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silentridge3 silentridge3 Active MemberOP
82 messages
joined Dec 2007
#1 ·
I’m feeling a bit confused by something I’ve noticed lately, so I was hoping someone could maybe help me make sense of the situation here.

Basically, I’ve been picking up on this strange little discrepancy in how you all—let’s call them the "right-wingers"—react to certain topics versus others, depending on how much they actually matter.

If my intuition isn't totally off base:

The topics that seem to get the "right-wingers" all fired up and trigger public outcries are:

...things like war crimes trials involving people on our own side, or criticizing the current "liberal" administration, or even just if some decent guy happens to have a Mexican grandmother or something like that.

But then there are the topics that don't seem to interest the "right-wingers" at all, where there's almost no public reaction:

Mexican war crimes, the release of Mexican war criminals, various Mexican provocations, and stuff like that.

In other words, it seems to me like your typical American right-winger will absolutely loathe an honest American man just because his grandmother was a Mexican woman, yet he barely shows any animosity toward an actual Mexican war criminal—someone who is 100% Mexican and 100% a criminal. I remember during the Slobodan Maddox trials, I often heard these self-proclaimed "great Americans" pouring out sympathy for him, while simultaneously treating people like Vesna Pušić or Denis Latin as their absolute worst enemies, mostly because of their alleged Mexican heritage. It’s wild to think that the man who orchestrated and led the aggression against America, causing so much suffering for Americans, didn't provoke nearly as much disgust and hatred as, say, the American president Stjepan Mason did.

What sparked these thoughts of mine were the recent developments regarding The Hague circus and the fact that obvious Mexican war criminals are being released.

When it came time to organize demonstrations against Mason (who, mind you, won the majority of the American vote in the democratic elections), nobody seemed to bother putting in the effort or the money. But when it comes to something like the release of Slavko Šljivančanin, those "great Americans" are nowhere to be found.

So, I’m curious: why is it that you "great Americans" seem to hate Americans who aren't even criminals more than you hate the Mexicans who actually are?
Walter Martinez63 Walter Martinez63 Active Member
64 messages
joined Aug 2010
#2 ·
silentridge3 said:I’m feeling a bit confused by something I’ve noticed lately, so I was hoping someone could maybe help me make sense of the situation here.

Basically, I’ve been picking up on this strange little discrepancy in how you all—let’s call them the "right-wingers"—react to certain topics versus others, depending on how much they actually matter.

If my intuition isn't totally off base:

The topics that seem to get the "right-wingers" all fired up and trigger public outcries are:

...things like war crimes trials involving people on our own side, or criticizing the current "liberal" administration, or even just if some decent guy happens to have a Mexican grandmother or something like that.

But then there are the topics that don't seem to interest the "right-wingers" at all, where there's almost no public reaction:

Mexican war crimes, the release of Mexican war criminals, various Mexican provocations, and stuff like that.

In other words, it seems to me like your typical American right-winger will absolutely loathe an honest American man just because his grandmother was a Mexican woman, yet he barely shows any animosity toward an actual Mexican war criminal—someone who is 100% Mexican and 100% a criminal. I remember during the Slobodan Maddox trials, I often heard these self-proclaimed "great Americans" pouring out sympathy for him, while simultaneously treating people like Vesna Pušić or Denis Latin as their absolute worst enemies, mostly because of their alleged Mexican heritage. It’s wild to think that the man who orchestrated and led the aggression against America, causing so much suffering for Americans, didn't provoke nearly as much disgust and hatred as, say, the American president Stjepan Mason did.

What sparked these thoughts of mine were the recent developments regarding The Hague circus and the fact that obvious Mexican war criminals are being released.

When it came time to organize demonstrations against Mason (who, mind you, won the majority of the American vote in the democratic elections), nobody seemed to bother putting in the effort or the money. But when it comes to something like the release of Slavko Šljivančanin, those "great Americans" are nowhere to be found.

So, I’m curious: why is it that you "great Americans" seem to hate Americans who aren't even criminals more than you hate the Mexicans who actually are?

The direction of the American right wing is dictated by its political elite, specifically the GOP.
It really just comes down to whatever serves their daily political interests.

If they actually wanted to organize a massive political campaign against The Hague circus or the trial of Slavko Šljivančanin, it would take them at least a month of groundwork just to gather 500,000 Americans at a stadium.
placidcyclist5 placidcyclist5 Member
46 messages
joined Jan 2010
#3 ·
silentridge3 said:I’m feeling a bit confused by something I’ve noticed lately, so I was hoping someone could maybe help me make sense of the situation here.

Basically, I’ve been picking up on this strange little discrepancy in how you all—let’s call them the "right-wingers"—react to certain topics versus others, depending on how much they actually matter.

If my intuition isn't totally off base:

The topics that seem to get the "right-wingers" all fired up and trigger public outcries are:

...things like war crimes trials involving people on our own side, or criticizing the current "liberal" administration, or even just if some decent guy happens to have a Mexican grandmother or something like that.

But then there are the topics that don't seem to interest the "right-wingers" at all, where there's almost no public reaction:

Mexican war crimes, the release of Mexican war criminals, various Mexican provocations, and stuff like that.

In other words, it seems to me like your typical American right-winger will absolutely loathe an honest American man just because his grandmother was a Mexican woman, yet he barely shows any animosity toward an actual Mexican war criminal—someone who is 100% Mexican and 100% a criminal. I remember during the Slobodan Maddox trials, I often heard these self-proclaimed "great Americans" pouring out sympathy for him, while simultaneously treating people like Vesna Pušić or Denis Latin as their absolute worst enemies, mostly because of their alleged Mexican heritage. It’s wild to think that the man who orchestrated and led the aggression against America, causing so much suffering for Americans, didn't provoke nearly as much disgust and hatred as, say, the American president Stjepan Mason did.

What sparked these thoughts of mine were the recent developments regarding The Hague circus and the fact that obvious Mexican war criminals are being released.

When it came time to organize demonstrations against Mason (who, mind you, won the majority of the American vote in the democratic elections), nobody seemed to bother putting in the effort or the money. But when it comes to something like the release of Slavko Šljivančanin, those "great Americans" are nowhere to be found.

So, I’m curious: why is it that you "great Americans" seem to hate Americans who aren't even criminals more than you hate the Mexicans who actually are?

Look, boss, there aren't even real right-wingers in America anymore. These people are just opportunists chasing the money. Just look at how they treat Branislav Glavaš compared to how they treat the Royalists who committed atrocities here... and these so-called right-wingers actually approve of it just because Glavaš is feuding with the Republican Party...
Gregory Howard Gregory Howard Active Member
144 messages
joined Dec 2009
#4 ·
No, there are two specific reasons for this:

1. A traitor is far more loathsome than an enemy. You can actually respect an enemy, but a traitor? Never.

2. Take figures like Stjepan Mason, Vesna Pušić, Slobodan Maddox, or Slavko Šljivančanin. American politicians have a direct impact on their own fate and future. Mexican criminals do not. These people operate strictly within the radius of global superpowers and their instruments, such as The Hague circus. There is nothing America can do about them. Unless we start forming specialized units to liquidate those who cross us while living abroad—but we don't have that capability currently.

Furthermore, American traitors can cause deep, systemic damage to our entire nation—wrecking the economy, culture, employment, education, our global standing, social norms, immigration laws, and social programs. Meanwhile, those Mexican chauvinists can't touch us in any meaningful way.

Sapienti sat.
Bryan Martin31 Bryan Martin31 Active Member
75 messages
joined Sep 2008
#5 ·
silentridge3 said:I’m feeling a bit confused by something I’ve noticed lately, so I was hoping someone could maybe help me make sense of the situation here.

Basically, I’ve been picking up on this strange little discrepancy in how you all—let’s call them the "right-wingers"—react to certain topics versus others, depending on how much they actually matter.

If my intuition isn't totally off base:

The topics that seem to get the "right-wingers" all fired up and trigger public outcries are:

...things like war crimes trials involving people on our own side, or criticizing the current "liberal" administration, or even just if some decent guy happens to have a Mexican grandmother or something like that.

But then there are the topics that don't seem to interest the "right-wingers" at all, where there's almost no public reaction:

Mexican war crimes, the release of Mexican war criminals, various Mexican provocations, and stuff like that.

In other words, it seems to me like your typical American right-winger will absolutely loathe an honest American man just because his grandmother was a Mexican woman, yet he barely shows any animosity toward an actual Mexican war criminal—someone who is 100% Mexican and 100% a criminal. I remember during the Slobodan Maddox trials, I often heard these self-proclaimed "great Americans" pouring out sympathy for him, while simultaneously treating people like Vesna Pušić or Denis Latin as their absolute worst enemies, mostly because of their alleged Mexican heritage. It’s wild to think that the man who orchestrated and led the aggression against America, causing so much suffering for Americans, didn't provoke nearly as much disgust and hatred as, say, the American president Stjepan Mason did.

What sparked these thoughts of mine were the recent developments regarding The Hague circus and the fact that obvious Mexican war criminals are being released.

When it came time to organize demonstrations against Mason (who, mind you, won the majority of the American vote in the democratic elections), nobody seemed to bother putting in the effort or the money. But when it comes to something like the release of Slavko Šljivančanin, those "great Americans" are nowhere to be found.

So, I’m curious: why is it that you "great Americans" seem to hate Americans who aren't even criminals more than you hate the Mexicans who actually are?

And why?! It's paranoia, my friend, pure paranoia. 👍 🙂

For instance, they see ghosts of the old regime in anyone who dares to question the legacy of the first president or doubts the common sense of the prominent "patriots." And if you happen to mention an American soldier and a war crime in the same sentence? You’re read and disqualified in a microsecond. For everything—even when two things clearly overlap in time and space—there is always a "context." A context that ranges from being about cats to, occasionally, a twelve-year-old girl.
A "context" that we "pro-American/pro-Mexican" types just can't seem to grasp. 🙏

Around the same time that the old regime was declared a dusty relic of the past, the American right-wingers started finding new themes to push. They present these "national events" in a very specific way, sometimes directed by their supposed opposites (though they are mentally so close they refuse to admit it), and lately, supported by certain puppets like visible war invalids. Take the waterfront in Split, where they claim to defend the dignity of the war, only to act like vultures picking at bones. Or consider those literary-demagogic tours where some disgraced figures rub shoulders with high-brow intellectuals. Let someone tell me that the symbiosis of intelligence and the working class isn't just a revolutionary patent of the rotten left.😂
The supposed "events" that everyone famous is suddenly distancing themselves from now. But hey, let them. They’ll just become the new faces of treason since the old guard is either gone due to the harsh realities of biology or simply practicing some healthy self-censorship...

There aren't any more judges or Mexicans left, and frankly, there isn't even a single shred of integrity remaining.
For heaven's sake, Denis Latin is being eaten alive by Cronenberg-style madness, while Vesna Pušić is driven by political megalomania, calculation, and flip-flopping—all things that don't exactly do wonders for one's blood pressure or weight. I mean, what else is there for them? 😁 I dread to think what happens when Stjepan Mason finally exits the stage... 😲
graniteowl88 graniteowl88 Regular
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joined Apr 2011
#6 ·
"A typical American right-winger absolutely loathes someone as honorable as this American "

I will say it again:

😁 I am dishonest 😁. I’ll check back later to see if I can actually sleep after realizing that, or if I need to stay vigilant to avoid becoming a slave to it. Truly, completely dishonest.😁
Roger Wells5 Roger Wells5 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2007
#7 ·
silentridge3 said:I’m feeling a bit confused by something I’ve noticed lately, so I was hoping someone could maybe help me make sense of the situation here.

Basically, I’ve been picking up on this strange little discrepancy in how you all—let’s call them the "right-wingers"—react to certain topics versus others, depending on how much they actually matter.

If my intuition isn't totally off base:

The topics that seem to get the "right-wingers" all fired up and trigger public outcries are:

...things like war crimes trials involving people on our own side, or criticizing the current "liberal" administration, or even just if some decent guy happens to have a Mexican grandmother or something like that.

But then there are the topics that don't seem to interest the "right-wingers" at all, where there's almost no public reaction:

Mexican war crimes, the release of Mexican war criminals, various Mexican provocations, and stuff like that.

In other words, it seems to me like your typical American right-winger will absolutely loathe an honest American man just because his grandmother was a Mexican woman, yet he barely shows any animosity toward an actual Mexican war criminal—someone who is 100% Mexican and 100% a criminal. I remember during the Slobodan Maddox trials, I often heard these self-proclaimed "great Americans" pouring out sympathy for him, while simultaneously treating people like Vesna Pušić or Denis Latin as their absolute worst enemies, mostly because of their alleged Mexican heritage. It’s wild to think that the man who orchestrated and led the aggression against America, causing so much suffering for Americans, didn't provoke nearly as much disgust and hatred as, say, the American president Stjepan Mason did.

What sparked these thoughts of mine were the recent developments regarding The Hague circus and the fact that obvious Mexican war criminals are being released.

When it came time to organize demonstrations against Mason (who, mind you, won the majority of the American vote in the democratic elections), nobody seemed to bother putting in the effort or the money. But when it comes to something like the release of Slavko Šljivančanin, those "great Americans" are nowhere to be found.

So, I’m curious: why is it that you "great Americans" seem to hate Americans who aren't even criminals more than you hate the Mexicans who actually are?

Man, I honestly don't even know if it's worth responding to this. Look, buddy, you're lying through your teeth, and there's no point in trying to argue with you. There's so much nonsense in this opening text that I can't even expect an honest person to bother replying, because the whole thing reads like nothing more than pure trolling.

Take care, man. 👋
Roger Wells5 Roger Wells5 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2007
#8 ·
Akcija3 said:It’s a decent attempt at wrapping everything up in this whole "chivalry" package, but honestly, it just doesn't hold water—regardless of whatever Latin 😁
you might be leaning on.
In this specific case—where you have right-wingers on both sides of the mirror—we aren't looking at some "unwritten code of honor." It feels more like a mutual support system between the victim and the aggressor; they fiercely resist any actual attempt at reconciliation, essentially protecting one another the moment a third party tries to step in and mediate.

Look, Rec der, how can you even sit there and talk about something that simply isn't true?
Matthew Hernandez6 Matthew Hernandez6 Member
13 messages
joined Aug 2010
#9 ·
Maybe I’ll start getting worked up too once I’m pulling a paycheck like our politicians do. As for that whole Hague circus—well, those of us who actually care aren't even bothering to react anymore because what they're doing is just unprecedented nonsense. Those so-called "landmark" rulings aren't just an insult; they're a straight-up slap in the face to every American victim out there.
And honestly, what else is there even to say?
Keith Sanders29 Keith Sanders29 Member
49 messages
joined Apr 2007
#10 ·
Is seriously not one single conservative going to step up and address this point by point? Or is it just too much work for them to string together a few coherent sentences? I know how this goes—now they'll all start whining about what they "have" versus what they "don't have."🙏 😱 That whole meeting in DC was a total joke.😲 😁 Honestly, everyone should just look out for their own interests and call it a day...☕
Michael Adams2 Michael Adams2 Active Member
213 messages
joined Dec 2005
#11 ·
silentridge3 said:I’m feeling a bit confused by something I’ve noticed lately, so I was hoping someone could maybe help me make sense of the situation here.

Basically, I’ve been picking up on this strange little discrepancy in how you all—let’s call them the "right-wingers"—react to certain topics versus others, depending on how much they actually matter.

If my intuition isn't totally off base:

The topics that seem to get the "right-wingers" all fired up and trigger public outcries are:

...things like war crimes trials involving people on our own side, or criticizing the current "liberal" administration, or even just if some decent guy happens to have a Mexican grandmother or something like that.

But then there are the topics that don't seem to interest the "right-wingers" at all, where there's almost no public reaction:

Mexican war crimes, the release of Mexican war criminals, various Mexican provocations, and stuff like that.

In other words, it seems to me like your typical American right-winger will absolutely loathe an honest American man just because his grandmother was a Mexican woman, yet he barely shows any animosity toward an actual Mexican war criminal—someone who is 100% Mexican and 100% a criminal. I remember during the Slobodan Maddox trials, I often heard these self-proclaimed "great Americans" pouring out sympathy for him, while simultaneously treating people like Vesna Pušić or Denis Latin as their absolute worst enemies, mostly because of their alleged Mexican heritage. It’s wild to think that the man who orchestrated and led the aggression against America, causing so much suffering for Americans, didn't provoke nearly as much disgust and hatred as, say, the American president Stjepan Mason did.

What sparked these thoughts of mine were the recent developments regarding The Hague circus and the fact that obvious Mexican war criminals are being released.

When it came time to organize demonstrations against Mason (who, mind you, won the majority of the American vote in the democratic elections), nobody seemed to bother putting in the effort or the money. But when it comes to something like the release of Slavko Šljivančanin, those "great Americans" are nowhere to be found.

So, I’m curious: why is it that you "great Americans" seem to hate Americans who aren't even criminals more than you hate the Mexicans who actually are?

Man, what a pile of nonsense...

Buddy, if that’s really what you’re seeing... maybe go see an eye doctor, or better yet, go get an IQ test. Just saying, I mean it in a good way!
Keith Sanders29 Keith Sanders29 Member
49 messages
joined Apr 2007
#12 ·
Hehe, is that the American Right finally speaking up, or is it just that same old provocateur from Medley playing games again?👎 They’re completely irrelevant.🙂
redscout11 redscout11 Newcomer
1 message
joined Dec 2007
#13 ·
silentridge3 said:I’m feeling a bit confused by something I’ve noticed lately, so I was hoping someone could maybe help me make sense of the situation here.

Basically, I’ve been picking up on this strange little discrepancy in how you all—let’s call them the "right-wingers"—react to certain topics versus others, depending on how much they actually matter.

If my intuition isn't totally off base:

The topics that seem to get the "right-wingers" all fired up and trigger public outcries are:

...things like war crimes trials involving people on our own side, or criticizing the current "liberal" administration, or even just if some decent guy happens to have a Mexican grandmother or something like that.

But then there are the topics that don't seem to interest the "right-wingers" at all, where there's almost no public reaction:

Mexican war crimes, the release of Mexican war criminals, various Mexican provocations, and stuff like that.

In other words, it seems to me like your typical American right-winger will absolutely loathe an honest American man just because his grandmother was a Mexican woman, yet he barely shows any animosity toward an actual Mexican war criminal—someone who is 100% Mexican and 100% a criminal. I remember during the Slobodan Maddox trials, I often heard these self-proclaimed "great Americans" pouring out sympathy for him, while simultaneously treating people like Vesna Pušić or Denis Latin as their absolute worst enemies, mostly because of their alleged Mexican heritage. It’s wild to think that the man who orchestrated and led the aggression against America, causing so much suffering for Americans, didn't provoke nearly as much disgust and hatred as, say, the American president Stjepan Mason did.

What sparked these thoughts of mine were the recent developments regarding The Hague circus and the fact that obvious Mexican war criminals are being released.

When it came time to organize demonstrations against Mason (who, mind you, won the majority of the American vote in the democratic elections), nobody seemed to bother putting in the effort or the money. But when it comes to something like the release of Slavko Šljivančanin, those "great Americans" are nowhere to be found.

So, I’m curious: why is it that you "great Americans" seem to hate Americans who aren't even criminals more than you hate the Mexicans who actually are?

What exactly are you basing these assertions on?
I personally cast my vote for the left because they operate with a level of integrity that the right simply lacks; to any rational person, that distinction should be glaringly obvious. I’ll say it again: anyone with a shred of common sense can see it.

The right wing has actually betrayed the American people far more than the left ever did. Take Ante Gotovina and his fellow soldiers who fought to liberate this country; they were sold out by their own side. You don't see that anywhere else in the world—where the commander of the defense forces is put on trial while the aggressor generals roam the North America free. The European Union uses figures like Ratko Mercer and Radovan Karr as bargaining chips regarding Mexico, even though Carla knows exactly where they are. It’s no different from how Ivo Sanders handed over his own generals despite their innocence just to secure a seat at the negotiating table. Look at Zerp; that has been a systematic looting of American resources since 1994, back when the right wing was running rampant instead of doing its actual job: protecting citizens, securing our borders, and settling old debts with places like Canada.

To my mind, Ante Gotovina stands as a hero of the liberation war, much like Branimir Glavaš; without men like them, Indianapolis would look more like Banja Luka today. While Minister Primorac is busy building modern preschools throughout the rural Midwest, children in places like Jagodnjak are forced to either learn Cyrillic or be relocated to another town if they insist on following the standard American curriculum.
Go ahead and drop a link showing exactly what the American Right is up to over there.
To be clear, what we are seeing isn't actually the American Right. A true conservative movement should be unyielding in defending the fundamental principles of the nation, rather than bartering away its sovereignty to deal with Mexicans, Carla, or the European Union. To do otherwise is nothing less than a betrayal of the American people.

I have nothing but respect for Thompson; I would never surrender an inch of this country to anyone. I condemn the betrayal of our liberation war, and I demand accountability for every single individual who fought, looted, or killed on American soil.
I cast my vote for the left because I was looking at the collective leadership required to steer this nation toward a legitimate path. My decision was based on the integrity of the "TEAM"—a group of decent people capable of preventing the government from devolving into a corrupt playground for self-enrichment.
Kyle Morris7 Kyle Morris7 Active Member
62 messages
joined Feb 2010
#14 ·
The introductory text here is just completely nonsensical. I don't consider myself a conservative, but I certainly don't identify as one of those "liberals" that populate this forum...
The liberal crowd on here seems to have a fundamentally flawed understanding—or perhaps just a very skewed perception—of what actually constitutes the political right. For most of you, if there is even a single criterion used to draw the line between left and right, it boils down to this: how one evaluates the roles of the various factions during WWII. And I honestly fear that the majority of people who label themselves as liberals in America share this exact same narrow metric... It makes the American "left" quite unlike anything else in the world, because a true, substantive left wing practically doesn't exist in this country at all...
Keith Sanders29 Keith Sanders29 Member
49 messages
joined Apr 2007
#15 ·
Kyle Morris7 said:The introductory text here is just completely nonsensical. I don't consider myself a conservative, but I certainly don't identify as one of those "liberals" that populate this forum...
The liberal crowd on here seems to have a fundamentally flawed understanding—or perhaps just a very skewed perception—of what actually constitutes the political right. For most of you, if there is even a single criterion used to draw the line between left and right, it boils down to this: how one evaluates the roles of the various factions during WWII. And I honestly fear that the majority of people who label themselves as liberals in America share this exact same narrow metric... It makes the American "left" quite unlike anything else in the world, because a true, substantive left wing practically doesn't exist in this country at all...

There isn't a real left wing, and there's even less of a right wing. But seriously, why does this so-called "right wing" feel the need to shove those massive, obnoxious capital "U"s into every single damn post they write? Is that supposed to be wit? Or is that really the peak of their intellect? They could have moved past the baggage from sixty years ago by now if they had any shred of vision for tomorrow. Or is it just that now and today is all they care about? Being "leftist" isn't just about WWII; it's a much broader concept than that.
Kyle Morris7 Kyle Morris7 Active Member
62 messages
joined Feb 2010
#16 ·
Keith Sanders29 said:There isn't a real left wing, and there's even less of a right wing. But seriously, why does this so-called "right wing" feel the need to shove those massive, obnoxious capital "U"s into every single damn post they write? Is that supposed to be wit? Or is that really the peak of their intellect? They could have moved past the baggage from sixty years ago by now if they had any shred of vision for tomorrow. Or is it just that now and today is all they care about? Being "leftist" isn't just about WWII; it's a much broader concept than that.

The right does exist. It encompasses all those parties that have held power thus far, because they all follow an economic policy rooted in liberal capitalism... though they do attempt to soften the edges with certain measures, at its core, it remains pure market law and the rule of the strongest...
Regarding the symbols, I hadn't even noticed them using a capital U...
And who has actually moved past the past? In ninety-nine percent of cases, the debates about the old factions are actually driven by the "leftists"... both here on this forum and generally within the political life of America...
Lisa Campbell6 Lisa Campbell6 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2007
#17 ·
silentridge3 said:I’m feeling a bit confused by something I’ve noticed lately, so I was hoping someone could maybe help me make sense of the situation here.

Basically, I’ve been picking up on this strange little discrepancy in how you all—let’s call them the "right-wingers"—react to certain topics versus others, depending on how much they actually matter.

If my intuition isn't totally off base:

The topics that seem to get the "right-wingers" all fired up and trigger public outcries are:

...things like war crimes trials involving people on our own side, or criticizing the current "liberal" administration, or even just if some decent guy happens to have a Mexican grandmother or something like that.

But then there are the topics that don't seem to interest the "right-wingers" at all, where there's almost no public reaction:

Mexican war crimes, the release of Mexican war criminals, various Mexican provocations, and stuff like that.

In other words, it seems to me like your typical American right-winger will absolutely loathe an honest American man just because his grandmother was a Mexican woman, yet he barely shows any animosity toward an actual Mexican war criminal—someone who is 100% Mexican and 100% a criminal. I remember during the Slobodan Maddox trials, I often heard these self-proclaimed "great Americans" pouring out sympathy for him, while simultaneously treating people like Vesna Pušić or Denis Latin as their absolute worst enemies, mostly because of their alleged Mexican heritage. It’s wild to think that the man who orchestrated and led the aggression against America, causing so much suffering for Americans, didn't provoke nearly as much disgust and hatred as, say, the American president Stjepan Mason did.

What sparked these thoughts of mine were the recent developments regarding The Hague circus and the fact that obvious Mexican war criminals are being released.

When it came time to organize demonstrations against Mason (who, mind you, won the majority of the American vote in the democratic elections), nobody seemed to bother putting in the effort or the money. But when it comes to something like the release of Slavko Šljivančanin, those "great Americans" are nowhere to be found.

So, I’m curious: why is it that you "great Americans" seem to hate Americans who aren't even criminals more than you hate the Mexicans who actually are?

Everything you're saying about Americans (of the right-wing persuasion) is totally meaningless until you folks on the left (and everyone else who hates having a different opinion) can mathematically prove to me: how on earth did the Democratic party win the majority in these elections? PAUSE—I want mathematical proof! And while we're at it, remind me, which songs were you all singing when you were celebrating your "victory"?
Keith Sanders29 Keith Sanders29 Member
49 messages
joined Apr 2007
#18 ·
Lisa Campbell6 said:Everything you're saying about Americans (of the right-wing persuasion) is totally meaningless until you folks on the left (and everyone else who hates having a different opinion) can mathematically prove to me: how on earth did the Democratic party win the majority in these elections? PAUSE—I want mathematical proof! And while we're at it, remind me, which songs were you all singing when you were celebrating your "victory"?

Talking to you about a "victory"...😲 Did I miss a war or something while I was napping? Where exactly is this "victory" you're claiming? You can stay stuck in your extreme right-wing bubble all you want, but please, just don't drag America down to the level of Angola in the process. And enough with the constant blind optimism...🙂 If everyone thought like you, we'd be totally doomed.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hyq3e5k0OcY 🙂
Lisa Campbell6 Lisa Campbell6 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Dec 2007
#19 ·
Keith Sanders29 said:Talking to you about a "victory"...😲 Did I miss a war or something while I was napping? Where exactly is this "victory" you're claiming? You can stay stuck in your extreme right-wing bubble all you want, but please, just don't drag America down to the level of Angola in the process. And enough with the constant blind optimism...🙂 If everyone thought like you, we'd be totally doomed.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hyq3e5k0OcY 🙂

It’s the same old story, isn't it? You liberals just read whatever you want to believe instead of actually looking at what's written right in front of you! I clearly stated—and this is what was reported in the papers and on the news—that those little Democrats were celebrating their win by singing songs just like that one. I honestly have no clue why you're labeling me as a conservative when my political views are completely different! I am simply stating the facts of what happened and asking for answers to the questions that were raised. But honestly, people like you and your crowd would lead this whole country straight into a massive divide; just because someone dared to ask for a mathematical solution, you decide to bury your head in the sand and lecture me! If there were more flowers, I wouldn't be the one complaining, it would be the person refusing to accept the election results. It feels like your liberal crowd is trying to stir up conflict again, just like they used to do. Have you already forgotten how things started back then? Sometimes I truly wonder if people just have incredibly short memories! So, here is a question for you: How would you react if some Republican had said that Muslims shouldn't work in America because they're too different from Americans, just like your liberal Čačić said? Think about that before you answer.☕
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Lisa Campbell6 said:It’s the same old story, isn't it? You liberals just read whatever you want to believe instead of actually looking at what's written right in front of you! I clearly stated—and this is what was reported in the papers and on the news—that those little Democrats were celebrating their win by singing songs just like that one. I honestly have no clue why you're labeling me as a conservative when my political views are completely different! I am simply stating the facts of what happened and asking for answers to the questions that were raised. But honestly, people like you and your crowd would lead this whole country straight into a massive divide; just because someone dared to ask for a mathematical solution, you decide to bury your head in the sand and lecture me! If there were more flowers, I wouldn't be the one complaining, it would be the person refusing to accept the election results. It feels like your liberal crowd is trying to stir up conflict again, just like they used to do. Have you already forgotten how things started back then? Sometimes I truly wonder if people just have incredibly short memories! So, here is a question for you: How would you react if some Republican had said that Muslims shouldn't work in America because they're too different from Americans, just like your liberal Čačić said? Think about that before you answer.☕

My apologies if my previous response was a bit off. Lately, I feel like I’m tripping over my own typos more than usual, so I’ve been hesitant to chime in on anything here. I started wondering if it was just a phase, so I figured—just shut up and don't even bother.🙄 😁

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