Who watches the watchmen?

casualmaker13 said:Hold on, is it my question, yours, or his that's actually arrogant and pointless?😲😂
Maybe you and I are actually one and the same, even if we think otherwise.😂

Sure, everything is one. But even that's just an illusion. 😉
I'm thinking about making myself a t-shirt that says, "We're all masters!"

placidharbor7 said:Well, it sure seems like you aren't either!😢

Honestly, I don't see any point in communicating like this—there’s no actual debate, no exchange of ideas, nothing.

Why so rigid—or should I say, why so abrasive, placidharbor7? Why dodge the questions being thrown your way? Why not actually lay out the reasoning behind your views on the topic? Honestly, if you truly believe you have something valuable to contribute, why not engage more meaningfully in the discussion? Explain things, teach us, make a recommendation, drop a link—just give us something to work with. Most of your posts just seem to be an invitation to conflict. Show us this "transcendence" you keep talking about...🙄

Michael Anderson2 said:Sure, everything is one. But even that's just an illusion. 😉
I'm thinking about making myself a t-shirt that says, "We're all masters!"

Honestly, I don't see any point in communicating like this—there’s no actual debate, no exchange of ideas, nothing.

Why so rigid—or should I say, why so abrasive, placidharbor7? Why dodge the questions being thrown your way? Why not actually lay out the reasoning behind your views on the topic? Honestly, if you truly believe you have something valuable to contribute, why not engage more meaningfully in the discussion? Explain things, teach us, make a recommendation, drop a link—just give us something to work with. Most of your posts just seem to be an invitation to conflict. Show us this "transcendence" you keep talking about...🙄

Look, you're just wandering around aimlessly! placidharbor7 ran a whole masterclass here with over 20,000 enrollments, not to mention a few other major headlines. It's all sitting right there in the archives—why don't you go ahead and look?

Edward Flores4 said:So then the little guy actually wrapped up the chocolate, did he? 🙂

if you learn how to pee in a giant seashell, maybe the squirrel will give you some chocolate 😁

casualmaker13 said:So then everyone's a schizophrenic, right? Even you. I mean, even the most useless person out there watches things happen sometimes.😂
To me, being an observer actually means being aware of what's going on without trying to mess with the flow of events. 😲
There isn't some "movie" playing when you observe, because something else is always happening.
We’re always observing what's happening right now—the present moment is the only thing that's actually real.
Maybe go hang out at a local community college or something, somewhere better than here.😂

Whether you're watching or not, things happen on their own—and your observation (or lack thereof) is just part of that process.

casualmaker13 said:Honestly, the less you know, the easier things are.👍
I mean, you can't even take a dump if you aren't aware enough to feel the urge; you’d just end up ruining your pants.😉
And as for measuring awareness, it's all about duration.😲
The longer you can hold out, the better you are in bed.😂

Even a chicken is "conscious" when it's pooping—it pauses, lets out a fart, then keeps going.,

Even if I don't view a chicken as some sentient being...😁

Cock-a-doodle-doo to you too, and may it be a very conscious cock-a-doodle-doo.😁 😁

steeleagle13 said:if you learn how to pee in a giant seashell, maybe the squirrel will give you some chocolate 😁

OOOOO - ho - hoooooooooooo😂🤣😲

steeleagle13 said:Whether you're watching or not, things happen on their own—and your observation (or lack thereof) is just part of that process.

Man, placidharbor7, you are absolutely on fire right now! Seriously, you're killing it.👍🙂😉That's just how it is.

Michael Anderson2 said:Sure, everything is one. But even that's just an illusion. 😉
I'm thinking about making myself a t-shirt that says, "We're all masters!"

Honestly, I don't see any point in communicating like this—there’s no actual debate, no exchange of ideas, nothing.

Why so rigid—or should I say, why so abrasive, placidharbor7? Why dodge the questions being thrown your way? Why not actually lay out the reasoning behind your views on the topic? Honestly, if you truly believe you have something valuable to contribute, why not engage more meaningfully in the discussion? Explain things, teach us, make a recommendation, drop a link—just give us something to work with. Most of your posts just seem to be an invitation to conflict. Show us this "transcendence" you keep talking about...🙄

Auuu Chief, you are missing the mark by quite a bit... just look at one of the master's tall tales....

placidharbor7 said:The exact same force that wakes you up in the morning, hands you love, sickness, and puberty, carries you toward destiny and death, and points you toward transcendence—is the very same force that poses your absurdly arrogant question.

Higher consciousness is the sign that binds us together, then splits us into parts during this life, only to unite us once again in death. It’s a higher awareness acting through us throughout our existence, allowing us to observe the world and realize we are all just extensions of the same hand and the same mind...
To even attempt to lead such a profound message, you're clearly disconnected from it based on how you talk and act. Don't go attacking your own hand if you actually know it exists.

Jeffrey Gray4 said:Higher consciousness is the sign that binds us together, then splits us into parts during this life, only to unite us once again in death. It’s a higher awareness acting through us throughout our existence, allowing us to observe the world and realize we are all just extensions of the same hand and the same mind...
To even attempt to lead such a profound message, you're clearly disconnected from it based on how you talk and act. Don't go attacking your own hand if you actually know it exists.

Of course the master has no clue if that "hand" even exists.

So, maybe it would be a great idea for you to sit down and have a little chat with the young master steeleagle13 instead!?👍

Brenda Cook4 said:Auuu Chief, you are missing the mark by quite a bit... just look at one of the master's tall tales....

Thanks a million for pointing me in the right direction!😉

placidharbor7 said:Of course the master has no clue if that "hand" even exists.

So, maybe it would be a great idea for you to sit down and have a little chat with the young master steeleagle13 instead!?👍

Master, just give it to me straight—how much do you actually know about me? Please, just don't dodge the question with another one of your rhetorical questions.
And please, if you can, just toss me into one of those religious boxes and be done with it.

Peter Phillips32 said:Look, if you’ve actually managed to climb the ladder enough to become a supervisor, then you’ve basically set yourself up for the moment where you end up babysitting the very people who used to be your peers.

And yet, in this case, she is the one in control.

Michael Anderson2 said:Sure, everything is one. But even that's just an illusion. 😉
I'm thinking about making myself a t-shirt that says, "We're all masters!"

Honestly, I don't see any point in communicating like this—there’s no actual debate, no exchange of ideas, nothing.

Why so rigid—or should I say, why so abrasive, placidharbor7? Why dodge the questions being thrown your way? Why not actually lay out the reasoning behind your views on the topic? Honestly, if you truly believe you have something valuable to contribute, why not engage more meaningfully in the discussion? Explain things, teach us, make a recommendation, drop a link—just give us something to work with. Most of your posts just seem to be an invitation to conflict. Show us this "transcendence" you keep talking about...🙄

We’re all placidharbor7—well, except for those moments when we’re all more like Mirko Norac 🤣 (the older crowd will remember that whole era, and the younger ones... well, they get to keep their innocence) 🙂

Honestly, I don't see any point in communicating like this—there’s no actual discussion, no exchange of ideas, nothing at all.

Exactly. He’s actually playing the part of a true Zen master perfectly... A real master lures in students the way you might tease a child with a clenched fist, making them believe there's something precious inside, when in reality, the hand is empty. Every master is essentially a con artist, because if he truly had something valuable to "sell," he wouldn't be wasting his time hanging out here and flooding forums with posts 😉

Why so harsh, Master? Not to sound bold, but why the attitude?

Because he’s leaning hard into that Far East guru vibe and all their clichés... except he hasn't realized that their behavior actually makes sense given their circumstances. Specifically, people go to them begging to be taught, so that kind of persona works. But our "master" is just copying their folklore in a totally inappropriate setting—an environment where nobody is asking him for anything, let alone begging him to be their teacher.

He doesn't seem to grasp that, which is why he acts so out of touch. He just wants to feel important and respected. 😕

Why won't you answer the questions being asked of you?

The second he opened that hand, everyone would see it was empty, and the "magic" in his head would vanish instantly. The privilege of being a master is getting to ask the questions and laugh at every answer—right up until the moment you realize there are no answers, and you just have to laugh at yourself for being foolish enough to think a master actually had something to teach you.

Why don't you explain the reasoning behind your thoughts on the subject?

Because they aren't his own thoughts... it's just a routine, and routines are hard to justify logically. So, the master keeps his fist tightly clenched, just waiting for someone to fall for the trick. 🙂

So, basically, if you actually feel like you have something valuable to add to the conversation, why aren't you jumping in more often, plodonosnije?

If I did, I’d say so. That much is crystal clear!

steeleagle13 said:if you learn how to pee in a giant seashell, maybe the squirrel will give you some chocolate 😁

I had no idea clams came in different sizes—and even if they did, I’m pretty sure aiming for a big one would be way easier than trying to hit a small one.

It's a whole lot tougher when you're trying to pee against the wind... kind of like how you're handling this little remark about giant clams, tiny business, and leprechauns.🤣

Edward Flores4 said:We’re all placidharbor7—well, except for those moments when we’re all more like Mirko Norac 🤣 (the older crowd will remember that whole era, and the younger ones... well, they get to keep their innocence) 🙂

Honestly, I don't see any point in communicating like this—there’s no actual discussion, no exchange of ideas, nothing at all.

Exactly. He’s actually playing the part of a true Zen master perfectly... A real master lures in students the way you might tease a child with a clenched fist, making them believe there's something precious inside, when in reality, the hand is empty. Every master is essentially a con artist, because if he truly had something valuable to "sell," he wouldn't be wasting his time hanging out here and flooding forums with posts 😉

Why so harsh, Master? Not to sound bold, but why the attitude?

Because he’s leaning hard into that Far East guru vibe and all their clichés... except he hasn't realized that their behavior actually makes sense given their circumstances. Specifically, people go to them begging to be taught, so that kind of persona works. But our "master" is just copying their folklore in a totally inappropriate setting—an environment where nobody is asking him for anything, let alone begging him to be their teacher.

He doesn't seem to grasp that, which is why he acts so out of touch. He just wants to feel important and respected. 😕

Why won't you answer the questions being asked of you?

The second he opened that hand, everyone would see it was empty, and the "magic" in his head would vanish instantly. The privilege of being a master is getting to ask the questions and laugh at every answer—right up until the moment you realize there are no answers, and you just have to laugh at yourself for being foolish enough to think a master actually had something to teach you.

Why don't you explain the reasoning behind your thoughts on the subject?

Because they aren't his own thoughts... it's just a routine, and routines are hard to justify logically. So, the master keeps his fist tightly clenched, just waiting for someone to fall for the trick. 🙂

So, basically, if you actually feel like you have something valuable to add to the conversation, why aren't you jumping in more often, plodonosnije?

If I did, I’d say so. That much is crystal clear!

Honestly, I think your neurons just haven't quite leveled up to a more mature age yet—that’s the only real secret in your case!😢

So, I’m guessing a "higher level" would be something like a "higher master tier" or maybe just a "higher level of futility"?

Or is this that whole "higher self" thing—the part of you supposedly running the show over your "lower self"—where you have to meditate your way into growing special neurons just to reach a "higher degree of schizophrenia"?

Or, let's be real, are you just selling smoke and mirrors because the crowd is starting to realize that underneath all that fog, the master is standing there totally naked, exposed, and completely unprepared?

Edward Flores4 said:I had no idea clams came in different sizes—and even if they did, I’m pretty sure aiming for a big one would be way easier than trying to hit a small one.

It's a whole lot tougher when you're trying to pee against the wind... kind of like how you're handling this little remark about giant clams, tiny business, and leprechauns.🤣

And some people just pee in the toilet 😁, so there's your "small shell" for you. 😁😁

Everything's fine until you're trying to pee in the sink 🙂.

John, what's the American word for sink?

Edward Flores4 said:So, I’m guessing a "higher level" would be something like a "higher master tier" or maybe just a "higher level of futility"?

Or is this that whole "higher self" thing—the part of you supposedly running the show over your "lower self"—where you have to meditate your way into growing special neurons just to reach a "higher degree of schizophrenia"?

Or, let's be real, are you just selling smoke and mirrors because the crowd is starting to realize that underneath all that fog, the master is standing there totally naked, exposed, and completely unprepared?

For Christ's sake, this isn't the Battle of the Marne 😁😁 😂

steeleagle13 said:For Christ's sake, this isn't the Battle of the Marne 😁😁 😂

No, my dear steeleagle13, it’s more like an Audit at o. K. Kontroloral:

It’s not just some worker; it’s a MASTER
It isn't about being a "senior machinist" or taking a "short course in CNC"; it’s about true "mastery"
They aren't "naked, barefoot, starving, unarmed, and suffering from typhus," they are simply "unprepared and lacking gear"
It’s not "commissars" overseeing "partisans," rather, the "upper tier" of the hierarchy oversees the "lower tier"

I suppose the only thing that remains identical between both sides is the sheer amount of smoke and mirrors being sold.🙂