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Applying for a loan while living abroad

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nimblenomad26 nimblenomad26 Newcomer
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#121 ·
Ethan Taylor9 says:
I think your best bet is to scout out all the major banks in the US first to see which ones actually offer loans to non-citizens. I managed to dig up a link from Chase because they have options for foreigners, so there’s a good chance the regulations will be similar elsewhere. This should at least give you a decent starting point to see how it all works.
If you scroll down to the credit terms section, there's some extra info there.

Wait, I don't get it—are the terms there actually worse than what we're seeing at Chase?!
Ethan Taylor9 Ethan Taylor9 Member
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joined Jun 2011
#122 ·
nimblenomad26 said:Ethan Taylor9 says:
I think your best bet is to scout out all the major banks in the US first to see which ones actually offer loans to non-citizens. I managed to dig up a link from Chase because they have options for foreigners, so there’s a good chance the regulations will be similar elsewhere. This should at least give you a decent starting point to see how it all works.
If you scroll down to the credit terms section, there's some extra info there.

Wait, I don't get it—are the terms there actually worse than what we're seeing at Chase?!

See, this is just one of those loans that Chase offers specifically to foreign nationals, and honestly, I think it's pretty standard that the terms end up being a bit tougher on them compared to what our local American clients get...it doesn't seem all that unusual to me when you think about how banks operate, right?
George Chavez2 George Chavez2 Newcomer
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#123 ·
To whom it may concern, I have to say I am quite disappointed by the lack of guidance provided to local American bankers—or those claiming to be—when it comes to securing loans within European Union member states.
While digging through (and skimming) various American news outlets, I came across mentions of the supposed possibility of obtaining credit from banks outside our own borders. However, whenever I reach out to ask for specific details, nobody seems to have a straight answer or any real expertise to offer.
I’d like to pose a hypothetical scenario to you all and see if someone can help me make sense of it.
I am an American citizen living and working here in the States. I own a property that I want to renovate using funds borrowed from a bank in, say, Austria or perhaps somewhere else in Europe. Depending on how complicated the process turns out to be, the loan would either be specifically earmarked for renovations or just a general-purpose loan, with the property itself serving as collateral via a mortgage. That is the core of my request. I am wondering if this is actually a viable option and, if so, whether it makes any financial sense compared to taking out a loan from a local American bank. I actually tried testing the waters with some domestic banks by posing as a foreign national interested in an American loan secured by property located in Austria (playing on the idea of reciprocity). Every time, the response was the same: they insisted that the primary requirement is being an American citizen or having permanent residency here, meaning I would need to own property locally to use as collateral. Since the European Union has functioned as a single market for quite some time now, I would assume that their banks and capital pools don't discriminate based on citizenship within the union and have the ability to deploy capital across the entire European market. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Sorry for the long-winded post, but when every cent counts in these tough economic times, I felt I had to ask. I am sincerely hoping for some concrete information. Thank you so much in advance for your help. Best regards,
Thomas Ortiz3 Thomas Ortiz3 Active Member
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#124 ·
George Chavez2 The user says...
To be honest, I’m quite disappointed by the sheer lack of guidance provided to local bankers—and those who merely pretend to be—whenever it comes to processing loans within the European Union...

It isn’t surprising, really. You wouldn't expect to walk into a Mercedes-Benz dealership and get any useful intel on their BMW competitors...

Scanning through the American media lately, I’ve come across talk about the possibility of securing loans from banks abroad... yet every time I try to dig for actual facts or specific details, nobody seems to have a straight answer...

There have been a few threads on this subject before, and some people mentioned specific agents who handle these types of things. It might be worth digging through the archives to see if anything useful turns up... Some major banks in Austria, for instance, maintain entire departments dedicated specifically to non-residents; you might find some leads there if you look closely...

I am an American citizen currently living and working here in the States. I own a property that I’m looking to renovate, and I’m considering securing the funds through a bank in a neighboring country like Canada or Mexico. Depending on how complicated the paperwork gets, I’d either look for a dedicated home improvement loan or a more general purpose line of credit, using the property itself as collateral via a mortgage. That’s the gist of my situation. I'm wondering if this is even a viable path, and if the math actually makes sense compared to just sticking with a local US bank...

I lived and worked abroad for a while, though I never actually took out a loan myself. From what I’ve gathered, getting approved here in the States is significantly more difficult than what I experienced back home... I did some digging with a few banks, and as a resident, it’s practically impossible unless you're pulling in at least $2,000 net per month. It doesn't matter how much collateral you offer—mortgages, cash reserves, high down payments—they won't even sit down with you if your salary isn't there. Apparently, things changed around 2008... You might find some outlier bank willing to take the risk and send an appraiser out to value a property in a different state, but that's hardly standard practice...
Mortgage rates for residents sit at 1.5% plus the SOFR, bringing the total to roughly 3%, plus an additional 1% in loan fees...
It is entirely possible that an American citizen living within the European Union could qualify for a loan...

I’ve tried testing the waters with a few domestic banks by posing as a foreign national looking for a loan, using real estate in Austria as collateral—a bit of a reciprocity experiment. Every time, I hit the same wall: they insist that being a US citizen or a permanent resident is a prerequisite, or that I must own local property here to even consider a mortgage. It's frustrating... Given that the European Union operates as a single market, one would assume their banks and capital wouldn't care about borders when it comes to lending within the union...

There’s no such thing as reciprocity here; every bank plays by its own set of rules. Besides, the idea that an Austrian citizen with property in Austria could just walk into a high-cost American bank and demand a loan probably wasn't the most convincing pitch... You're looking for answers in all the wrong places, too, because American banks couldn't care less about whether a foreign institution decides to extend you credit or not. 🤷
Once we are fully integrated into the European Union, maybe things like cross-border lending will finally start to make sense...
George Chavez2 George Chavez2 Newcomer
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#125 ·
Thanks for such an exhaustive post..
velvetotter28 velvetotter28 Newcomer
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#126 ·
Hey everyone.
I’ve been lurking and reading through your posts, and I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction regarding securing a mortgage abroad? I haven't had much luck trying to navigate things here in the States. I have property I can use as collateral—that part is fine—but since I don't work for a government agency or a major corporation and instead run my own small business, I'm hitting some serious roadblocks. Basically, I'm looking for some guidance from someone who might know how to kickstart this process, because honestly, I have no clue where to even begin.

thanks
Raymond Moore28 Raymond Moore28 Newcomer
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#127 ·
Hey there!!!
Guys, I seriously need some help here!!
I'm drowning in debt—loans everywhere—and my plan is to just consolidate everything into one big mortgage to clear out all these smaller credit lines... But I'm totally stuck because I've got these outstanding balances on my Chase credit card that are blocking everything! It’s such a nightmare. So, if anyone knows any way to secure a loan outside of the US, please, please hit me up in my DMs!! Thanks
hollowraven17 hollowraven17 Newcomer
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#128 ·
Hey everyone, has anyone actually managed to pull off getting a mortgage or a home loan abroad lately? Or maybe someone here has some solid leads on who I should even be talking to?
I’ve been scrolling through all these online ads and listings, but honestly, they barely give you any actual details before hitting you with sky-high interest rates. It all feels a little shady to me, if I'm being real...
If you happen to know where or how I can secure a "NORMAL" mortgage overseas—like an actual legitimate way to do this—please shoot me a DM with a phone number or a contact person.
THANKS!
boldheron55 boldheron55 Newcomer
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#129 ·
Has anyone here dealt with loans from the UK before, specifically "State Street"? I sent over a copy of my ID and they told me the loan was basically approved. Then they gave me this code that I’m supposed to send along with my account number to a different email address of theirs just to get the funds transferred. They didn't ask for any upfront fees or anything. Anyone run into this?
George Lewis9 George Lewis9 Active Member
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#130 ·
My take? It’s probably not until we fully integrate into the European Union that people will actually be able to take out credit in another country. The bottleneck right now is that we can't effectively execute guarantee claims—think things like triggering forced collections—until we're essentially operating as "one state."
Richard Mendoza5 Richard Mendoza5 Newcomer
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#131 ·
Jesse Alvarez3 said:We haven't even made it to Chase yet because we're stuck trying to figure out the wire transfer $958 to cover the loan upfront 🙄

So, did you actually get the loan approved?
Richard Mendoza5 Richard Mendoza5 Newcomer
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#132 ·
boldheron55 said:Has anyone here dealt with loans from the UK before, specifically "State Street"? I sent over a copy of my ID and they told me the loan was basically approved. Then they gave me this code that I’m supposed to send along with my account number to a different email address of theirs just to get the funds transferred. They didn't ask for any upfront fees or anything. Anyone run into this?

I spent way too much time haggling with these types offering loans from abroad at 2-5% interest. Eventually settled on one outfit out of the UK. After endless back-and-forth and arguing over terms, I'm just sitting here waiting for the funds. They claim it takes up to five days. We'll see how that goes.
Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
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#133 ·
Richard Mendoza5 said:I spent way too much time haggling with these types offering loans from abroad at 2-5% interest. Eventually settled on one outfit out of the UK. After endless back-and-forth and arguing over terms, I'm just sitting here waiting for the funds. They claim it takes up to five days. We'll see how that goes.

How much did you end up paying them upfront for the fees?
Gerald Palmer66 Gerald Palmer66 Active Member
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#134 ·
Alexander Thompson said:How much did you end up paying them upfront for the fees?

Honestly, no matter how much she sent, I doubt she’ll ever see that money again, and I'm genuinely worried that her mortgage payment might get swallowed up during those five days.
Should I laugh, cry, or just offer my condolences for the lost cash? 🤷 ☕
Andrew Barrett4 Andrew Barrett4 Active Member
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#135 ·
Richard Mendoza5 said:I spent way too much time haggling with these types offering loans from abroad at 2-5% interest. Eventually settled on one outfit out of the UK. After endless back-and-forth and arguing over terms, I'm just sitting here waiting for the funds. They claim it takes up to five days. We'll see how that goes.

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Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
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#136 ·
Gerald Palmer66 said:Honestly, no matter how much she sent, I doubt she’ll ever see that money again, and I'm genuinely worried that her mortgage payment might get swallowed up during those five days.
Should I laugh, cry, or just offer my condolences for the lost cash? 🤷 ☕

Man, you're really digging in the dirt here... now we'll never actually know how much money went straight into the pockets of those "charities."😬
Gerald Palmer66 Gerald Palmer66 Active Member
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#137 ·
Alexander Thompson said:Man, you're really digging in the dirt here... now we'll never actually know how much money went straight into the pockets of those "charities."😬

I have always had a bit of a tendency to push my luck. 🙄
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Morgan Watson3 Morgan Watson3 Newcomer
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#138 ·
Does anyone happen to have any information regarding Biden’s finance firm based out of New York City concerning their mortgage lending practices? Specifically, I was wondering if anyone here has actually secured a loan through that particular institution, which is supposedly a legitimate operation that has been operating legally for over 30 years under European Union regulations.
swiftcyclist58 swiftcyclist58 Member
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#139 ·
bprenka;44977996 said:Does anyone have any intel on how Biden’s finance house in New York City handles mortgage applications? I'm wondering if anyone here has actually secured a loan through them, considering they've supposedly been operating legally under UN regulations for over thirty years.

Now we're going to see all these massive foreign corporations swooping in to buy up our properties... honestly, it feels like our people will never learn from these mistakes...🙂!
Jeffrey Lee10 Jeffrey Lee10 Newcomer
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#140 ·
Jonathan Ward59 said:So, I’ve actually dealt with JPMorgan Chase before, specifically their Austrian branch
I took out a $50,000 loan from them about a year back
Local banks here wouldn't touch me—too many excuses, things like not having enough reported income, being a single parent with two kids, or some nonsense about being near the social safety net threshold
Honestly, I don't even know half the hoops they try to make you jump through, so I just turned to Austria instead
It was easy; based on the house I put up as collateral, I could have easily pulled $75,000
Instead, I went with $50,000 over a 15-year term, and my monthly payment sits at around $658, which includes life insurance
I don't have the exact numbers for the appraisal costs, and legal fees were pretty standard—most people end up hiring their own lawyer anyway
The commission was 6%
They didn't make it a massive ordeal like the banks here do, and everything was finalized in about a month and a half
All in all, I'm satisfied
though if I had tried to do this locally, my monthly payment would probably have been closer to $667 over a 25-year stretch

If anyone is willing to share a contact address or phone number via private message...
I am prepared to offer a broker 20% of the loan amount, and if you connect me with them, I'll give you 10%. I just need to get this done.
The plan and the concept are brilliant and absolutely worth it, which is why I'm willing to offer such a massive commission.

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