Spiritual Awakening / Insights / Wisdom / Enlightenment

Let’s skip the endless debate over who’s right or wrong. Just lay out what you’ve learned. Put your insights into words, no matter how they come out. I promise, those of us who have been through it will get exactly what you mean.

1. The realization that nobody actually owns anything—not even their own body. It means we either possess everything or absolutely nothing at all.

Richard Walker79 said:Let’s skip the endless debate over who’s right or wrong. Just lay out what you’ve learned. Put your insights into words, no matter how they come out. I promise, those of us who have been through it will get exactly what you mean.

1. The realization that nobody actually owns anything—not even their own body. It means we either possess everything or absolutely nothing at all.

We have zero! Absolutely nothing!

2. And realizing that this truth? That's the good news. Anyone who can even catch a glimpse of that is basically one step closer to infinity.

Some moderately successful attempts at putting my thoughts into words. 🙂

chronologically 😬

1. that I can basically steer my own mental habits wherever I want—and do whatever I please with them
2. that no amount of human knowledge actually provides true insight
3. that I have absolutely no clue who or what I really am 🤷
4. anything at all that might offer a fresh definition of my being is 🙂
5. maybe insight only passes through a quiet mind

Richard Walker79 said:Let’s skip the endless debate over who’s right or wrong. Just lay out what you’ve learned. Put your insights into words, no matter how they come out. I promise, those of us who have been through it will get exactly what you mean.

1. The realization that nobody actually owns anything—not even their own body. It means we either possess everything or absolutely nothing at all.

Duckworth: There's plenty of that stuff buried in the old deleted school threads😁
And hidden in a few other topics, lost in the sea of chat😬😁

Richard Walker79 said:Let’s skip the endless debate over who’s right or wrong. Just lay out what you’ve learned. Put your insights into words, no matter how they come out. I promise, those of us who have been through it will get exactly what you mean.

1. The realization that nobody actually owns anything—not even their own body. It means we either possess everything or absolutely nothing at all.

I have this feeling that everything I ever "knew," I've always known. It just took finally "becoming aware" of those truths and stripping away the "social-religious" layers stuck in my head.😁

And I don't just mean Christianity—I mean everything: Buddhism, modern spirituality, Yogi stuff, etc. All these disciplines demand constant work to reach some goal...

Then one day, I stumbled upon a book called "I Am" from some "association" run by a woman named Germain...
It was something similar to Ramana Maharshi's "Who Am I?" but written in Western language and wasn't quite as "pure." But before that:

In the relatively "clean" books regarding "astral projection," they used to point to different levels of "consciousness": physical, astral, mental, and then spiritual as the peak...
Naturally, they claimed the spiritual level was the highest state anyone could reach.
Books about Yogi said similar things, and those local "spiritual schools" preached about the death of the ego...
Some talked about "bridges" and whatnot...
One group would say one thing was true while another said it was false—if you followed one path, you were supposedly doomed to fail. That’s how they taught each other.
Recalling all this RIGHT NOW: averaging out all that nauseating mental garbage makes me feel an indescribable sense of disgust and dread.
That trash was slowly swept away through a long process of communicating with "standardized knowledge" (John, Zen, Maharshi, etc.), though I have to admit I haven't actually finished reading a single book on the subject in my life. It was more of an "internal dialogue"—an mental overhaul, a cleaning process... sometimes it was incredibly hard, right on the edge of depression and such...
Basically, it was just uncovering what had been known deep down inside all along.

What exactly qualifies as "uniform knowledge"?

driftingraven122 said:What exactly qualifies as "uniform knowledge"?

Just a made-up term ☕ 😛

Or whatever you call information that isn't actually information 😁

steeleagle13 said:Just a made-up term ☕ 😛

Or whatever you call information that isn't actually information 😁

And hey, don't forget—give 'em a uniform and they'll probably show up with a baton too
😁.

Quincy:

Just a quick interruption here: honestly, wading through all this mental garbage is making me feel absolutely revolted. It’s such a bad feeling.

I know this feeling well. Interestingly enough, the first word that pops into my head—and the one I always use—is just: trash.

- Neither the traveler nor the destination truly exists
- The wind blowing and the branches swaying are simply one single process
- Clinging to change is frustrating. Letting go is what sets you free.
- No matter the concept, it is flawed; therefore, kill your "Future." 😉

nothing ever truly arrives, and nothing ever really leaves
what’s coming hasn't actually happened yet
and what's gone isn't even truly gone
whatever is on its way and whatever is fading out
it all just flows in and flows right back out
it feels like there's just no end to this cycle...

man, oh God.... 😁

- Time isn't actually a thing; it's just a concept we humans invented to make sense of how everything—including our own physical selves—eventually fades away.

- Your ego serves as the bridge between your true self and the material world, which is why it’s so terrified of death; it dies right along with your body. It’s this very ego that fuels our fear of passing on and acts as a heavy anchor, preventing us from ever truly reaching higher planes of consciousness or deeper dimensions... most people just get too wrapped up in their own egos, and that's where the fear of death begins.

- You can't really split Quincy into "good" and "evil," because Quincy exists far beyond those simple labels.

ambereagle642 said:nothing ever truly arrives, and nothing ever really leaves
what’s coming hasn't actually happened yet
and what's gone isn't even truly gone
whatever is on its way and whatever is fading out
it all just flows in and flows right back out
it feels like there's just no end to this cycle...

man, oh God.... 😁

But look, this whole "Anticoncept" idea is just more garbage 😁
With this Anticoncept stuff in those little mantras of yours, you can end up being so "enlightened" that your brain turns into a parrot—just repeating denials for everything you think 😁
So yeah, it's all just bullshit 😁

Overthinking is bullshit too... especially when feelings are pure and don't require all that mental gymnastics

steeleagle13 said:But look, this whole "Anticoncept" idea is just more garbage 😁
With this Anticoncept stuff in those little mantras of yours, you can end up being so "enlightened" that your brain turns into a parrot—just repeating denials for everything you think 😁
So yeah, it's all just bullshit 😁

Overthinking is bullshit too... especially when feelings are pure and don't require all that mental gymnastics

hehehehe 😁

steeleagle13 said:But look, this whole "Anticoncept" idea is just more garbage 😁
With this Anticoncept stuff in those little mantras of yours, you can end up being so "enlightened" that your brain turns into a parrot—just repeating denials for everything you think 😁
So yeah, it's all just bullshit 😁

Overthinking is bullshit too... especially when feelings are pure and don't require all that mental gymnastics

But whatever, I'm not even going to bother wasting my breath on that little comment of yours;

Concepts, anticoncepts, the mind... most of this stuff is just part of that "everything comes and goes, and nothing really stays or leaves" cycle!

The point isn't about negation, because denying anything is what actually gives things—like the ego, for example—their fake sense of life and existence in the first place

I'd say the system-existence, or whatever that implies, is total bullshit... which shouldn't mean there's some other kind of existence outside the system or anything like that! 🙄 😁 Basically, a person is just a complete joke as long as they're trying too hard to be someone, haha... 😁

I’ve been reading through this whole thread, chewed on it for a bit, and honestly? I haven't really landed anywhere. Or maybe I have, and I just don't want to admit it.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place—that's the bottom line.

Thanks, boys. God bless.

PS. Who’s actually doing the thanking and the blessing if there isn't even anyone there to receive it... or something like that. 😢

Michael Moore3 said:- Time isn't actually a thing; it's just a concept we humans invented to make sense of how everything—including our own physical selves—eventually fades away.

- Your ego serves as the bridge between your true self and the material world, which is why it’s so terrified of death; it dies right along with your body. It’s this very ego that fuels our fear of passing on and acts as a heavy anchor, preventing us from ever truly reaching higher planes of consciousness or deeper dimensions... most people just get too wrapped up in their own egos, and that's where the fear of death begins.

- You can't really split Quincy into "good" and "evil," because Quincy exists far beyond those simple labels.

I don't find myself afraid of death itself, though I must admit I have some trepidation regarding the actual process of dying—the pain and the manner in which it happens... if you follow my meaning.

Richard Walker79 said:Let’s skip the endless debate over who’s right or wrong. Just lay out what you’ve learned. Put your insights into words, no matter how they come out. I promise, those of us who have been through it will get exactly what you mean.

1. The realization that nobody actually owns anything—not even their own body. It means we either possess everything or absolutely nothing at all.

There was this father with three sons.
And he tells them a whole bunch of stuff.

lol

2. We are ONE: God. Our bodies and our personalities are nothing more than roles we play in a grand production. The very second we realize we are just acting—that this isn't our true essence—is when that moment of enlightenment and awakening finally hits.
Because so many people remain unaware of their TRUE NATURE, they end up identifying entirely with their role, forgetting that every role eventually reaches its inevitable end. As for me? I was never born, I was never created, I don't suffer pain, nor do I feel joy. I am simply PURE SPRING WATER—undisturbed, a mirror reflecting everything around me, yet absolutely nothing can touch me.