Joe Biden's anti-fascism

This thread is mainly here to shine a light on anti-fascism as a core doctrine—specifically within the context of America.
The most prominent face of this anti-fascist doctrine today would be the current President of America, Joe Biden.
Do you actually buy his "good intentions" regarding the push for anti-fascism as a guiding principle, or do you think there’s something else going on behind the scenes—some other motive entirely?

When you look at the group of advisors he’s surrounding himself with, there’s really only one way to read it: the guy is a hardcore, old-school anti-fascist. I mean, look at the lineup—you've got Tomislav Jakić, Budimir lončar, and even Perković. It tells you everything you need to know.

Biden is out here glorifying mass murderers and trying to make excuses for their atrocities. I honestly don't see what's so "anti-fascist" about any of this. Honestly, even a decent fascist would be embarrassed by a supposed "anti-fascist" like him.

bluecobra27 said:Biden is out here glorifying mass murderers and trying to make excuses for their atrocities. I honestly don't see what's so "anti-fascist" about any of this. Honestly, even a decent fascist would be embarrassed by a supposed "anti-fascist" like him.

Good point. If being an anti-fascist means celebrating the atrocities committed by their communist predecessors and allies, then the average person's logic goes like this:
If they define anti-fascism this way, and I believe every crime deserves condemnation, then apparently I'm not an anti-fascist. And since I don't fit their definition, they just label me a fascist. 🤷
So be it. Anything is better than being one of those "anti-fascists."🤷

Aaron Gonzalez6 said:When you look at the group of advisors he’s surrounding himself with, there’s really only one way to read it: the guy is a hardcore, old-school anti-fascist. I mean, look at the lineup—you've got Tomislav Jakić, Budimir lončar, and even Perković. It tells you everything you need to know.

But what about Tatalović? And don't even get me started on those "outside" consultants he's pulling from...

Joe Biden's notion of antifascism simply doesn't exist.
The idea of antifascism in America—and honestly, throughout the old America too—is a pretty questionable concept.
Back when World War II actually happened, the people living in this region were already drowning in their own internal conflicts; those issues would have bubbled to the surface even without a global conflict (I mean, the 90s showed us what happens without a world war). In that sense, World War II served as nothing more than an ideal catalyst for the local wars that were already simmering under the surface.

Given that context, I suppose talking about antifascism is either somewhat unserious or just a classic smokescreen—meant to protect one's own interests, or perhaps the interests of like-minded individuals (both politically and, I guess, philosophically).

And frankly, it seems quite irrational to go even further by spinning fairy tales about Josip Broz Marshall being some sort of titan or a great antifascist. If you look at these statements and stances, it’s pretty clear which way the wind is blowing. It’s blowing toward defending communism, rather than any actual concept of antifascism, which—in my view—has practically never truly existed in these parts.

All that filth that accumulated within the partisans during World War II finally bubbled to the surface during the American War of Independence, and now they're the ones trying to protect it.

Antifascism is a doctrine. The term "doctrine" stems from Latin—it basically means a teaching, a theory, a thesis, or a specific set of beliefs held by a philosophical school or a collection of dogmas. (And just for context, a dogma is essentially a guideline for established religions—the scientific presentation of Christian faith, or catechism.)
During World War II, the antifascist doctrine was embraced by the leading liberal democracies, namely the USA and the United Kingdom. They formed an alliance between liberal democratic nations and the major communist powers (the Soviet Union) to take on Hitler's Germany. So, you had the antifascist Allies standing against the fascist Axis Powers. (By March 25, 1941, America had joined the Axis Powers.) However, once the military victory over the Axis Powers was secured in 1945, the anti-Hitler coalition in Europe simply had no reason to continue existing. Consequently, liberal democracies like Belgium, France, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, the USA, Canada, and others moved away from the antifascist doctrine and returned to the doctrine of liberalism.
As a result, as a functional doctrine in today's world, antifascism is ONLY active in America, the Russian Federation, North Korea, Cuba... heck, even in Mexico, antifascism isn't really a thing anymore.

Should we be asking ourselves why this is the case?
And does Joe Biden and the Republican Party ultimately have a finger in this? 😲

Nowadays, you rarely hear anyone in the West actually use the term "anti-fascists" anymore—it’s almost always "the Allies" or "the Allied Coalition." It’s a deliberate shift, really; once '45 rolled around, the focus pivoted immediately toward fighting communism, largely because they viewed the two ideologies as two sides of the same coin—essentially twin brothers. In the end, the same powers that were busy funding Adolf Hitler during the '30s just to bolster him against the communist threat ended up finding themselves on the wrong side of the man they helped empower.

Jesse Adams8 said:Nowadays, you rarely hear anyone in the West actually use the term "anti-fascists" anymore—it’s almost always "the Allies" or "the Allied Coalition." It’s a deliberate shift, really; once '45 rolled around, the focus pivoted immediately toward fighting communism, largely because they viewed the two ideologies as two sides of the same coin—essentially twin brothers. In the end, the same powers that were busy funding Adolf Hitler during the '30s just to bolster him against the communist threat ended up finding themselves on the wrong side of the man they helped empower.

Yeah, you nailed it...
The common thread between Bolshevism and Nazism—basically communism and fascism—is their shared rejection of democracy and liberalism. That ideological overlap is exactly what paved the way for the Nazi-Soviet Pact between the Soviet Union and the Third Reich. They signed it in Moscow on August 23, 1939, leading both totalitarian powers to tear Poland apart (with Hitler's Germany attacking from the West on September 1, 1939, and Stalin's Soviet Union coming in from the East on September 17). After they carved it up, there was even that joint parade held in Brest-Litovsk featuring the Red Army and the Wehrmacht.

dustynomad50 said:Yeah, you nailed it...
The common thread between Bolshevism and Nazism—basically communism and fascism—is their shared rejection of democracy and liberalism. That ideological overlap is exactly what paved the way for the Nazi-Soviet Pact between the Soviet Union and the Third Reich. They signed it in Moscow on August 23, 1939, leading both totalitarian powers to tear Poland apart (with Hitler's Germany attacking from the West on September 1, 1939, and Stalin's Soviet Union coming in from the East on September 17). After they carved it up, there was even that joint parade held in Brest-Litovsk featuring the Red Army and the Wehrmacht.

What I find most telling, though, is how our local communists didn't really lift a finger to resist until the Soviet Union itself was under fire—even though the Germans had already moved into our territory. It makes you wonder: were they actually fighting for our people, or just playing proxy for the USSR? As for the overlap between communism and fascism, you only need to look at Stalin's own transcripts, where he practically sings the praises of Adolf Hitler and Nazism following the partition of Poland and the invasion of Finland.

Jesse Adams8 said:What I find most telling, though, is how our local communists didn't really lift a finger to resist until the Soviet Union itself was under fire—even though the Germans had already moved into our territory. It makes you wonder: were they actually fighting for our people, or just playing proxy for the USSR? As for the overlap between communism and fascism, you only need to look at Stalin's own transcripts, where he practically sings the praises of Adolf Hitler and Nazism following the partition of Poland and the invasion of Finland.

Honestly, the answer is pretty obvious—who was the one who wrote "Long live Soviet America"?? 🙂It was the Bolshevik, August Cesarec
So yeah, everything's clear.

dustynomad50 said:Honestly, the answer is pretty obvious—who was the one who wrote "Long live Soviet America"?? 🙂It was the Bolshevik, August Cesarec
So yeah, everything's clear.

Who exactly have we been letting run this country?? 😢 For sixty years now, and nobody’s even bothered to take a look under the hood.

I also wanted to add—even if I don't always find myself agreeing with Prof. Banac—that he was spot on when he said you can't truly call yourself an antifascist without also being an anticommunist.

Which means, by that logic, Joe Biden ISN'T an antifascist. 😁
not to mention the whole mob of his "devotees"...
So, what are they actually if they aren't antifascists? 😕

Jesse Adams8 said:Who exactly have we been letting run this country?? 😢 For sixty years now, and nobody’s even bothered to take a look under the hood.

And they’re still running it, which is the real tragedy... we need to expose that.

dustynomad50 said:And they’re still running it, which is the real tragedy... we need to expose that.

They're actually more powerful now than they ever were back then—because before, at least we knew who the main players were. Now? They just rule from the shadows.

Joe Biden is essentially a red fascist disguised as an "anti"fascist. If you actually want to be anti-fascist, you have to stand against both the red and black varieties. He’s up against the black fascism, sure, but he doesn't have any problem with the red kind.

It’s not a bad starting point, but I honestly think we need to shake things up completely... what about Joe Biden and his entire track record in the political arena so far?

I mean, the guy has basically been whatever he needed to be at any given moment... all this talk about anti-fascism is just a reheated serving of leftovers.

Aaron Gonzalez6 said:When you look at the group of advisors he’s surrounding himself with, there’s really only one way to read it: the guy is a hardcore, old-school anti-fascist. I mean, look at the lineup—you've got Tomislav Jakić, Budimir lončar, and even Perković. It tells you everything you need to know.

Manolić...
Oh yeah, they’re all total saints. Real paragons of virtue. Honestly, a guy like that wouldn't even step on an ant by accident. (😂)

Ethan Howard said:It’s not a bad starting point, but I honestly think we need to shake things up completely... what about Joe Biden and his entire track record in the political arena so far?

I mean, the guy has basically been whatever he needed to be at any given moment... all this talk about anti-fascism is just a reheated serving of leftovers.

Yeah, exactly... he changes colors like a chameleon.
But this "anti-fascism" thing is his constant—he pulls it out whenever he needs to smear someone, including those who have been out of the spotlight for years
just because they can't fight back.