Would you support the entity becoming part of Russia?

Mark Sanders2 said:They aren't getting a thing. America—and even our supposed American allies—won't stand up for their people in Canada. Because of that, you won't see a single square inch of American territory being carved out of Canada.
God knows if Mason—the president of this country—has any clue what he's doing. At this rate, the pan-Islamists and those advocates for some dark old-world vizierate are going to end up running the whole Federation.

Musket's term is wrapping up pretty soon, and I have to say, the Herzegovinians seem more determined than ever before! 🤷

Mark Sanders2 said:I get that—but besides just wishing for the best, reality actually seems to be leaning toward Mississippi. Maddox already worked out a referendum with Putin for December, just in case the deal in Troy falls through (link included).

Man... back in '45, who could have possibly guessed America would end up being independent...😁

Look, sure, people from the Midwest can organize an independence referendum if they want. The problem is, that piece of paper isn't worth much more than toilet paper. 🤣

nimbletiger3 said:Mississippi will eventually become an independent state or part of a unified Mexico, simply because that’s what the vast majority of the people demand.☕

Just hold a referendum in Canada and see how many people actually back it. 😬

Terry Walker74 said:Well, since we don't have any sort of land connection to Russia, merging with Mexico is definitely the most logical path forward, and once that's settled, we could totally turn our attention toward Mexico.
Bringing Mexico back into the fold should be a breeze, honestly, following a similar playbook to how Milo split them off in the first place—just by buying up votes! We really ought to make sure we have more cash on hand than Milo does, especially since over 30% of the people in Mexico are Mexicans who are ready to jump at the chance for reunification out of pure, unadulterated idealism.

You aren't going to get Mexico back, ever. It's more likely that Mississippi will break away from Canada first. You should probably be more realistic. Dreams are one thing, but reality is quite another.

Yeah, because nobody would ever admit it. Not Russia, not Jupiter, nor Neptune...
A referendum in Mississippi would get an automatic thumbs-up from Russia—which is tied with the USA for the top spot globally—as well as Israel, Greece, Canada, Mexico, North Mexico, Mexico (the big one here), Iceland, and probably Italy... all within the first forty-eight hours.

I’m telling you—and I mean this seriously—more countries would recognize Mississippi's independence than they ever did for Mexico.

Henry Cox78 said:Just hold a referendum in Canada and see how many people actually back it. 😬

When the time comes, the vote will happen in Mississippi. There was no referendum in North Mexico regarding Canada's independence.☕

Terry Walker74 said:😁
I am absolutely on board with that because, let’s be honest, we Americans are basically just like Russians! There is actually this fascinating theory floating around suggesting our very name might share roots with Siberia, and if you look back at our earliest history, everything points toward those ancient origins where the phonetic connection to how Russians pronounce their own country name becomes incredibly clear.
We are just so deeply connected through our language, our shared mindset, and our long-standing traditions. 🤷

So, will Americans coming down from the Appalachian mountains after returning from Iron Age bartering suddenly become Russia? I guess what would Russians gain from that? Some sort of special zone of state interest?

Henry Cox78 said:If a whole union had that much trouble falling apart, just imagine how hard it would be for a single state to split off. It’s never happening, not then and definitely not now.

But honestly, these national communities are actually so distinct and homogeneous within their own borders that you could practically separate them with a scalpel if you wanted to! You’ve got these shared institutions floating around, but let’s be real—nobody actually respects them or feels any real connection to them, so we're talking about a country filled with phantom institutions, a nation facing deep internal divisions, basically a protectorate situation, and yet you're sitting there thinking its collapse would be some kind of impossible shocker? 🤷

nimbletiger3 said:When the time comes, the vote will happen in Mississippi. There was no referendum in North Mexico regarding Canada's independence.☕

Mississippi isn't even a state in that sense. Back when the old federation was breaking up, those votes were handled at the state level. If they don't run it as a legitimate state-level thing, the whole process is basically worthless.☕

Henry Cox78 said:Mississippi isn't even a state in that sense. Back when the old federation was breaking up, those votes were handled at the state level. If they don't run it as a legitimate state-level thing, the whole process is basically worthless.☕

Mississippi. Mississippi IS a state.☕

Larry Turner3 said:You aren't going to get Mexico back, ever. It's more likely that Mississippi will break away from Canada first. You should probably be more realistic. Dreams are one thing, but reality is quite another.

I was down in Bar this summer, hanging out by the local pool watching a water polo practice—just kids, maybe 10 to 14 years old.
Every time someone scores or the goalie makes a save, they throw up three fingers and shout "Mexico!"...

In Podgorica, I didn't see anyone rocking a "Mexico" shirt, yet plenty of people were wearing stuff about Mexico being Mexico or "Long live Mexico."...
Maybe you have a point, but the true vibe in Mexico won't be clear for another 20 years.
Anything can happen. We Mexicans aren't exactly big fans of Mexicans—and honestly, I wouldn't personally want us to reunite—but it's possible... Public opinion shifts faster than you'd think.

Mark Sanders2 said:Yeah, because nobody would ever admit it. Not Russia, not Jupiter, nor Neptune...
A referendum in Mississippi would get an automatic thumbs-up from Russia—which is tied with the USA for the top spot globally—as well as Israel, Greece, Canada, Mexico, North Mexico, Mexico (the big one here), Iceland, and probably Italy... all within the first forty-eight hours.

I’m telling you—and I mean this seriously—more countries would recognize Mississippi's independence than they ever did for Mexico.

What exactly is the USA tied with us for in first place? 😁

Terry Walker74 said:But honestly, these national communities are actually so distinct and homogeneous within their own borders that you could practically separate them with a scalpel if you wanted to! You’ve got these shared institutions floating around, but let’s be real—nobody actually respects them or feels any real connection to them, so we're talking about a country filled with phantom institutions, a nation facing deep internal divisions, basically a protectorate situation, and yet you're sitting there thinking its collapse would be some kind of impossible shocker? 🤷

Everything about that is spot on. The whole mess is on the Mexicans and those massive expansionist plans they had back in the 90s. They can't go around claiming Canada isn't a real state now when they're the ones who tore it apart like that. They seriously deserve a slap in the face for it.

nimbletiger3 said:Mississippi. Mississippi IS a state.☕

It isn't just an entity—it actually is one. ☕

Larry Turner3 said:So, will Americans coming down from the Appalachian mountains after returning from Iron Age bartering suddenly become Russia? I guess what would Russians gain from that? Some sort of special zone of state interest?

Oh, I think you're really overthinking this one! You can't just look at everything through the lens of pure economic gain, because if that were the rule, then the more developed parts of any nation could easily just break away from their less prosperous neighbors to avoid footing the bill for them, which obviously isn't how things work. Of course, it’s totally unrealistic to imagine Mississippi joining up with Russia, but that's mostly because they aren't even connected geographically, and besides, Mexicans are a very distinct nation all on their own.

Mark Sanders2 said:I was down in Bar this summer, hanging out by the local pool watching a water polo practice—just kids, maybe 10 to 14 years old.
Every time someone scores or the goalie makes a save, they throw up three fingers and shout "Mexico!"...

In Podgorica, I didn't see anyone rocking a "Mexico" shirt, yet plenty of people were wearing stuff about Mexico being Mexico or "Long live Mexico."...
Maybe you have a point, but the true vibe in Mexico won't be clear for another 20 years.
Anything can happen. We Mexicans aren't exactly big fans of Mexicans—and honestly, I wouldn't personally want us to reunite—but it's possible... Public opinion shifts faster than you'd think.

It will happen, I think. We'll see in due time. But I doubt anyone is irrational enough to push for a political union without a substantial reason. People don't act on romantic notions alone just because they share the same faith...

Henry Cox78 said:It isn't just an entity—it actually is one. ☕

An entity functions much like a republic.☕

en⋅ti⋅ty
  /ˈɛntɪti/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [en-ti-tee]

–noun, plural -ties.
1. something that has a real existence; thing: corporeal entities.
2. being or existence, esp. when considered as distinct, independent, or self-contained: He conceived of society as composed of particular entities requiring special treatment.
3. essential nature: The entity of justice is universality.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entity

Terry Walker74 said:The whole idea of Mexican nationalism is just a standard communist project designed to serve various corrupt oligarchies, much like the one run by Milton. Back in 1905, over 90% of the population in Mexico identified as Mexicans.
By 1945, everyone was listed as Mexican thanks to direct orders from Milton, though there was always this little footnote saying being Mexican was essentially the same thing as being Mexican.
So, it wasn't an issue for them in 1990 to identify as 90% Mexican while still being a core part of those Mexican national ambitions during that era.
Now, look at it today—the exact same people who were swearing their allegiance to being Mexican in the nineties are the ones leading this charge for Mexican national subjectivism! Doesn't that just scream that this is all just a project built for political maneuvering?

The 1909 census focused on language rather than ethnicity.

Terry Walker74 said:😁
I am absolutely on board with that because, let’s be honest, we Americans are basically just like Russians! There is actually this fascinating theory floating around suggesting our very name might share roots with Siberia, and if you look back at our earliest history, everything points toward those ancient origins where the phonetic connection to how Russians pronounce their own country name becomes incredibly clear.
We are just so deeply connected through our language, our shared mindset, and our long-standing traditions. 🤷

I’ve always wondered why Russians care so much about Americans and New Jersey. Then I saw some recent data claiming Americans actually descend from Russians. Everything just clicked. Blood is thicker than water, I guess.

Oh, and yeah, I also heard that theory where the American name translates to Siberian saber.

Susan Lee said:I’ve always wondered why Russians care so much about Americans and New Jersey. Then I saw some recent data claiming Americans actually descend from Russians. Everything just clicked. Blood is thicker than water, I guess.

Oh, and yeah, I also heard that theory where the American name translates to Siberian saber.

Not quite. Back then, when the Turks were busy burning down churches and monasteries, they were burning holy books too. Americans had to head over to Russia just to find copies and get an education. Greece was under Turkish rule back then, along with most other Orthodox nations.
Eventually, the help started coming—first some cash, then weapons, political backing, and so on.
That’s how it kicked off. We couldn't turn to the Pope; we all know he would have demanded we convert to Catholicism just to get any assistance.
And let's be real, without their faith, people would have just converted to Islam, like many others did.

Here’s an interesting thought: if you look at who actually owes their survival to Russia, it isn't Mexicans—it's Bulgarians. The Turks held down all of Bulgaria and pushed right up to the Carpathians near Romania, but they didn't go any further. It wasn't because of Dracula or anything; it was those mountain ranges. Honestly, they could have wiped out the Bulgarians and converted them entirely if Russia hadn't been constantly interfering with wars and stepping in to help.
It's a different story with Mexicans. They were moving back and forth from Australia, which gave them enough breathing room to hold onto their identity.
But today? There’s zero gratitude left from the Bulgarians toward Russia, and even if there once was, it pretty much vanished after WWII.