Iraq War

goldensailor15 said:When you crunch all the numbers and look at the big picture, you're left with the cold reality that this whole thing was essentially a profiteering venture. All those millions of lives lost—a number that keeps climbing even today—were treated as nothing more than acceptable collateral damage.

Funny coming from a fanatic who backs Islamic regimes where they literally amputate limbs for adultery. 😂

swiftcrane96 said:I don't think any conflict the USA has been involved in since Vietnam has stirred up quite as much controversy or dust as the war in Iraq. When most people think about war, their minds immediately go to the casualties and the sheer destruction left in its wake. But for certain corporations, Iraq turned out to be an incredible gold mine. Take Halliburton, for example; they managed to rake in over $17 billion in just three years through military base construction and oil well repairs. Then you have Veritas Capital, which saw massive returns when their subsidiary, DynCorp, pulled in $1.4 billion to train the new Iraqi police force. Even Washington Group International walked away with $931 million from oil field maintenance and repairs. If you're curious about the other companies that cashed in on the conflict, you can check out the details here: http://www.businesspundit.com/the-25...ar-profiteers/

Copy-pasted from Monitor HR

Pretty heavy-duty claims here... but if the basic company info is wrong, how am I supposed to trust any of these numbers? If the author can't even get the fundamentals right, the whole thing falls apart.

Robin Hernandez4 said:If it weren't for Iran constantly pouring money into terrorist groups and sending their proxy forces to stir up trouble and arm militants, Iraq would have been peaceful a long time ago. But honestly, things in Iraq are actually looking up more and more every single day.

Absolute nonsense.

Fact-1. Iran supports the democratically elected Iraqi government, as evidenced by the recent visits from Ahmadinejad official Baghdad to the Iraqi Prime Minister Talabanij in official Tehran.

Fact-2. Iran only supports the Shia "Mahdi" paramilitary, which maintains order in Shia neighborhoods and provinces—an organization the Americans don't even officially classify as "terrorist."

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...216482347.html Eleven Americans have been killed since the start of the month—stay safe out there.

redcyclist33 said:Absolute nonsense.

Fact-1. Iran supports the democratically elected Iraqi government, as evidenced by the recent visits from Ahmadinejad official Baghdad to the Iraqi Prime Minister Talabanij in official Tehran.

Fact-2. Iran only supports the Shia "Mahdi" paramilitary, which maintains order in Shia neighborhoods and provinces—an organization the Americans don't even officially classify as "terrorist."

Fact-1: Iran funds and sponsors terrorism... their entire government is a terrorist regime...☕

Fact-2... Iran trains numerous terrorist organizations that kill innocent civilians across Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, and Afghanistan...☕

The Iranian government is a terrorist entity...🙂

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...191263776.html 'i heard a huge Explosion'

Even though Azamiyah used to be a major hotspot for fighting against the US and its Shia allies—before many local Sunnis eventually ditched the insurgency to join The Awakening Council—security is now handled by them working right alongside the Iraqi army and police.

"I was just grabbing stuff across the street when i heard a huge Explosion," mentioned Omar Qassim, who's part of al-Obeidi's crew.

"Parts of people were literally flying through the air. It hit me right away that Farooq's group was the target—and he was likely gone."

The whole thing went down in an area where you'll usually see families out for walks on those sweltering summer nights.

Abu Mohammed, 54, was picking up groceries nearby when the blast hit, and he said: "I ran toward the blast and just saw pure terror—people sprinting everywhere and moms screaming for their kids.

"It was absolute chaos, honestly horrific. There were bodies, people bleeding, and blood all over the pavement. Eventually, the ambulances showed up to clear out the wounded and the deceased. A few shops nearby took some hits too."

Keep in mind, Al-Qaeda in Iraq Has often targeted leaders of The Awakening Council.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...934252121.html Five Iraqi army officers and 15 police officers were killed—plus some civilians too.

Can anyone give me a straight answer on the current state of the war in Iraq? I was talking to a Danish journalist yesterday, and his take was that while Americans are losing ground in Afghanistan, the situation in Iraq is a total nightmare by comparison. The logic is simple: you can pull out of Afghanistan any day without much fallout, but if the US pulls out of Iraq, all hell breaks loose. I want to know—how much are the local authorities, whether they're Sunni, Shia, or Kurdish, actually cooperating with the Americans? And more importantly, how much territory is the US occupation force actually controlling right now?

Americans just don't get the art of warfare...

Let those "terrorists" just blast them away!

They had it coming, honestly—just look at this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1fMf8CB7jE

An occupying government? Since when did some American become the President or Prime Minister of Iraq?

I can't say I know exactly what's happening on the ground in Iraq—I don't follow the news that closely—but I do know that Americans are gradually handing over control to the Iraqi army and police force.

frozendrifter7 said:An occupying government? Since when did some American become the President or Prime Minister of Iraq?

I can't say I know exactly what's happening on the ground in Iraq—I don't follow the news that closely—but I do know that Americans are gradually handing over control to the Iraqi army and police force.

If Country X sends its military thousands of miles away to invade Country Y, and then leaves those troops sitting there in Country Y, that’s called OCCUPATION. Right?

Exactly.

See? There you go.

frozendrifter7 said:An occupying government? Since when did some American become the President or Prime Minister of Iraq?

I can't say I know exactly what's happening on the ground in Iraq—I don't follow the news that closely—but I do know that Americans are gradually handing over control to the Iraqi army and police force.

Sure, Iraq is a free and independent nation today, just like how the NDH was under Pavelić.

feralcanyon73 said:If Country X sends its military thousands of miles away to invade Country Y, and then leaves those troops sitting there in Country Y, that’s called OCCUPATION. Right?

Look who showed up...😂..some Russian shill....you're probably the last person on earth who gets to lecture anyone about morality....once you start defending the regime in Russia, you lose all right to claim any high ground.☕

redcyclist33 said:Sure, Iraq is a free and independent nation today, just like how the NDH was under Pavelić.

Maybe you could actually explain why you think Iraq isn't a free country? I'm talking about actual citizens here! Pavelić and the Nationalists in Iraq are nothing but terrorists fighting right against freedom, democracy, and what the people actually want.

Dana Brooks44 said:Look who showed up...😂..some Russian shill....you're probably the last person on earth who gets to lecture anyone about morality....once you start defending the regime in Russia, you lose all right to claim any high ground.☕

Then comes the guy throwing out "arguments" without a single shred of actual proof.🙄

feralcanyon73 said:Then comes the guy throwing out "arguments" without a single shred of actual proof.🙄

You were talking about yourself... now I'm waiting for the question. Give me proof that Putin ordered the hit.😍🤣

Bush gave the green light to pull 3,000 troops out of Iraq.

The link you shared covers the fallout from the recent tensions involving the Middle East and various global players. It’s the same old story—geopolitical chess being played with real lives on the line. Everyone's looking at how the US handles the situation in places like Iran and Iraq, wondering if we're heading toward another massive escalation. History keeps repeating itself, and honestly, most people aren't ready for what comes next. Just more chaos in the making.

Dana Brooks44 said:You were talking about yourself... now I'm waiting for the question. Give me proof that Putin ordered the hit.😍🤣

Bush gave the green light to pull 3,000 troops out of Iraq.

The link you shared covers the fallout from the recent tensions involving the Middle East and various global players. It’s the same old story—geopolitical chess being played with real lives on the line. Everyone's looking at how the US handles the situation in places like Iran and Iraq, wondering if we're heading toward another massive escalation. History keeps repeating itself, and honestly, most people aren't ready for what comes next. Just more chaos in the making.

I don't shove "arguments" down anyone's throat, I just look for facts.😛

Evidence plus Dana Brooks44 equals absolutely nothing relevant.😁

Charles Davis7 said:There's definitely an economic angle here—basically, American oil companies already have deals lined up with the new Iraqi "government" regarding those new drilling sites.

Plus, you’ve got millions of American soldiers who need jobs and paychecks—if they're just sitting around idle at bases across the US, you're looking at potential unrest, mutinies, or just total lack of discipline. Instead, they get shipped out all over the world, often with their families, risking everything in foreign lands for some seriously fat paychecks.
It’s also a way for them to field-test all kinds of new weaponry.

Then there's the third point: a massive amount of corporations are making a killing on contracts for building and maintaining military gear, planes, weapons, helicopters, and even just servicing the AC
units or providing food for the troops and their families.

It’s a massive business, honestly. International law? Doesn't really exist anymore. Human lives seem to matter less than ever when money and private interests are calling all the shots.

Well, I suppose one could argue that there really isn't any limit to where American soldiers might find themselves working for a paycheck, though I guess you could also say that a full-blown war isn't strictly necessary to make a living in that line of work. It seems to me that there are plenty of ways to be under contract without everything necessarily descending into total chaos, if you catch my drift.