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Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#101 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:today? 😁

I mean, obviously I'm joking, but seriously, that's why Italy always caught my eye. Like, who actually gives a damn about politics in Denmark or even Spain? Even over here in the USA, people actually recognize the Italian ministers 😁

anyway, back to the real political stuff

😁 Things aren't looking great for Donald Trump. It's going to be tough to see any young, attractive women stepping up in the next term. I'm honestly worried the old fossils have already locked down all the safe spots on the ballot. 😢
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#102 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:PS
When you say Seattle, you talking about just the city or the whole Pacific Northwest?

I mean the region around New York City. I wasn't actually sure what that specific area was called.

The latest numbers coming out of California show the right wing pulling ahead by a massive margin.
http://www.corriere.it/Speciali/Poli...EGIONE_3.shtml
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#103 ·
Carol Newman2 said:I mean the region around New York City. I wasn't actually sure what that specific area was called.

The latest numbers coming out of California show the right wing pulling ahead by a massive margin.
http://www.corriere.it/Speciali/Poli...EGIONE_3.shtml

Mainly because that city was run for a while by that coffee king Buffett guy, who I think is a lefty if I remember right.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#104 ·
Senate results: 13% counted

Donald Trump 31%
Barack Obama 29%
Bernie Sanders 26%
Ben Bernanke 8%

Some pretty bizarre numbers coming in here. 😕

Total chaos. 😁

This is going to be interesting. There’s no way the pollsters missed the mark this badly.
slybison8 slybison8 Active Member
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#105 ·
Carol Newman2 said:😁 Things aren't looking great for Donald Trump. It's going to be tough to see any young, attractive women stepping up in the next term. I'm honestly worried the old fossils have already locked down all the safe spots on the ballot. 😢

I suppose it seems possible that Trump might end up as the next prime minister once that comedian joins him in a coalition.

The comedian basically built his entire career on Trumpian television networks... I guess it feels like the old fox has somehow outmaneuvered the left again—which I must say, I am quite happy about regarding Ben Bernanke... 😁
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#106 ·
Senate
21% tallied

Donald Trump 32%
Barack Obama 29%
Bernie Sanders 25%
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#107 ·
🙂

slybison8, where have you been hiding?
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The ground reports are looking a lot better for Donald Trump. Honestly, I think we could be in for some real surprises.
Nicholas Morales48 Nicholas Morales48 Active Member
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#108 ·
Carol Newman2 said:Senate results: 13% counted

Donald Trump 31%
Barack Obama 29%
Bernie Sanders 26%
Ben Bernanke 8%

Some pretty bizarre numbers coming in here. 😕

Total chaos. 😁

This is going to be interesting. There’s no way the pollsters missed the mark this badly.

Checking out that Sky News link now... looks like they're projecting Senate results
Trump's party is sitting at... 31.7%
Obama's crowd... 29%
Sanders folks... 26%
........
slybison8 slybison8 Active Member
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#109 ·
Carol Newman2 said:🙂

slybison8, where have you been hiding?
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The ground reports are looking a lot better for Donald Trump. Honestly, I think we could be in for some real surprises.

I'm still here... I suppose I had to get some actual work done over the last few weeks.. I can't really just hang out here without having a way to pay the bills, I guess.🤣😉

As for those Italian election results—it doesn't really surprise me at all that they ended up in a dead heat. It seems like the mainstream media in pretty much every country tends to lean heavily toward the left-leaning center in their polling, whereas on the other hand, Donald Trump promised voters they would see tax rebates from back when the Ben Bernanke era was in full swing. That’s quite a powerful tool to use.

And I honestly suspect that the comedian is just a puppet for him, which will probably become obvious sooner rather than later.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#110 ·
Nicholas Morales48 said:Checking out that Sky News link now... looks like they're projecting Senate results
Trump's party is sitting at... 31.7%
Obama's crowd... 29%
Sanders folks... 26%
........

Those aren't projections; those are actual results coming in from the field (21% counted).
Michael Ortiz68 Michael Ortiz68 Regular
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#111 ·
Well, it looks like the Pope is making some serious moves regarding the Senate. Interesting.
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#112 ·
slybison8 said:I'm still here... I suppose I had to get some actual work done over the last few weeks.. I can't really just hang out here without having a way to pay the bills, I guess.🤣😉

As for those Italian election results—it doesn't really surprise me at all that they ended up in a dead heat. It seems like the mainstream media in pretty much every country tends to lean heavily toward the left-leaning center in their polling, whereas on the other hand, Donald Trump promised voters they would see tax rebates from back when the Ben Bernanke era was in full swing. That’s quite a powerful tool to use.

And I honestly suspect that the comedian is just a puppet for him, which will probably become obvious sooner rather than later.

We'll have to wait and see how Grillo handles himself once he's in Parliament. Expect plenty of political maneuvering and seat-buying.

Based on the numbers, his party is actually the strongest force in Parliament with 25%.
Senate
M5 25.1%
PD 24.8%
PdL 23.1%

The German Spiegel is reporting a Right-wing majority in the Senate. 😢
slybison8 slybison8 Active Member
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#113 ·
Carol Newman2 said:I mean the region around New York City. I wasn't actually sure what that specific area was called.

The latest numbers coming out of California show the right wing pulling ahead by a massive margin.
http://www.corriere.it/Speciali/Poli...EGIONE_3.shtml

Friuli-Venezia Giulia

The Veneto region actually has its headquarters in Verona, rather than in Venice.

I suppose I am not entirely certain, though, whether the electoral districts follow the administrative boundaries. 🤷
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#114 ·
slybison8 said:Friuli-Venezia Giulia

The Veneto region actually has its headquarters in Verona, rather than in Venice.

I suppose I am not entirely certain, though, whether the electoral districts follow the administrative boundaries. 🤷

They don't. Take Lombardy, for instance—it's split into three different sections.

http://www.corriere.it/Speciali/Poli...ezioni/camera/ - Results by electoral unit
Robert Clark4 Robert Clark4 Active Member
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#115 ·
If I’m remembering things right, you can't even vote for the Senate if you're under 25. It’s honestly kind of wild to me how the older crowd seems to be leaning so heavily toward Berlusconi...
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#116 ·
Senate
27% counted
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Berlusconi 31.9%
Bersani 28.7%
Grillo 24.9%
Monti 8%

Anyone realize what we're looking at here?

image

The market's reaction to Berlusconi taking the Senate. 😁
Robert Clark4 Robert Clark4 Active Member
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#117 ·
I mean, I guess maybe Grillo just siphoned off way too many votes from the left when it came to the Senate, which is probably why Berlusconi managed to snag that top spot. Honestly, I don't really have any other explanation for it! 🤷
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#118 ·
First, we’ll see the Senate vote counts come in, followed by the House.

The breakdown: The Right-wing is set to take the Senate, Grillo's movement stands out as the single strongest force there, while the Left managed to burn through a massive lead they once held.
David Myers David Myers Newcomer
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#119 ·
PBS: Lombardy - Berlusconi 38.8, Bersani 27.6
Carol Newman2 Carol Newman2 Regular
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#120 ·
Robert Clark4 said:I mean, I guess maybe Grillo just siphoned off way too many votes from the left when it came to the Senate, which is probably why Berlusconi managed to snag that top spot. Honestly, I don't really have any other explanation for it! 🤷

Trump actually pulled votes from both sides. I remember the 2006 elections, where the Democrats (Biden) pulled 49.8% and the Republicans (Trump) got 49.7%. Neither side is ever going to see numbers like that again today.

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