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How long does the honeymoon phase actually last?

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Benjamin Rodriguez13 Benjamin Rodriguez13 Newcomer
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#41 ·
hiddenhound3 said:Well, I suppose... if memory serves, he used to link those anima/animus archetypes directly back to our parents. Specifically, Jung noted that he recognized his own anima in a woman who possessed a neck and hair remarkably similar to his mother's. It follows, then, that we inevitably recognize something familiar from our past experiences when we fall in love with someone else.

I believe it is vital to understand how we all essentially reflect one another; when we fall for another person, we are, in truth, falling for ourselves and the collection of memories we carry.

Perhaps I am being a bit too romantic about the whole thing, but that is simply my perspective.

I have been in love for a year now, and I see no end in sight.😍 In fact, everything just feels more intense.😁

Good sex can definitely extend the honeymoon phase... or at least make it feel like an addiction to the person. Hmm... I should probably dig deeper into how love floods the brain beyond just the oxytocin. But briefly: it's an addiction. P.S. Am I off base here, but when women have great sex, they tend to stick around... no matter how much of a mess the guy is. Or is that just a myth?
Benjamin Rodriguez13 Benjamin Rodriguez13 Newcomer
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#42 ·
If you ask me... based on what I've seen, infatuation lasts about as long as an active MDMA run. You can burn yourself out in a month—same thing happens with a partner. But if you're careful with the dosage, it can easily stretch to a year... though eventually, even MDMA loses its spark. Why do I say that? Because it mimics infatuation perfectly by hitting those same neural pathways. Back in the day, MDMA was actually used for couples where the initial spark had died out. Love was there, sure, but the passion was gone—even in marriage! They used MDMA to reignite that feeling. That all continued right up until 1985, when the US government finally banned it.
gentlebison2 gentlebison2 Newcomer
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#43 ·
Two years, six months, fifteen days, eight hours, and thirty seconds.
Though, I suppose time is entirely subjective. If you happen to be a blonde, it feels more like two years, six months, fifteen days, four hours, and fifteen seconds; if you have dark hair, it stretches to two years, six months, ten days, eight hours, and five seconds. But fundamentally, that first measurement remains the most accurate.
bluejackal77 bluejackal77 Newcomer
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#44 ·
It really comes down to a lot of variables, particularly one's level of self-confidence, and whether people choose to lead with their heads rather than their impulses... unfortunately, these things aren't often just a symptom of deeper psychological issues nowadays ☕
Kenneth Campbell Kenneth Campbell Member
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#45 ·
Falling in love happens spontaneously and autonomously; consciousness can barely influence it, if at all. However, conscious will can still exert an influence in specific ways.
If we examine the phenomenon of "libido" (psychic energy)—a concept many psychologists either dismiss or confine strictly to Freudian frameworks—we can use libido theory to explain the dynamic processes within psychological events and the causal elements that drive them. It is evident that biochemical factors play a significant role in the background, occasionally acting as the primary drivers...
We assign importance to certain objects (libidinal preoccupation), giving them specific value to the subject. Our internal hierarchy of priorities is essentially a byproduct of this libidinal investment or the value we attach to certain things, whether they be ideas, people, or otherwise. This often occurs unconsciously and autonomously. Whether I currently prefer vanilla ice cream over orange juice depends entirely on which holds higher current value (libido). Similarly, the choice of activities, friends, or romantic partners is a matter of libidinal preoccupation, playing out internally as psychological constructs...
It is possible for a feeling of love toward a potential object—male or female—to float freely before a specific target is even identified. Occasionally, quite suddenly, this accumulated romantic libido projects onto a specific object, triggering the state of falling in love. In this state, a massive investment of value (libido) overrides reason or consciousness; the old adage "love is madness" holds true. The object gains a deterministic value that overwhelms the entire conscious state. There are countless examples of individuals performing actions in a state of infatuation that they would never consider while "sober." Falling in love is akin to a state of hypnosis; it brings a pleasant emotional tone, a sense of comfort, tranquility, general happiness, or even a mystical feeling of omnipotence and oneness with the universe. Of course, it is highly individual. For this state to occur, one must project an idealized image onto the object. This image is formed by individual childhood experiences regarding how objects are perceived, combined with an instinctive predisposition known as the primal image. The latter is an innate disposition to react this way when triggered by external stimuli, backed by heavy emotional weight. This is why we speak of projecting a highly charged primal image onto an object, granting it immense value through pure instinct...
If a specific object lacks inherent value, its significance can be increased under certain circumstances through conscious "rituals," whether collective or individual. Some psychologists call this habituation, though not every similar process fits that definition...

Over time, an object may abruptly lose its value without any external provocation. This sometimes happens if the actual object fails to live up to the projected image. We assume the projected image clings to the concrete object, attributing qualities to it that it rarely possesses in reality. The subject lives in an illusion, but when the gap between the image and the reality becomes too wide, disappointment sets in, leading to a sudden withdrawal from or replacement of the object. This phenomenon is common among fragmented personalities (neurosis), where incredible projections occur across all aspects of life. A fractured personality balance and the loss of the conscious libido required for healthy, developed individuals plays a major role here...
For certain personality types, sexuality or love plays only a secondary role. It appears that the primary drive for possession, power, and validation is what dictates behavior, while love is merely utilized as a tool to achieve those ends. In some, this happens unconsciously; in others, it is exploited consciously. For such individuals, infatuation lasts only until the impression of possessing the object is achieved. Once attained, they gradually fall out of love, discarding the object to seek a new victim. This phenomenon is particularly pronounced in certain hysterical characters and is referred to as "vampirism."

Naturally, if love is genuine, that initial infatuation won't last forever. It fades over time, but what remains is the true core: the capacity to love, to be selfless, to empathize, and to maintain a sense of moral responsibility toward one's partner. That is the fundamental prerequisite for a stable marriage or any meaningful relationship; it’s the only real guarantee for longevity. Anything else is just self-interest or manipulation, which falls squarely into the realm of pathological behavior.
If an individual can successfully integrate their own personality—reconciling their inner contradictions and conflicts while maintaining a balanced perspective on love—then a harmonious, lasting relationship becomes a realistic expectation.
But let's be honest, and I think we all know this... sometimes the partner is the one creating the friction and complications. They become the source of the chaos, objectively projecting issues that inevitably lead to misunderstandings and conflict within the relationship.
John Johnson16 John Johnson16 Member
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#46 ·
In my own experience, the entire process of falling in love lasts perhaps only a few fleeting minutes. It begins with that rush of affection, only for me to be suddenly jolted back to reality by the realization that this person is a mere mortal who must attend to their basic physiological needs—and I can't help but worry about the potential mess if they happen to deal with an upset stomach.
Best regards...
Brenda Richardson3 Brenda Richardson3 Newcomer
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#47 ·
If my memory serves, I recall reading somewhere that being "infatuated" is defined as lasting anywhere from a few months to a year.

My own experiences vary wildly. Sometimes, the spark ignites and vanishes almost instantly.

Other times, it stretches out over years—first as infatuation, then evolving into love, with those intense bursts of infatuation resurfacing periodically within the relationship.
That feeling is quite pleasant, 🙂
Jamie Davis9 Jamie Davis9 Active Member
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#48 ·
Benjamin Rodriguez13 said:Good sex can definitely extend the honeymoon phase... or at least make it feel like an addiction to the person. Hmm... I should probably dig deeper into how love floods the brain beyond just the oxytocin. But briefly: it's an addiction. P.S. Am I off base here, but when women have great sex, they tend to stick around... no matter how much of a mess the guy is. Or is that just a myth?

🙄

It's a myth.
Bryan Smith5 Bryan Smith5 Newcomer
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#49 ·
A whole year?! Give me a break.☕
I mean, I was head over heels for one guy for ten full years. Honestly? That final year felt just as intense as the first day..😳
Matthew Castillo5 Matthew Castillo5 Regular
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#50 ·
Bryan Smith5 said:A whole year?! Give me a break.☕
I mean, I was head over heels for one guy for ten full years. Honestly? That final year felt just as intense as the first day..😳

As for me, I’ve been crushing on the same guy for thirteen years now... yeah, I actually fell for him back in the last millennium. 🙈 😁
Emily Brooks63 Emily Brooks63 Newcomer
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#51 ·
So, I was just getting into this massive, heated debate with a friend the other day about whether being "infatuated" and actually being "in love" are even remotely the same thing, and honestly, we almost came to blows over it 😬 He’s convinced they’re one and the same, but I’m standing my ground here—they aren't ☕ To me, they’re two totally distinct vibes that might overlap sometimes, but they definitely don't have to. Infatuation feels more like this fleeting, milder phase that you can eventually shake off 😁 whereas actual love is way more complicated, much harder to move on from, and for some people, it stays forever. At least, that's what I've seen play out in my own life. Over the last few years, I've had several little crushes where things felt intense for a bit, but then the feeling just... evaporated. Now, when I run into those people, it's like there was never even a spark 🤷 But with my current boyfriend, I genuinely love him and can actually see a future together, and if we ever broke up, I don't think that love would just vanish overnight. It’s funny because everyone talks about those famous "butterflies in your stomach," but I never really got that whole sensation with him, except maybe at the very start, and even then it was more just this warm, pleasant glow deep down 🙂
I actually know this girl who is probably still hung up on her first boyfriend in some way; they haven't been together for maybe 3 or 4 years now, but she’s basically obsessed. Every time she sees him, she gets those butterflies and that desperate need to reach out or be near him. I guess it really is different for everyone.
northernharbor32 northernharbor32 Member
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#52 ·
wiredcrane11 said:There isn't really one definitive answer to this, but I think it's worth having a little discussion about it🙂
For instance, I remember watching a TV special a year or two ago—I can't recall the exact title—where they discussed oxytocin. It’s that hormone our brains release when we fall in love, providing us with the kind of energy that, given the right circumstances, drives us to build a family. People often refer to it as the loyalty hormone.🙂It also gets released during breastfeeding because there are direct neural pathways from the breast to the brain where oxytocin is produced. That explains why mothers feel such an intense bond with their babies and why they light up so much just seeing a baby smile.😁In that same program, they mentioned that the initial phase of being "in love" typically lasts about three years. After that point, other factors take over, and if a marriage survives, it means either that the infatuation successfully transitioned into deep love, or the couple found a different common ground, such as financial stability, raising children, or perhaps even complementary psychological dynamics like BDSM.😁

Well, that is one way to look at it. Another perspective comes from Jung's theories regarding the projection of the anima or animus onto a partner. Once those projections fade, that blissful intoxication tapers off because you finally start seeing the person for who they truly are. The outcome follows the same logic as the previous paragraph.🙂

If you have recently read anything by other psychologists or authors regarding the nature of falling in love, please share... or just tell me about your own experiences.🙂

As long as my partner respects my feelings, supports me unconditionally, and understands my perspectives well enough that we can talk forever...😉
brightraven35 brightraven35 Newcomer
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#53 ·
No offense intended toward anyone here, but this question feels a bit pointless. This whole thing could wrap up in ten minutes or drag on for a decade. I’m talking about being infatuated, not actual love. Love is something you learn over a lifetime, whereas infatuation is just a temporary chemical spike in your brain.
Sarah Ramos12 Sarah Ramos12 Newcomer
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#54 ·
So, I was just reading some stuff about being in love—you know, whether there’s actually a set expiration date on that whole feeling. Honestly, that show they were talking about felt totally off base. Like, saying a mother can't "fall in love" with her baby because it's just part of some biological process? That's such a flawed theory. Moms love their kids. Period. And even when they grow up and aren't those tiny, cute little things anymore, that love stays. It becomes this thing you choose, a purpose, a gift you've built with your own will. To me, if anyone asks "what's the point of living?", that right there is the answer. But then you have regular "falling in love," which is different. You see someone and—boom—it's their smile, their eyes, their body, whatever. In my book, that phase lasts exactly as long as you haven't memorized every single detail. Once your brain builds this perfect, hyper-detailed mental image of them, you start to get bored. You stop missing the little things because you've got them all filed away in your head. Then, once they're gone, you start missing them again because you can't just conjure them up. Anyway, that's why "being in love" and "loving someone" are two completely different animals. I read a whole deep dive on this earlier, but man, it was a massive essay... lol.
Sarah Ramos12 Sarah Ramos12 Newcomer
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#55 ·
Bryan Smith5 said:A whole year?! Give me a break.☕
I mean, I was head over heels for one guy for ten full years. Honestly? That final year felt just as intense as the first day..😳

Okay, hold up—you weren't "in love" with him, you loved him for ten years... there's a massive difference. People constantly mix up being infatuated with actually loving someone. You can fall in love with a pair of designer shoes or some flashy jewelry; you get obsessed for a bit, then they get old and you toss them in a closet or lose them somewhere. But you don't *love* a person like that. When you truly love someone—flaws, quirks, everything included—that doesn't just evaporate. Not after spending such a huge, beautiful chunk of your life building memories together..
William Williams7 William Williams7 Member
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#56 ·
Crushes usually follow one of two paths: they either evolve into something deeper or they just fizzle out. There’s actually a chance a crush can linger for ages if there’s distance between you and the person—if you never really establish a real connection or build a life together.

We end up feeding that obsession, nurturing this little flicker of hope that maybe, just maybe, something could happen. We can stay stuck in that loop for years. It usually takes a massive reality check to snap us out of it. Like that old song says, it often takes doing or die—one wrong move or one big mistake—to finally wake us up to the truth.
Maria Jackson93 Maria Jackson93 Newcomer
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#57 ·
In my case, love—or maybe just this crushing infatuation? It’s been a disaster, naturally (🤦) and it's dragged on for over four years now. 🙂
I keep waiting for it to finally 🙂 pass me by, but nothing happens... 🙂
jadewolf16 jadewolf16 Active Member
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#58 ·
If you don't make it happen, you just don't stop—I mean, look at me, I've been at this for 21 years!
Nicholas Gonzalez8 Nicholas Gonzalez8 Regular
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#59 ·
Falling in love isn't the same thing as actual love—though when they finally collide, man, it can be one hell of an experience 🙂

1. Look, infatuation basically happens because you're stuck in this loop where you just obsess over someone's best qualities. You’ve got these mental snapshots of them playing on repeat in your head, essentially just reinforcing your own crush over and over again.

2. The spark dies out once you stop dwelling on them, or—and this is the kicker—once you start nitpicking all their flaws. It's like any other investment; if you poured way too much emotional capital into the honeymoon phase, you're probably going to have to work twice as hard to dig yourself out of that hole later on.

When you strip away all the drama, the whole thing is actually pretty straightforward 🙂
stormyjackal26 stormyjackal26 Newcomer
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#60 ·
For those who claim you can't control it, you actually can influence how you fall in love.
Examples include The Silva Method, EMDR, hypnosis, and various other techniques...
I’m speaking from experience.

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