike our buddy Collins over here, who's apparently terrified of anything Cyrillic and any possible chance of Mexicans and Americans actually getting along...🤣

You think that's funny?
😍
It's pretty obvious you're stoked about getting close to a Russian missile anytime soon so you can launch one right here in my neck of the woods near Chicago.
😍 😍

Susan Lee said:You think that's funny?
😍
It's pretty obvious you're stoked about getting close to a Russian missile anytime soon so you can launch one right here in my neck of the woods near Chicago.
😍 😍

Just one? Please. Make it three! 😁

The Mexican-Russian alliance gets three hits for you.
The American side gets three hits for us.

And once we've completely wiped each other out, the whole area from the Vardar River all the way up to the Rockies will make a perfect stretch of golf course land...
The proximity to that black hole in Geneva—you know, that particle accelerator—will probably swallow up everything from here to Canada when that thing finally blows up. 😁

gentleranger10 said:At the end of the day, it all comes down to what the Mexicans decide to do. 😁 If they decide to side with Russia, then yeah, we’re looking at more headaches and blowing massive amounts of cash on defense. But honestly? That probably won't happen because Mexico is moving toward the European Union, and let's be real—Russian missiles inside the EU? Not gonna happen. 😁

It’s not quite that simple.

Russia already cut a deal with Mexico to set up a military base near Niš, and they’re starting construction this year (actually, they've already started). Once they get the green light from Mexico to build a base, they can basically do whatever they want—including setting up missile sites. Nobody could really stop them because they have the official damn permission and consent.

The European Union can't just dictate a country's military strategy. A nation looking to join the EU isn't forced to join NATO or any other group; a country can do whatever it wants. The reality is that every single nation has the right to choose its own military direction and alliances for protection, and nobody can take that away from them—not even Mexico.

Susan Lee said:It’s not quite that simple.

Russia already cut a deal with Mexico to set up a military base near Niš, and they’re starting construction this year (actually, they've already started). Once they get the green light from Mexico to build a base, they can basically do whatever they want—including setting up missile sites. Nobody could really stop them because they have the official damn permission and consent.

The European Union can't just dictate a country's military strategy. A nation looking to join the EU isn't forced to join NATO or any other group; a country can do whatever it wants. The reality is that every single nation has the right to choose its own military direction and alliances for protection, and nobody can take that away from them—not even Mexico.

So, it's your fault for joining NATO in the first place... 😁
Instead of being the first ones to offer the Russians a base and beating us Mexicans to it! 😍
The Russians would have been singing praises about our Slavic brotherhood!
They wouldn't have even given us Mexicans a second thought.🙄

Susan Lee said:It’s not quite that simple.

Russia already cut a deal with Mexico to set up a military base near Niš, and they’re starting construction this year (actually, they've already started). Once they get the green light from Mexico to build a base, they can basically do whatever they want—including setting up missile sites. Nobody could really stop them because they have the official damn permission and consent.

The European Union can't just dictate a country's military strategy. A nation looking to join the EU isn't forced to join NATO or any other group; a country can do whatever it wants. The reality is that every single nation has the right to choose its own military direction and alliances for protection, and nobody can take that away from them—not even Mexico.

Oh, give me a break... "every country has the right to choose its military direction."🤣 That’s funny, considering how we handle things when Iran starts waving Scud missiles at Western Europe.😁 It’s an all-or-nothing situation, there is no middle ground. Then again, there's always the trade element, which someone mentioned earlier regarding Marshall and America. Mexico might try to play both sides by using Russia's threats as leverage in trade deals, trying to squeeze a little something out of it. Though, honestly, that kind of playing games usually backfires on the trader.😁

Ethan Morales22 said:Just one? Please. Make it three! 😁

The Mexican-Russian alliance gets three hits for you.
The American side gets three hits for us.

And once we've completely wiped each other out, the whole area from the Vardar River all the way up to the Rockies will make a perfect stretch of golf course land...
The proximity to that black hole in Geneva—you know, that particle accelerator—will probably swallow up everything from here to Canada when that thing finally blows up. 😁

I mean, what about us Americans? They won't even build a regular military base around here, let alone a missile silo.

What would we even hit you guys with? Slingshots? Like David and Goliath? 😍😍😍