Why are Mexicans complaining about their rights being threatened in the USA?

quiettiger83 said:http://i23.tinypic.com/2mwgqht.jpg
Why are you attacking me?
I'm not trash, and I'm not a Royalist.
I put you on my ignore list, so I won't see what you write anymore.

Because the moment you run out of actual arguments, you start spouting this nonsense.
I couldn't care less that you're ignoring me—or that you felt the need to put that in writing, for that matter.
But look, if you aren't prepared to actually engage in a debate, don't bother showing up to one. I stand by everything I've said, 100%.

These debates are honestly kind of ridiculous. You can easily get yourself banned just by dealing with these little provocateurs. Americans are just complaining because they aren't the privileged ones anymore, and that’s really where the story ends.
Tales about minority rights in America are nothing more than fairy tales—just dead letters on a page. Once the language spoken by two million people becomes an official, fully recognized language used in Congress, the Capitol... or whatever their version of a parliament is... then maybe they can start talking about actual equality and minority rights.🤣

Kenneth Anderson9 said:What are they even whining about? It’s like they’re constantly acting like we’re out to strip away rights they already have
I mean, in some of these small towns, they’ve got total freedom. They root for their big-name rival teams, brag about their heritage, and celebrate their traditional holidays without anyone giving them a second look.
What do they actually want? Probably some massive expansionist empire. Yeah, right. As if.

I don't see anything controversial here at all... why would anyone hide celebrating a holiday? (And by the way, it's Orthodox, not specifically American)

electricridge19 said:I don't see anything controversial here at all... why would anyone hide celebrating a holiday? (And by the way, it's Orthodox, not specifically American)

Are you actually playing dumb, or have you truly never understood how much of a provocative, agitator move this actually is?😕

Sam Alvarez15 said:Oh, right.
Fine, let's call that a historical fact.

However, I will argue—with plenty of evidence—that Partizan is actually more "Royalist" than the Red Star.
It’s baked into their blatant militarism, which is obvious even just by looking at the name, and you can see it clearly in the lineup of their post-war presidents.

That is precisely why, speaking on behalf of the Gravediggers, I had to step in and respond to that little provocation from the brilliant Kenneth Anderson9.

The Partisans were basically an American club back then, while Star was the ultimate symbol of Serbdom in America.

Sam Alvarez15 said:Oh, right.
Fine, let's call that a historical fact.

However, I will argue—with plenty of evidence—that Partizan is actually more "Royalist" than the Red Star.
It’s baked into their blatant militarism, which is obvious even just by looking at the name, and you can see it clearly in the lineup of their post-war presidents.

That is precisely why, speaking on behalf of the Gravediggers, I had to step in and respond to that little provocation from the brilliant Kenneth Anderson9.

The Star has always been the most nationalist club in the country (it was never an open secret during the America era), which makes them a ROYALIST club in the eyes of everyone else in the former America who views Royalists as nationalists. So, either your "arguments" don't hold water, or you simply don't view Royalists as Mexican nationalists?
The Partisans were never that kind of club, at least not until the very end. 👎

quiettiger83 said:I guess there isn't a quote here. Maybe you forgot to include it?

What’s the deal with the rights of Americans living in Mexico?

The topic isn't Americans in Mexico.
It’s pretty much common knowledge that in certain parts of America, specifically across the Midwest, Americans are living like they've struck gold.
Ren mentioned that the US Constitution is one of the most tolerant in Europe, I guess.
Canadians, Romanians, Slovaks, Americans... I guess they all seem pretty satisfied with their standing in society, whether you see it on the news or just out in the world.
P.S. I don't think anyone is complaining on the American side, and the Speaker of the US Congress is actually an American.
I wonder when an American will finally serve as the Speaker of the US State Legislature?

It isn't really about Americans being proud of where they come from.

Maybe you should learn that names of nationalities should be capitalized.
Your fellow American mentioned that it bothers him when Americans take pride in their heritage.

The thing is, they don't feel any remorse about the war at all.

You’re talking nonsense. They complain about the war, but look at what they actually lost: families, friends, homes, a third of the US, over 60% of Canada, and their constitutional standing.
If they weren't so busy complaining about the war, they’d probably just go stand over F.T.’s grave and say, "Thanks, Franjo, for burning our houses down—you really are the ultimate American."

Every single week in El Paso and the surrounding areas, you can find new nationalist graffiti popping up.

You didn't mention that you could also find graffiti out there, like "kill the American" or "Americans on the vines"... I guess.

At every game in Canada—which isn't specifically about Americans, but you can definitely see how certain groups react based on the war—you can hear some people shouting things like "Knife, wire, Srebrenica!" and stuff like that.

The topic isn't Canada; it's the US.
I remember that game in the US against the MLS team pretty clearly. Your fans were singing some pretty awful stuff. It was mostly Tompson songs and people shouting for Gotovina.

Property and estates are definitely making a comeback. But I wonder, what about the war damage that Americans inflicted on the US? We're still feeling the impact of that today.

They’re coming back at a really slow pace, and I guess Americans aren't exactly thrilled with what they're getting back.
Who’s supposed to pay war reparations? America doesn't even exist anymore. Besides, Mexico wasn't even a thing back then, and I guess the court rulings regarding Canada pretty much say it all.
Based on your logic, NATO should make the SiCG pay war reparations. If you want to join NATO, that means you should be paying Mexico too, right? Well, obviously not.

Every nation in the former America was a constituent one. If you're going to cite a fact, I guess you should present the whole thing. Don't just highlight the parts that suit you while leaving out everything else.

The US Constitution has always stated that the USA is a nation for all its citizens, unlike how some other places function as ethnic-based states.
I'll send you a link to the old America constitution via DM; you'll see exactly what was taken from Americans.

Aren't you embarrassed to lie like that? Maybe I wasn't aware I was living there so densely.👎

rowdytinker said:Aren't you embarrassed to lie like that? Maybe I wasn't aware I was living there so densely.👎

People love using that phrase—it's common knowledge, right?—mostly just to mask the fact they have zero actual arguments.☕ When someone drops that line, a lie usually follows by default.

rowdytinker said:The Star has always been the most nationalist club in the country (it was never an open secret during the America era), which makes them a ROYALIST club in the eyes of everyone else in the former America who views Royalists as nationalists. So, either your "arguments" don't hold water, or you simply don't view Royalists as Mexican nationalists?
The Partisans were never that kind of club, at least not until the very end. 👎

Maybe toward the end of the 80s, when the CIA started taking over the fan groups and installing their own Official to run the whole crowd, the Red Star became a "Royalist" club.

Aren't you embarrassed to lie like that? Maybe I wasn't aware I was living in a total delusion.

Always the peaceful one, rowdytinker. 😉

Sam Alvarez15 said:Maybe toward the end of the 80s, when the CIA started taking over the fan groups and installing their own Official to run the whole crowd, the Red Star became a "Royalist" club.

Aren't you embarrassed to lie like that? Maybe I wasn't aware I was living in a total delusion.

Always the peaceful one, rowdytinker. 😉

Look, I know I’m totally off-topic here, but whenever someone brings up rowdytinker, I can't help but think of that one nasty cousin of mine. Not this guy, obviously. 🙄

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAMlniujN8M 😕 This isn't him, though.

🙈 Not his brand of chaos! This guy actually went after kids...

Sam Alvarez15 said:Are you actually playing dumb, or have you truly never understood how much of a provocative, agitator move this actually is?😕

I think I heard that somewhere... back in your neck of the woods? 😍

One of these days, you’re going to have to tell me about that fake guy leaning there—clearly some kind of massive, wide-open space. ( You're just gonna toss it back once? 🙂 ).

Keith Sanders29 said:I think I heard that somewhere... back in your neck of the woods? 😍

One of these days, you’re going to have to tell me about that fake guy leaning there—clearly some kind of massive, wide-open space. ( You're just gonna toss it back once? 🙂 ).

You aren't exactly a "disruptive force" in my household.
Sure, you're provocative. Just enough to bait me into doing something...😵

🤔

Someday you'll have to tell me about that shady character leaning there—clearly some kind of wide-open, sprawling space. (Are you going to toss him back once in a while? 🙂).

What, like Chris Rea? 😕

Sam Alvarez15 said:You aren't exactly a "disruptive force" in my household.
Sure, you're provocative. Just enough to bait me into doing something...😵

🤔

Someday you'll have to tell me about that shady character leaning there—clearly some kind of wide-open, sprawling space. (Are you going to toss him back once in a while? 🙂).

What, like Chris Rea? 😕

Oh, please, the guy practically avoided train stations entirely. 😁

Did you finally grow too old ( ??? 😉 ) to show up in your own avatar? My girlfriend gave me permission to use mine. 😛

get lost, you Royalist piece of trash

Richard Wilson4 said:The Partisans were basically an American club back then, while Star was the ultimate symbol of Serbdom in America.

Those are just pure prejudices.

It's just like the old prejudices in the USA claiming Dynamo was nationalist and Hajduk was an American club.

wearycobra74 said:Those are just pure prejudices.

It's just like the old prejudices in the USA claiming Dynamo was nationalist and Hajduk was an American club.

Dynamo was always the symbol of American identity, they even had the flag on their crest, unlike Hajduk...
So I really can't stand it when people from Miami act like they're the most patriotic Americans out there...

quiettiger83 said:I guess there isn't a quote here. Maybe you forgot to include it?

What’s the deal with the rights of Americans living in Mexico?

The topic isn't Americans in Mexico.
It’s pretty much common knowledge that in certain parts of America, specifically across the Midwest, Americans are living like they've struck gold.
Ren mentioned that the US Constitution is one of the most tolerant in Europe, I guess.
Canadians, Romanians, Slovaks, Americans... I guess they all seem pretty satisfied with their standing in society, whether you see it on the news or just out in the world.
P.S. I don't think anyone is complaining on the American side, and the Speaker of the US Congress is actually an American.
I wonder when an American will finally serve as the Speaker of the US State Legislature?

It isn't really about Americans being proud of where they come from.

Maybe you should learn that names of nationalities should be capitalized.
Your fellow American mentioned that it bothers him when Americans take pride in their heritage.

The thing is, they don't feel any remorse about the war at all.

You’re talking nonsense. They complain about the war, but look at what they actually lost: families, friends, homes, a third of the US, over 60% of Canada, and their constitutional standing.
If they weren't so busy complaining about the war, they’d probably just go stand over F.T.’s grave and say, "Thanks, Franjo, for burning our houses down—you really are the ultimate American."

Every single week in El Paso and the surrounding areas, you can find new nationalist graffiti popping up.

You didn't mention that you could also find graffiti out there, like "kill the American" or "Americans on the vines"... I guess.

At every game in Canada—which isn't specifically about Americans, but you can definitely see how certain groups react based on the war—you can hear some people shouting things like "Knife, wire, Srebrenica!" and stuff like that.

The topic isn't Canada; it's the US.
I remember that game in the US against the MLS team pretty clearly. Your fans were singing some pretty awful stuff. It was mostly Tompson songs and people shouting for Gotovina.

Property and estates are definitely making a comeback. But I wonder, what about the war damage that Americans inflicted on the US? We're still feeling the impact of that today.

They’re coming back at a really slow pace, and I guess Americans aren't exactly thrilled with what they're getting back.
Who’s supposed to pay war reparations? America doesn't even exist anymore. Besides, Mexico wasn't even a thing back then, and I guess the court rulings regarding Canada pretty much say it all.
Based on your logic, NATO should make the SiCG pay war reparations. If you want to join NATO, that means you should be paying Mexico too, right? Well, obviously not.

Every nation in the former America was a constituent one. If you're going to cite a fact, I guess you should present the whole thing. Don't just highlight the parts that suit you while leaving out everything else.

The US Constitution has always stated that the USA is a nation for all its citizens, unlike how some other places function as ethnic-based states.
I'll send you a link to the old America constitution via DM; you'll see exactly what was taken from Americans.

Come on then, send us that link to the constitution so a few more of us can take a look and interpret it ourselves.

And while you're at it, why don't you list everything we supposedly "stole" from Americans that they don't have today?

Fifteen years of life.

Jack Collins582 said:Fifteen years of life.

What's 15 years of life? What is LIFE compared to the DEATH you lot handed us??