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#41 ·
mishamu;15611825 said:The way I see it, using a career as an example—you’ve got a job right now, but you know there’s something better out there. You might not know exactly what it is, but you definitely know this current gig isn't cutting it.sEventually, something will come along that you'll actually be excited about.[/U]

I guess so, but my problem is I won't recognize it when it happens, and then I'll just end up kicking myself later...
To be honest, I'm the type who only realizes what I had after I've already messed it up. But since I tend to overthink things, I think I'd mostly regret losing the option itself—you know, the loss of choice—rather than the specific path I could have taken.
nimbleotter18 nimbleotter18 Member
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#42 ·
Chronic indecision is basically a lifelong disease. You struggle through, making it work somehow, but it’s never going away. NEVER.
Zachary Ross6 Zachary Ross6 Newcomer
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#43 ·
I’ve dealt with some similar struggles myself, and honestly, I think that indecisiveness you're feeling stems from how you were raised—it sounds like things might have been a little too easy or pampered growing up. Look, that hesitation isn't going to just vanish overnight, but that’s really not the issue here; don't beat yourself up over it. The only thing that actually matters is focusing on building who you are right now—shaping yourself into someone steady, brave, and decisive as you move forward through life. What happened in the past is done, so there's no point in overthinking it or digging through old wounds. We should just hold onto the good memories and try to learn from our mistakes whenever they happen...
It all sounds great on paper, but at the end of the day, the real trick is actually putting it into practice and just living life to the absolute fullest!
irontiger29 irontiger29 Member
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#44 ·
Man, that stuff used to absolutely wreck my chances with girls... just this toxic mix of being indecisive, feeling totally embarrassed, and being terrified... honestly, it was the worst combo ever. But I finally sorted my head out, kind of like how that guy Neil Strauss did in his book... I started just walking down the street and actually saying hi to gorgeous women. And man, let me tell you, it worked wonders!
northernsailor northernsailor Member
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#45 ·
nimbleotter18 said:Chronic indecision is basically a lifelong disease. You struggle through, making it work somehow, but it’s never going away. NEVER.


I am in complete agreement...
I honestly believe this isn't an issue of upbringing or environment, but rather a matter of personality....
As I mentioned earlier regarding my sister, we share the exact same parents and received the same upbringing—she wasn't coddled or given any special treatment—yet the difference between us is stark...
In this instance, I see genetics at play; for example, my maternal aunt struggles with the same issue, and my sister likely inherited that specific trait from her, along with many others...🤷
One simply has to learn to live with it. It isn't necessarily pathological in the context of other psychological issues, is it?
Carol Baker6 Carol Baker6 Member
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#46 ·
"Come on, man, quit being such a wimp."

Whenever I get stuck in one of those moods, honestly, having someone just tell me exactly what’s written above is perfect. It’s usually the only thing that actually snaps me out of it.
Carol Baker6 Carol Baker6 Member
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#47 ·
They say the best generals are the ones who actually take a second to pause, weigh their options, and then just charge ahead full tilt without looking back. I mean, let’s be real—obsessing over "what if" scenarios is just a massive waste of energy and totally counterproductive.
Most of the time, this whole mess stems from someone just refusing to face reality. Usually, an indecisive person actually knows exactly what the best move is in the short term, but they just can't bring themselves to accept it. They let their wishes clash with how things actually are, which creates this giant, tangled web of overthinking and endless analysis... and then they wish they could just hit a reset button and start over, but they can't, because their brain is already a complete wreck. That’s where all that frustration and paralysis comes from.
I guess a decent way to live would just be to make the absolute most of whatever you've got right now. That’s where everything starts. Once you do that, you actually begin to grow and realize how you can—realistically—start building better opportunities for yourself.
Ronald Morales2 Ronald Morales2 Member
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#48 ·
People get indecisive because they're too worked up. You gotta cool your head first. Once the emotions die down, making a call is way easier.
But don't overthink it either, or you'll get nowhere. Like I said before: overanalyzing leads to nothing. Just look at US cops or firefighters—they have to make split-second decisions.
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Jacob Wood9 Jacob Wood9 Active Member
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#49 ·
So, where did you end up finishing your degree... in Nazi Germany?

pathological indecisiveness
Anthony Hayes27 Anthony Hayes27 Newcomer
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#50 ·
..what my grandmother would have said... you've got some nerve... you're practically begging for a fight...
Christian Sanchez4 Christian Sanchez4 Active Member
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#51 ·
Anonymous said:I guess so, but my problem is I won't recognize it when it happens, and then I'll just end up kicking myself later...
To be honest, I'm the type who only realizes what I had after I've already messed it up. But since I tend to overthink things, I think I'd mostly regret losing the option itself—you know, the loss of choice—rather than the specific path I could have taken.

Folks, you learn from your mistakes. There really isn't any other way—at least not a healthy one. You can't protect yourself from making a mistake, nor should you try. Mistakes are welcome; embrace them.😁 True intelligence isn't about doing everything perfectly, ideally, and flawlessly. That’s just some superhero anime trope.😁 Look around you, and you'll realize that the smartest people are those who have been through the wringer—they've been tested by fire😁 and learned through their own errors and screw-ups.
Just live.
steelskipper4 steelskipper4 Member
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#52 ·
Pol Pot, have you ever actually sat down with the works of George Ivanovich Gurdjieff? He makes the exact point you're currently wrestling with—that you feel a total lack of agency over your own existence. In fact, his whole thesis is that most people are essentially sleepwalking through life, their actions being nothing more than "mechanical" reactions triggered by random EXTERNAL circumstances, much like what you've been noticing lately. He also dives into this idea of human fragmentation, the delusion that we possess some sort of single, permanent "Self" when we really don't.

Anonymous said:I am incredibly, paralyzingly indecisive. It’s a struggle that has haunted me for years, but it really started eating me alive once I finished college.

Life was easy enough when I was just following the script—elementary school, high school, moving along like everyone else. When it came time to pick a major, I spent forever agonizing over whether to go for a technical degree or something more liberal arts, or which specific track to take. I eventually scraped by with a choice, though looking back, I feel like I've made almost every decision since then wrong.

That suffocating feeling of being unable to choose really kicked in after I got my diploma. It usually follows this exact pattern:

1. Should I join the military or look for a civilian job? One option offered a stable career path, but I had no idea if that was actually what I wanted. Looking back now, I actually kind of regret not going, but at the time, I just couldn't wrap my head around it. By the time the window for active duty closed, I ended up in a civilian role instead.— SO, IT WASN'T REALLY A CHOICE I MADE; CIRCUMSTANCES DECIDED FOR ME. Even today, I still can't tell if I made the right call.

2. Should I take a job at a small local startup or aim for a massive corporation like Amazon or Google, even if the work would be entry-level and totally unrelated to my degree? Once the deadline passed for the big corporate applications, I just defaulted to the small firm.— IN OTHER WORDS, THE EXPIRATION DATE MADE THE DECISION FOR ME.

3. Around that same time, I met an amazing girl. But instead of stepping up, I played these weird games of "hot and cold," acting like this polished, successful engineer when I was really just winging it. I couldn't make a move. By the time I finally realized how much she meant to me, she had already moved on to someone more decisive.— AGAIN, I DIDN'T MAKE A CHOICE; I JUST LET LIFE HAPPEN TO ME..

4. After joining that small firm, I quickly realized it was a shady, poorly run operation. Still, I clung to it, telling myself, "At least I'm working in my field." I was too paralyzed to decide whether to quit, so I stayed until the whole company basically collapsed.— ONCE MORE, FATE AND CIRCUMSTANCE MADE THE CALL, NOT ME.

5. I accepted the next available job offer, even though I wasn't sure about it. I kept telling myself I needed to keep leveling up and hunting for something better, but I lacked the guts to actually pull the trigger on a big career move. Maybe I was just blind, or maybe I was just waiting for the company to fail so that DESTINY COULD DECIDE MY NEXT MOVE FOR ME AGAIN.

6. I dated someone else, but I constantly pressured her with questions about whether we were "meant to be"—almost like I was trying to force her to give me the answer I couldn't find myself. We broke up, and I wasn't even sure if that was the right move. History repeated itself: while I was sitting there overthinking whether to try and win her back, she had already found someone else.— ONCE AGAIN, I LEFT IT UP TO CHANCE AND CIRCUMSTANCE.

7. A friend offered to help me transition into a new role at a different company, but I couldn't commit. It's like I lack basic common sense sometimes; I just couldn't decide. I think I was just waiting for the "perfect moment" that never comes. Well, that moment passed. When I finally called the hiring manager to ask for another week to think it over, he told me he'd already hired someone else. And honestly? Part of me felt relieved because the decision was taken out of my hands.— I HAD ONCE AGAIN SURRENDERED MY FUTURE TO SOMEONE ELSE, and technically, I should be upset about that.

8. I bought a car, but I spent the entire time wondering if I should have taken out a loan for a newer model or if buying used was the smarter play. Predictably, I ended up pulling the trigger only when the very last one at that specific price point was left on the lot. I didn't buy it because I wanted it; I bought it out of a fear of missing a deal.
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Basically, this graveyard of missed professional opportunities is starting to choke my personal life, too. My romantic life looks just as messy because, in that arena, I haven't been able to make a single real decision, and the ones I did manage to make turned out to be total disasters.
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X-Y. It happens when I'm just buying clothes, too. I'll try everything on and leave the sales clerk standing there in complete confusion because I can't commit to a single item. If only I were this indecisive about my wardrobe and not my entire existence.

So, what's wrong with my brain?🤷
Is it a lack of courage?
Am I just lazy?
Or maybe I'm just too picky?
Maybe I wasn't built to lead, but more like a mule that needs someone constantly barking orders at it?
Or maybe I’m actually fine and just spiraling?
Or am I just a coward who's terrified of my own shadow?

I was a top-tier student, and honestly, people in my social circle think pretty highly of me. But deep down, I’m miserable. I simply don't have a clue what my life looks like six months from now, let alone five years down the line. I’m just letting life happen to me. It feels like since I graduated, I haven't even moved an inch forward.

I overanalyze everything to death every time I have to make a choice. It’s cost me countless sleepless nights, and I still walk away feeling like I picked the wrong path every single time. I think the stress is even starting to mess with my blood pressure. I don't know how to fix this. I have zero vision and the uncertainty of the future is eating me alive.

A few times in my life, I actually made the right call and it paid off big time, but lately, that sense of reward is gone. I don't feel like I'm on the right track anymore, so I can't even commit to anything. I end up looking incompetent, even though I know deep down that isn't true.

Long story short:

I don't know. Honestly, I have no idea what would actually make me happy. I don't know what's wrong with me. I find a reason to quit in every single situation....
If I actually knew what brought me joy, I’d go after it, but right now, nothing feels worth the effort. I clearly have a broken decision-making process...
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Does anyone have any advice? Has anyone else felt this way? Any book recommendations? What is actually going on in my head? What do I need to let go of? What should I be working on?
Is there any hope for me?

If you head over to this link, check out the "Gnosticism" folder, and you'll find these specific titles to get you started:

"view from the real world"
"Life is Real When I am Alive"
"quarter path"
"In Search of Miracles"

... and after that, if you're still hungry for more, you can wander through the rest of his bibliography. Honestly, what I've listed here is plenty to give you a starting point to recognize your own patterns in his writing.

The subsequent books will guide you toward understanding this massive anomaly that has plagued human history: the "inner monologue"—that relentless, torrential stream of thought flowing through the mind, and how devastatingly it impacts an individual who mistakenly identifies themselves as those very thoughts! Most people aren't even aware they've lost the steering wheel to the constant chatter in their heads; they just passively listen to it. Very few people actually possess the capacity for absolute mastery over their thoughts—the ability to bring that stream to a complete standstill.

Eckhart Tolle - "power of the present moment" - download
Mark R. Leary - "The Curse of the Self: Self-Awareness, Egotism, and the quality of human life" - download
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#53 ·
Christian Sanchez4 said:Folks, you learn from your mistakes. There really isn't any other way—at least not a healthy one. You can't protect yourself from making a mistake, nor should you try. Mistakes are welcome; embrace them.😁 True intelligence isn't about doing everything perfectly, ideally, and flawlessly. That’s just some superhero anime trope.😁 Look around you, and you'll realize that the smartest people are those who have been through the wringer—they've been tested by fire😁 and learned through their own errors and screw-ups.
Just live.

Yeah, I agree. But learning from mistakes is a bit tricky for me because I don't actually know what I want most of the time, so I can't always tell if I even made the wrong call.
It sucks—I always find a reason to go for it and a reason to back off, so I end up stuck unable to make a single decision...🤷
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#54 ·
steelskipper4 said:Pol Pot, have you ever actually sat down with the works of George Ivanovich Gurdjieff? He makes the exact point you're currently wrestling with—that you feel a total lack of agency over your own existence. In fact, his whole thesis is that most people are essentially sleepwalking through life, their actions being nothing more than "mechanical" reactions triggered by random EXTERNAL circumstances, much like what you've been noticing lately. He also dives into this idea of human fragmentation, the delusion that we possess some sort of single, permanent "Self" when we really don't.

If you head over to this link, check out the "Gnosticism" folder, and you'll find these specific titles to get you started:

"view from the real world"
"Life is Real When I am Alive"
"quarter path"
"In Search of Miracles"

... and after that, if you're still hungry for more, you can wander through the rest of his bibliography. Honestly, what I've listed here is plenty to give you a starting point to recognize your own patterns in his writing.

The subsequent books will guide you toward understanding this massive anomaly that has plagued human history: the "inner monologue"—that relentless, torrential stream of thought flowing through the mind, and how devastatingly it impacts an individual who mistakenly identifies themselves as those very thoughts! Most people aren't even aware they've lost the steering wheel to the constant chatter in their heads; they just passively listen to it. Very few people actually possess the capacity for absolute mastery over their thoughts—the ability to bring that stream to a complete standstill.

Eckhart Tolle - "power of the present moment" - download
Mark R. Leary - "The Curse of the Self: Self-Awareness, Egotism, and the quality of human life" - download

Thanks, but Wikipedia just says he was a mystic. I haven't heard of him. Seems more like a theorist to me, and I need actual, practical help.🙂
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#55 ·
Ronald Morales2;15669025 said:People struggle with indecision. You need to let your head "cool down" first; once the emotions settle, making a choice becomes much easier...
But you can't overthink things either, or you'll end up stuck. (I saw somewhere that overthinking leads nowhere—just look at police officers or firefighters who have to make split-second calls)
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From CNN:
Whether life dealt you a winning hand or a losing one, play your cards as best as you can. Take full ownership of your wins and your losses, your right moves and your mistakes, even your choice of partners or friends. That’s what Dr. Phil, famous for his appearances on the Oprah Winfrey Show, says. In the movie of your life, you're the lead actor, and if you aren't happy with the script, stop blaming everyone else. Face your problems head-on.
If you hate your job, that's on you. If you've picked up extra weight that's weighing you down, you're the only one who can fix it. If you're miserable in your relationship or your social circle, you own that too. You are the one in control of your circumstances and the emotions they trigger. If you want to change something you're unhappy with, stop playing the victim and making excuses for your shortcomings. That's not a winning strategy for a meaningful life.

Thoughts can either liberate you or eat away at your soul.
Dr. Phil compares life to driving a car, noting that you need to grab the wheel because you are the sole driver from start to finish. You are your own manager, so hold yourself to a high standard in everything you do. Take pride in how you carry yourself, learn to master your emotions, strengthen your friendships, conquer your fears, and just be yourself. These are the essentials for living the life you actually want. Just remember to balance your potential with your expectations. Don't aim for impossible standards, but if you don't demand more from yourself, the quality of human life will suffer.
Don't let hatred, anger, or bitterness take the driver's seat; they drive up stress levels, drain your energy, and corrode the spirit. They are the enemies of inner peace that extinguish any spark of joy. Negative emotions act like poison in friendships and romances, and the only antidote is learning how to forgive. Forgiveness breaks the chains of resentment. You should forgive for your own sake, not for the person who hurt you. You don't need to wait for an apology or a confession of guilt; forgive them just to protect your own peace of mind.

It's easy to find great advice, but hard to actually live it. Plus, how do you even figure out what you really want out of life?
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#56 ·
Quincy:
The phrase "stop being such a wimp" is what people say:
"Man, quit whining like you're some kind of snowflake."

Whenever I get stuck in one of those moods, honestly, nothing snaps me out of it better than someone telling me exactly what's written above. It's the perfect wake-up call.
I don't usually snap out of it until my competitors have already left me in the dust.
Christian Sanchez4 Christian Sanchez4 Active Member
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#57 ·
Anonymous said:Yeah, I agree. But learning from mistakes is a bit tricky for me because I don't actually know what I want most of the time, so I can't always tell if I even made the wrong call.
It sucks—I always find a reason to go for it and a reason to back off, so I end up stuck unable to make a single decision...🤷

You have to commit eventually. You can't just get lost in a constant loop of checking and double-checking.😬
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#58 ·
Zachary Ross6 said:I’ve dealt with some similar struggles myself, and honestly, I think that indecisiveness you're feeling stems from how you were raised—it sounds like things might have been a little too easy or pampered growing up. Look, that hesitation isn't going to just vanish overnight, but that’s really not the issue here; don't beat yourself up over it. The only thing that actually matters is focusing on building who you are right now—shaping yourself into someone steady, brave, and decisive as you move forward through life. What happened in the past is done, so there's no point in overthinking it or digging through old wounds. We should just hold onto the good memories and try to learn from our mistakes whenever they happen...
It all sounds great on paper, but at the end of the day, the real trick is actually putting it into practice and just living life to the absolute fullest!

Yeah, maybe I did have it a bit too easy growing up, but I also think this is just part of my DNA.
I haven't really found myself yet, so it's hard to even figure out where I fit in. To be honest, I catch myself just following what everyone else is doing, even if I won't admit it to myself.
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#59 ·
Christian Sanchez4 said:You have to commit eventually. You can't just get lost in a constant loop of checking and double-checking.😬

It's hard for me to say I have a clear edge in any of my decisions. Everything is just a blur of nuances, or like I mentioned in my first post, it all comes down to the circumstances. Honestly, I just end up re-analyzing everything from scratch for the 185th time.
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#60 ·
I try to approach my life decisions through a statistical lens... basically just looking at what everyone else would do if they were in my shoes.

It’s like being a kid in a high school classroom; when you blank on a test question, you end up glancing around to see what the smart kids next to you are scribbling down. That’s pretty much how I handle life—I scan my surroundings to see what people are doing because I honestly have no clue how things work or what’s actually best for me. I guess I lack the social intuition needed to spot opportunities or red flags. My only move is trying to mimic the people around me. It would be a lot easier if everyone around me acted consistently, but even they can't make up their minds! So I end up right back where I started, stuck in this loop of "decision paralysis," wondering which version of someone else I should copy.

Besides, I’m fully aware that I’m not them. A choice that 90% of the population would make might not actually suit me. Maybe I’m part of that 10% who would actually thrive by choosing the road less traveled.

I was reading some stuff online lately, and it suggested that indecision stems from a profound lack of self-awareness and understanding of one's own character. I think there’s a lot of truth to that, but how does one even go about "finding themselves"?

I had this brilliant realization once, but I couldn't quite muster the guts to actually pull it off. What if I started intentionally making the "wrong" choices? You know, picking the options that feel intuitively bad for me. It would either prove that my gut instincts have been solid all along, or it would completely shatter my perspective and show me that I've been choosing poorly out of pure fear. I really should give this method a shot—maybe take a little more of a gamble on life...🙂

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