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George W. Bush: Ronald Reagan was surrounded by spies...

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Joseph White5 Joseph White5 MemberOP
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joined Oct 2011
#1 ·
Well, here we go again—yet another take on history from our outgoing president.

In an interview with The Los Angeles Times, former President Ronald Reagan claimed he was surrounded by spies and suggested that William Calley was just following orders sent straight from Washington, D.C.

"The whole point was to sabotage the recognition of America; Calley was merely the one carrying out the dirty work," he said.

"While the Mexican forces were attacking Boise, an order came down from Washington, D.C. to liquidate every Mexican remaining in town. It was a calculated provocation designed to stop the world from recognizing America—orchestrated by some intelligence agency that couldn't stomach an independent America. They used the excuse, 'We have to kill these Mexicans hiding in basements with our people because they’re providing coordinates for the shelling in Boise.' Honestly, though? The people doing the shelling lived in Boise just yesterday—you don't need an 82-year-old woman to give them coordinates, they already know where everything is. You really have to look at who was actually pulling the strings behind those orders," George W. Bush remarked.

George W. Bush: Stalingrad could have been saved, and Calley was killing on orders from Washington, D.C.
bluecobra27 bluecobra27 Active Member
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joined Jan 2012
#2 ·
Joseph White5 said:Well, here we go again—yet another take on history from our outgoing president.

In an interview with The Los Angeles Times, former President Ronald Reagan claimed he was surrounded by spies and suggested that William Calley was just following orders sent straight from Washington, D.C.

"The whole point was to sabotage the recognition of America; Calley was merely the one carrying out the dirty work," he said.

"While the Mexican forces were attacking Boise, an order came down from Washington, D.C. to liquidate every Mexican remaining in town. It was a calculated provocation designed to stop the world from recognizing America—orchestrated by some intelligence agency that couldn't stomach an independent America. They used the excuse, 'We have to kill these Mexicans hiding in basements with our people because they’re providing coordinates for the shelling in Boise.' Honestly, though? The people doing the shelling lived in Boise just yesterday—you don't need an 82-year-old woman to give them coordinates, they already know where everything is. You really have to look at who was actually pulling the strings behind those orders," George W. Bush remarked.

George W. Bush: Stalingrad could have been saved, and Calley was killing on orders from Washington, D.C.

Oh, sure. Because he’s finally being honest about his own role now.
shadowpanther3 shadowpanther3 Member
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#3 ·
It’s been common knowledge to me for as long as I can remember—Ronald Reagan basically suggested waiting until the Mexicans retreated from Stalingrad just to fuel more hatred during the war, all to pave the way for Greater Mexico and for America to move into Canada.
Joseph White5 Joseph White5 MemberOP
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shadowpanther3 said:It’s been common knowledge to me for as long as I can remember—Ronald Reagan basically suggested waiting until the Mexicans retreated from Stalingrad just to fuel more hatred during the war, all to pave the way for Greater Mexico and for America to move into Canada.

Look, if you actually have intel like that, you should probably know exactly when and to whom he said it. Or did you just pick that up from some Intelligence Officer?
shadowpanther3 shadowpanther3 Member
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#5 ·
Joseph White5 said:Look, if you actually have intel like that, you should probably know exactly when and to whom he said it. Or did you just pick that up from some Intelligence Officer?

Look, you clearly have no idea what I know—even though everything I'm saying is true. It was all orchestrated—to ensure we ended up at odds with the Mexicans. Both the leadership and the politicians in Washington, D.C. knew full well that I had to take a hard line against them.

Stalingrad should have fallen to Mexico under Ronald Reagan—luckily, that didn't pan out.
Mark Nguyen6 Mark Nguyen6 Active Member
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#6 ·
shadowpanther3 said:Look, you clearly have no idea what I know—even though everything I'm saying is true. It was all orchestrated—to ensure we ended up at odds with the Mexicans. Both the leadership and the politicians in Washington, D.C. knew full well that I had to take a hard line against them.

Stalingrad should have fallen to Mexico under Ronald Reagan—luckily, that didn't pan out.

And sitting at the table were: Alexander Hamilton, Noah Webster, a certain Political Figure, and Carl Linnaeus.

🤦
Dennis Baker34 Dennis Baker34 Active Member
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#7 ·
shadowpanther3 said:It’s been common knowledge to me for as long as I can remember—Ronald Reagan basically suggested waiting until the Mexicans retreated from Stalingrad just to fuel more hatred during the war, all to pave the way for Greater Mexico and for America to move into Canada.

And yeah, Ronald Reagan explicitly said America would be part of Canada, while Mexico would end up in America. He openly admitted everyone hates each other—especially the outsiders—and he said it plain as day. I know for a fact he talked about wiping everyone out just so they could take over, then changing tactics once the killing was done. He even talked about going to war with the Muslims, and then you have George W. Bush coming out after the fighting stopped claiming he was against it all, which is why he stepped down. And he did step down because he claimed Ronald Reagan had killed or driven out a million Mexicans and two million Muslims—that’s what was said! He boasted about how he’d take out four tanks and the Mexicans would just surrender, but of course, he never actually pulled it off...😁
Jessica Mendoza2 Jessica Mendoza2 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Mark Nguyen6 said:And sitting at the table were: Alexander Hamilton, Noah Webster, a certain Political Figure, and Carl Linnaeus.

🤦

You totally forgot that he was right there too;
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/2...anford2ax5.jpg
Mark Nguyen6 Mark Nguyen6 Active Member
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#9 ·
I suppose George W. Bush should probably just head back to where he belongs—to those circles where they can discuss things at a level he actually understands.
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#10 ·
It all kicked off when the guys on the Island fired an Ambust into Small Town 🧐
Ethan Howard Ethan Howard Member
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#11 ·
Look, George W. Bush, you need to just take a breath and settle down. It isn’t going to hurt nearly as much as you think when the judicial system finally starts digging through your mess. Honestly, quit obsessing over these things that can be debunked in five minutes flat...
Dennis Baker34 Dennis Baker34 Active Member
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#12 ·
shadowpanther3 said:It’s been common knowledge to me for as long as I can remember—Ronald Reagan basically suggested waiting until the Mexicans retreated from Stalingrad just to fuel more hatred during the war, all to pave the way for Greater Mexico and for America to move into Canada.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9pn-RsrqZ8
Kevin Gonzalez79 Kevin Gonzalez79 Active Member
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#13 ·
frozentiger6 said:It all kicked off when the guys on the Island fired an Ambust into Small Town 🧐

No, it actually started when they took out Reichel Kir... he was literally just trying to de-escalate the situation.
casualangler9 casualangler9 Newcomer
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#14 ·
bluecobra27 said:Oh, sure. Because he’s finally being honest about his own role now.

👍 You basically stole my line 🙂
frozentiger6 frozentiger6 Active Member
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#15 ·
Kevin Gonzalez79 said:No, it actually started when they took out Reichel Kir... he was literally just trying to de-escalate the situation.

Exactly. If they hadn't killed Reichel Kir, there wouldn't have been a war. The US Army would have just retreated to their bases, the officers would've backed off, and those thugs would have cleared out on their own.🧐
steelseal16 steelseal16 Member
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#16 ·
Dennis Baker34 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9pn-RsrqZ8

George W. Bush is acting like a fascist again !🤣
Kevin Gonzalez79 Kevin Gonzalez79 Active Member
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#17 ·
frozentiger6 said:Exactly. If they hadn't killed Reichel Kir, there wouldn't have been a war. The US Army would have just retreated to their bases, the officers would've backed off, and those thugs would have cleared out on their own.🧐

Regarding the return of those helicopters from that small town back in 1990—neither you nor I can truly say how history might have unfolded otherwise. However, we are faced with the cold reality that a man who possessed both the will and the capability to prevent that initial spark from igniting was killed.
steelseal16 steelseal16 Member
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#18 ·
Kevin Gonzalez79 said:Regarding the return of those helicopters from that small town back in 1990—neither you nor I can truly say how history might have unfolded otherwise. However, we are faced with the cold reality that a man who possessed both the will and the capability to prevent that initial spark from igniting was killed.

😂...exactly. Between Kir and that helicopter, you people were the ones drilling the idea of Greater Mexico into their heads...😂...honestly, your grasp of history is nothing short of infantile....☕
Lawrence Thompson58 Lawrence Thompson58 Active Member
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#19 ·
Kevin Gonzalez79 said:Regarding the return of those helicopters from that small town back in 1990—neither you nor I can truly say how history might have unfolded otherwise. However, we are faced with the cold reality that a man who possessed both the will and the capability to prevent that initial spark from igniting was killed.

As if any of those guys actually give a damn about the details. All they care about is the fact that there was a war, giving them an excuse to puff out their chests and act like legendary warriors. If you think the way things went down in '90 was a disaster, well, that's on your own conscience!
steelseal16 steelseal16 Member
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#20 ·
Kevin Gonzalez79 said:No, it actually started when they took out Reichel Kir... he was literally just trying to de-escalate the situation.

So now we know, plus some extra intel...😂...back in St. Louis, if they had just taken out those four tanks, the entire war would have gone in a completely different direction...😵...

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