What do you make of someone who openly calls themselves evil?

I have actually encountered someone quite like this before. It is my belief that true malice often stems from deep-seated sadness, which then evolves into profound disappointment; consequently, I view such an individual as being inherently malevolent.
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What’s the verdict?

- She actually thinks for herself and has a genuine sense of self-awareness.
- She isn't a suck-up or someone trying way too hard to curate a perfect image of herself.
- No matter what you throw her way, she’ll give you a straight, honest answer.
- And yeah, she's definitely been through some serious stuff in her life. ☕

Anonymous said:What’s the verdict?

- She actually thinks for herself and has a genuine sense of self-awareness.
- She isn't a suck-up or someone trying way too hard to curate a perfect image of herself.
- No matter what you throw her way, she’ll give you a straight, honest answer.
- And yeah, she's definitely been through some serious stuff in her life. ☕

- Definitely.
- Hmm, I suspect she might be intentionally projecting a flawed image of herself.☕
- She seems to lean heavily on persuasion; she loves being nudged to open up because it keeps her at the center of attention.
- It isn't just one misfortune, but rather a series of them—almost like she's feeding off the drama.

Furthermore, it isn't merely sadness we're seeing here; there is a palpable craving for attention involved.

Just walk away from her!
I've met people like that before.
You can feel bad for them, but you can't change who they are.
Honestly, I don't think masochism is even real, so you can't really be a masochist.
Bad people actually get a kick out of hurting others.
The headline says this person calls themselves evil, but then you say you *think* they're evil? Pick one.
Are you talking about yourself?
Get away from her.
If you're seriously looking for pain in your life, you might as well grab an axe and chop your own legs off! - no joke.

That’s just how you see it. I see things differently. You asked what WE thought 🤷
Well, you asked, and as you can see, it didn't take me long to give you an answer (in your face!)

I guess I’m back to square one because of a few things:
-is this person actually being objective?
-are they prone to exaggerating just to ease their own conscience?
-could there be some underlying issue at play?
-basically, can we even trust this person's perspective or sense of reality?

And even if they're right and the person really is "evil," it all comes down to scale. How much damage are we talking about, and how is this person defining "evil" in the first place?..
(for instance, someone might call a person evil for having dark thoughts toward a neighbor—which is pretty harmless—versus actual criminal behavior where they've actually crossed the line..)

John Cruz4 said:I have actually encountered someone quite like this before. It is my belief that true malice often stems from deep-seated sadness, which then evolves into profound disappointment; consequently, I view such an individual as being inherently malevolent.
We are listening!

What on earth are you saying about me on the forums? 😕 😁

It’s pretty rare to find someone who actually looks in the mirror and thinks, "Yeah, I'm a bad person," let alone goes out and tells everyone else about it. Most people are absolute experts at spinning their own stories, twisting things around just enough to make their questionable choices seem reasonable or even necessary 🙂

Honestly, it probably boils down to some deep-seated insecurities causing them to have such a warped self-image—and hey, you can't rule out the possibility that they're just doing it all for the attention 🤷

By the way, where am I even supposed to move this thing: psychology or philosophy? That's the million-dollar question right there. 🤔 Actually, looking at it again, I’m leaning toward psychology. 🙂

Sure, "evil" stems from sorrow... though maybe it’s just pure stupidity—who knows? Negative life experiences, perhaps... In any case, there is ALWAYS some kind of excuse available.

I suppose I’m the villain here. People tend to be rather unkind, and since I don't exactly fit the mold of a saint, well... that's just how it goes, I guess.

How should we view someone like this? Personally, I think they’re just fishing for attention and looking for excuses to cover up their own failures or dodge responsibility altogether. It’s usually people who have absolutely no clue what actual malice looks like—they just spout nonsense because it’s easier to play the victim and wrap themselves in that "I'm just a bad person" armor to avoid facing reality. 🤷 It reminds me of those people struggling with mental health issues who are convinced they’re perfectly sane, or conversely, those who are completely broken but insist they're totally fine. 🙄 At the end of the day, behind all that posturing is just deep-seated dissatisfaction coupled with a total lack of willpower to actually change their circumstances...

In short, we should probably just put them all in internment camps so they stop being such a nuisance. 👍

I can’t stand people—honestly, I can’t even stand myself.

I think that person is being sincere. They aren't actually as malicious as they believe themselves to be. A truly wicked person either refuses to admit it or lacks the self-awareness to realize what they've done.

Ronald Cox52 said:Just walk away from her!
I've met people like that before.
You can feel bad for them, but you can't change who they are.
Honestly, I don't think masochism is even real, so you can't really be a masochist.
Bad people actually get a kick out of hurting others.
The headline says this person calls themselves evil, but then you say you *think* they're evil? Pick one.
Are you talking about yourself?
Get away from her.
If you're seriously looking for pain in your life, you might as well grab an axe and chop your own legs off! - no joke.

Oh, please. Me, evil? Not at all!
As I stated, if a person is filled with disappointment and bitterness, does that not imply they possess a certain level of malice?
And she was the one who explicitly labeled herself that way!

feraltrucker5 said:It’s pretty rare to find someone who actually looks in the mirror and thinks, "Yeah, I'm a bad person," let alone goes out and tells everyone else about it. Most people are absolute experts at spinning their own stories, twisting things around just enough to make their questionable choices seem reasonable or even necessary 🙂

Honestly, it probably boils down to some deep-seated insecurities causing them to have such a warped self-image—and hey, you can't rule out the possibility that they're just doing it all for the attention 🤷

He claims he wants to be a vampire; he even told me he would kill his own cat. I suggested to him that if he truly hates everything—and he did state that he loathes experiencing kindness or love—then he is either a masochist for wanting to feel good, which he countered by saying he enjoys the suffering of others, or he is simply profoundly unhappy and seeking attention. He went on to tell me how he would destroy the entire world if he weren't headed straight to prison.

Rebecca Sanders2 said:How should we view someone like this? Personally, I think they’re just fishing for attention and looking for excuses to cover up their own failures or dodge responsibility altogether. It’s usually people who have absolutely no clue what actual malice looks like—they just spout nonsense because it’s easier to play the victim and wrap themselves in that "I'm just a bad person" armor to avoid facing reality. 🤷 It reminds me of those people struggling with mental health issues who are convinced they’re perfectly sane, or conversely, those who are completely broken but insist they're totally fine. 🙄 At the end of the day, behind all that posturing is just deep-seated dissatisfaction coupled with a total lack of willpower to actually change their circumstances...

Precisely! He isn't looking for justification...
I intend to try and help him... That is why I associate with him; he is indeed a malicious soul.

I suppose a little bit of friendly self-criticism wouldn't hurt anyone.

John Cruz4 said:Oh, please. Me, evil? Not at all!
As I stated, if a person is filled with disappointment and bitterness, does that not imply they possess a certain level of malice?
And she was the one who explicitly labeled herself that way!

He claims he wants to be a vampire; he even told me he would kill his own cat. I suggested to him that if he truly hates everything—and he did state that he loathes experiencing kindness or love—then he is either a masochist for wanting to feel good, which he countered by saying he enjoys the suffering of others, or he is simply profoundly unhappy and seeking attention. He went on to tell me how he would destroy the entire world if he weren't headed straight to prison.

Precisely! He isn't looking for justification...
I intend to try and help him... That is why I associate with him; he is indeed a malicious soul.

How old is this guy? Sounds like just another sensitive, edgy emo kid to me.

I suppose that’s just what they call puberty, and eventually, it’ll pass.

shadowtrucker18 said:I suppose that’s just what they call puberty, and eventually, it’ll pass.

I was inclined to agree with that sentiment myself! Or rather, I thought so at first glance. However, I must disagree; he has delved far too deeply into this obsession, becoming quite lost in the weeds! That is precisely why his perspective seems so irrational.
Furthermore, one does not typically begin experiencing puberty at the age of nine, does one?