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How do I stop letting other people's drama get to me?

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Emily Reyes7 Emily Reyes7 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
I am generally not the type of person to get worked up over someone else's personal drama if it doesn't impact my own life directly. I am more than happy to offer practical advice whenever I have the expertise to do so, but other people's struggles rarely pierce my emotional armor. Yet, for some reason, I find myself deeply unsettled by the problems of a certain friend.

The individual in question is someone I met online, living overseas. He is sixteen years old and dealing with severe family dysfunction. I honestly cannot wrap my head around why his domestic situation is hitting me this hard. It’s baffling; my own father’s issues at work or having a sick relative in the family don't provoke nearly this much internal turmoil. I have offered this friend an endless stream of guidance, but he refuses to take any meaningful action to improve his circumstances. Instead, he remains obsessively preoccupied with how his mother feels—a woman who, frankly, hasn't earned a shred of his sympathy. It feels as though he is some kind of masochist who finds a strange sort of comfort in his own suffering. I desperately want to wash my hands of the whole thing, but every time I picture the chaos in his household, I feel a surge of frustration.

Please, spare me the suggestions on what to advise him; based on everything I know about him, nothing I say will make a lick of difference. I am simply searching for the WHY. Why does the struggle of someone halfway across North America affect me so profoundly when it has absolutely zero bearing on my reality? How can I stop letting this get under my skin? How do I learn to view this situation with total detachment, as if it were some fictional tragedy that has nothing to do with me?

Thank you in advance.
Lawrence Sanchez10 Lawrence Sanchez10 Newcomer
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#2 ·
I honestly can’t say for sure. All I can think is that you might be projecting yourself onto this person... which would explain why you feel more empathy for them than for those closest to you.

The reality is that everyone carries their own baggage. If you’re going to take on someone else's struggles, it should at least be people in your own circle—people you actually have the agency to help.

It doesn't even have to be a sick relative; just someone where you can actually make a positive impact.
Otherwise, you're just going to burn yourself out.😵
And once you've hit that wall, you won't be much help to anyone.
neonbear6 neonbear6 Member
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joined Dec 2009
#3 ·
That’s unexpected. I was quite certain this was written by a woman.
Emily Reyes7 Emily Reyes7 NewcomerOP
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#4 ·
I'm a man

So, you're suggesting my empathy stems from some sort of shared experience? Hmmm... Let's be clear: I don't have any major family drama, even if I do find myself harboring a secret resentment toward my parents more often than I'd care to admit. Still, one has to be realistic—my situation isn't even remotely as dire as his. 🤷
Lawrence Sanchez10 Lawrence Sanchez10 Newcomer
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#5 ·
It doesn't necessarily have to be family issues. But I suspect there's a reason why you were drawn to that one specific individual out of a sea of millions who likely have just as many—if not more—baggage as they do.

Why that person in particular? Only you can really wrap your head around that...
Emily Reyes7 Emily Reyes7 NewcomerOP
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#6 ·
I met this individual through a shared hobby—something entirely separate from either of our personal struggles. I also crossed paths with several other people at the same venue who share this interest. However, after everything that has transpired, my sole objective is to figure out how to force myself to realize that his problems are none of my business. How can I learn to maintain a posture of cold, clinical neutrality toward them?

To be blunt, I have endured a significant amount of friction with people in the past—primarily friends and romantic interests, both in person and online. I believe I have successfully constructed a formidable shield of phlegmatic indifference between myself and the rest of the world. My goal was to ensure I no longer form emotional attachments or allow anyone else’s chaos to affect my internal state. Yet, this specific person's issues hit me with unexpected force. Every time we speak, or every time he starts venting about his situation, I feel a physical reaction—my legs go cold and I become visibly agitated. How do I shut that down? 😢
Jerry Martinez5 Jerry Martinez5 Regular
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#7 ·
I guess I'll just leave this here. There isn't much more to say. Jerry Martinez5 says:
I just want to find out WHY. WHY do the struggles of someone on the other side of North America hit me so hard when their problems have absolutely nothing to do with me? How am I supposed to stop letting this get under my skin? I need to know how to stay detached—to look at the whole situation coldly, like it’s some kind of fiction that doesn't involve me at all.


Very much so. Simple.Once you realize why you’re actually obsessing over him, the fixation will probably die down. You're just using him to work through some internal issue you haven't even acknowledged yet. I guess, in a way, you were in that exact same position once. You're basically just saying to him everything you wish you could say to yourself.

I bet you're going to claim his situation has nothing to do with yours. Sure. If you actually understood how much his circumstances mirror your own, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Pure aggravation. And all that emotional baggage, too.
Jerry Martinez5 Jerry Martinez5 Regular
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#8 ·
Emily Reyes7 said:I'm a man

So, you're suggesting my empathy stems from some sort of shared experience? Hmmm... Let's be clear: I don't have any major family drama, even if I do find myself harboring a secret resentment toward my parents more often than I'd care to admit. Still, one has to be realistic—my situation isn't even remotely as dire as his. 🤷

Fine, okay. Maybe his situation is way worse. But you still recognized yourself in it. For example: my parents used to spank me once a month. I identify heavily with someone who was severely abused by their parents.

That doesn't mean my parents treated me as badly as they treated that person, but I guess I experienced those monthly spankings much more tragically than I realize. I see my own pain in his. Through his pain, I want to resolve my own—since the root is the same. My parents humiliated and insulted me too, but I just suppressed it, telling myself it's normal for parents to sometimes hit a child.

That was a trivial example. It's not that the exact same thing happened to you, but you identify with it because you haven't processed your own feelings yet.
Emily Reyes7 Emily Reyes7 NewcomerOP
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#9 ·
I appreciate the insights you all have shared; frankly, I hadn't approached the matter from that particular angle. I intend to carve out some private time—when I can ensure total anonymity—to perhaps consult with a psychologist. That said, my preference remains firmly rooted in self-reliance; I would much rather resolve this entire issue on my own terms, without the intervention of a therapist or any other third party. If anyone here possesses a method for effective internal dialogue—specifically, how to logically deconstruct my own irrational frustrations regarding circumstances that are both unchangeable and ultimately irrelevant to my life—I am listening.
wanderingcanyon6 wanderingcanyon6 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Emily Reyes7 said:I am generally not the type of person to get worked up over someone else's personal drama if it doesn't impact my own life directly. I am more than happy to offer practical advice whenever I have the expertise to do so, but other people's struggles rarely pierce my emotional armor. Yet, for some reason, I find myself deeply unsettled by the problems of a certain friend.

The individual in question is someone I met online, living overseas. He is sixteen years old and dealing with severe family dysfunction. I honestly cannot wrap my head around why his domestic situation is hitting me this hard. It’s baffling; my own father’s issues at work or having a sick relative in the family don't provoke nearly this much internal turmoil. I have offered this friend an endless stream of guidance, but he refuses to take any meaningful action to improve his circumstances. Instead, he remains obsessively preoccupied with how his mother feels—a woman who, frankly, hasn't earned a shred of his sympathy. It feels as though he is some kind of masochist who finds a strange sort of comfort in his own suffering. I desperately want to wash my hands of the whole thing, but every time I picture the chaos in his household, I feel a surge of frustration.

Please, spare me the suggestions on what to advise him; based on everything I know about him, nothing I say will make a lick of difference. I am simply searching for the WHY. Why does the struggle of someone halfway across North America affect me so profoundly when it has absolutely zero bearing on my reality? How can I stop letting this get under my skin? How do I learn to view this situation with total detachment, as if it were some fictional tragedy that has nothing to do with me?

Thank you in advance.

Only you can figure out how to help yourself... No one here truly knows who you are or the specific details between you and your friend... One more thing regarding these kinds of posts—you mentioned giving advice to others... well, try giving that same advice to yourself. Talk to yourself as if you were a friend in that exact same spot... People are great at helping others, but they often forget they can offer that same guidance to themselves...
Emily Reyes7 Emily Reyes7 NewcomerOP
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#11 ·
I have attempted that approach myself. I find myself constantly reciting a mantra to my own reflection, much as I would offer counsel to a stranger standing in my shoes: "It simply isn't worth the aggravation. You lack the agency to alter the outcome. He wouldn't want you wasting your peace over this, and by losing your composure, you're actually failing to be of any assistance to him." I repeat these sentiments to myself incessantly, yet the words remain hollow; they change absolutely nothing.😢
swiftrider80 swiftrider80 Newcomer
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#12 ·
Why on earth should you always have to be guarded or stay completely detached? And why shouldn't you empathize with someone else? Honestly, there’s nothing wrong with that—in fact, it's quite the opposite. It’s a genuinely beautiful human trait.

If you're losing your cool constantly and letting that frustration derail your entire day, then sure, we have a problem. But otherwise, I don't see anything wrong with it at all. 🤷
Emily Reyes7 Emily Reyes7 NewcomerOP
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#13 ·
There was a period in my life when I found myself empathizing with almost everyone I encountered. I had this unfortunate tendency to internalize other people's struggles as if they were my own, which quite frequently pushed me to the very brink of my mental endurance. I would suffer through the tribulations of those dear to me as though the weight of their problems rested solely on my shoulders. Consequently, I made a conscious decision to swing toward the opposite extreme—aiming for a sense of phlegmatic detachment—but this particular situation is making that transition nearly impossible. I find myself becoming genuinely incensed just at the mere thought of the filth that individual shares a living space with. I am struggling to find that elusive middle ground: to maintain a level of empathy for others without letting it escalate into personal agitation and fury... especially when dealing with this specific person.🤷

Regardless of how this unfolds, I appreciate the kind intentions expressed by everyone here. 😉
Matthew Hayes14 Matthew Hayes14 Member
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#14 ·
I suspect there might be more to this than just identification.
(I can't quite make out the bottom of the page, but it likely says something similar):

Maybe we get worked up about people who feel like "our own"
simply because we accept them, understand them, and mistakenly think we have some influence over their lives.

My father's work issues might be too abstract. Maybe.
It's possible I can't actually impact his problems at the office,
so getting worked up about it doesn't make much sense either.
(Still—it’s better that way, even if helping him whenever possible is the right move).

Alright. Now I can see the bottom of the page.
So—FedEx actually does empathize with others, but they just hide it or suppress it.
In a way, empathy is just being able to truly experience and perceive someone else's situation.

I don't believe we are only dealing with our own individual struggles.
I am certain we are capable of loving others selflessly and wanting to help them without expecting anything in return.
Obviously, you have to remember we're all just human beings, living our lives, and so on.
wiredridge152 wiredridge152 Member
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#15 ·
Mind your own business...
I used to be the type who was constantly feeling sorry for everyone; I’d just sit there aching for people, genuinely feeling their struggles as if they were my own...
But honestly? Now that I see how rarely anyone actually gives a damn about what happens to me, I’ve decided to adopt the same mindset. I look out for number one, and frankly, that’s all there is to it.😉
Kevin Peterson16 Kevin Peterson16 Newcomer
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#16 ·
Emily Reyes7 said:I appreciate the insights you all have shared; frankly, I hadn't approached the matter from that particular angle. I intend to carve out some private time—when I can ensure total anonymity—to perhaps consult with a psychologist. That said, my preference remains firmly rooted in self-reliance; I would much rather resolve this entire issue on my own terms, without the intervention of a therapist or any other third party. If anyone here possesses a method for effective internal dialogue—specifically, how to logically deconstruct my own irrational frustrations regarding circumstances that are both unchangeable and ultimately irrelevant to my life—I am listening.

Some people are just meant to step up and handle things... it's heavy work and often pretty painful, but once you realize you're actually helping someone, it feels amazing. The person you're helping knows, they feel it, and they're incredibly grateful. No matter where I am, that's how I deal with it. It brings me a lot of happiness, truly.
Drew Clark7 Drew Clark7 Newcomer
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#17 ·
I don't care about other people's problems, nor am I interested in 🤷☕
Kevin Peterson16 Kevin Peterson16 Newcomer
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#18 ·
Just to add... if you're a Virgo, everything feels amplified. It can get pretty exhausting at times. You just have to accept certain things as inevitable—it’s part of the deal. Those are just our little personal curses, I guess... but don't feel too bad. Plenty of people are dealing with much heavier burdens than ours.
wiredmarlin29 wiredmarlin29 Member
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joined Jan 2009
#19 ·
Emily Reyes7 said:I am generally not the type of person to get worked up over someone else's personal drama if it doesn't impact my own life directly. I am more than happy to offer practical advice whenever I have the expertise to do so, but other people's struggles rarely pierce my emotional armor. Yet, for some reason, I find myself deeply unsettled by the problems of a certain friend.

The individual in question is someone I met online, living overseas. He is sixteen years old and dealing with severe family dysfunction. I honestly cannot wrap my head around why his domestic situation is hitting me this hard. It’s baffling; my own father’s issues at work or having a sick relative in the family don't provoke nearly this much internal turmoil. I have offered this friend an endless stream of guidance, but he refuses to take any meaningful action to improve his circumstances. Instead, he remains obsessively preoccupied with how his mother feels—a woman who, frankly, hasn't earned a shred of his sympathy. It feels as though he is some kind of masochist who finds a strange sort of comfort in his own suffering. I desperately want to wash my hands of the whole thing, but every time I picture the chaos in his household, I feel a surge of frustration.

Please, spare me the suggestions on what to advise him; based on everything I know about him, nothing I say will make a lick of difference. I am simply searching for the WHY. Why does the struggle of someone halfway across North America affect me so profoundly when it has absolutely zero bearing on my reality? How can I stop letting this get under my skin? How do I learn to view this situation with total detachment, as if it were some fictional tragedy that has nothing to do with me?

Thank you in advance.

don't do it... you have your own life to live...
altruistic urges have been
below average for a long time now
Matthew Hayes14 Matthew Hayes14 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#20 ·
wiredmarlin29 said:don't do it... you have your own life to live...
altruistic urges have been
below average for a long time now

She's 🙄 always like this..
Life is hollow without other people, empathy, or cooperation..
Without community.. without neighbors or fellow citizens.. image
Without those right next to us or someone halfway across the country

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