Dealing with homosexuality in the family: How to handle it?

Ryan Wood98 said:Yes, that’s actually what some women from Lori mentioned during a seminar organized by a university counseling center. I suppose some clients might accept something just because a psychologist tells them so, but those numbers seem too small to really influence an entire population. In my opinion, television is probably a more effective medium for shifting public perception than psychologists are.

Well... if you are working in therapy or studying parapsychological phenomena, maybe. But if you were into bodybuilding or full-contact combat sports... perhaps you might actually manage to escape. 🤷

It gets even more pathetic when you hear how they told my favorite professor she was wrong after she explained how things actually work... and then tried to gaslight her into thinking this approach is "effective." It's sad...

Listen... if you're messing with therapy and pseudo-psychology, fine. But if you're into bodybuilding or full-contact fighting... maybe you'd actually stand a chance. 🤷

😂🤣
but both groups pass out after getting hit in the head, so... 🙂

Betty Allen15 said:Look, I’ve got some years on me now, though mentally? Not so much. I’ll be the first to admit I recognize people are different, and honestly, I'm against persecuting anyone just for being themselves.
If my kid turned out to be gay, it would be a massive adjustment for me, I won't lie—but at the end of the day, I’d love them just the same.

But I have to ask—and this is directed mostly at the gay community, since they’re the ones living it: Why is it that during Pride parades, participants feel the need to dress so provocatively and act in total opposition to any sense of public decency?
I mean, seriously. You see these images of men half-naked, wearing enough makeup to rival a Vegas showgirl, using all sorts of sex toys, and making out—well, let's call it "aggressive smooching"—in ways that frankly just turn people off. It’s never going to help them win over the neighbors if they behave like that.
I'll be blunt: seeing those parades makes my skin crawl, and I think any straight couple acting that way would get the exact same reaction from the public.
Wouldn't it be more effective—more "normal," I guess—to fight for rights with a bit of dignity? Just show the world that love is love through simple gestures, like holding hands, instead of putting on this perverse little show for everyone else?
And then, predictably, you get into those heated debates about whether people like that should even be allowed to adopt children.

The community really needs to police its own approach to activism. If they don't start demanding respect through more dignified means, they’re always going to find themselves surrounded by people who just want nothing to do with them.

You are absolutely right, and I truly appreciate how you've accepted them while still offering these critiques.
The reality is clear: homosexuals are essentially trapped in America, and they want to liberate themselves by presenting their viewpoints publicly, hoping to desensitize everyone's eyes to these so-called "disgusting" things so they become normal to the observer.
But is that right? Personally, why should I force my eyes to get used to things I don't wish to see? Honestly, I don't touch them, and I don't hate them—there are plenty of them in society, and believe me, I've grown accustomed to everything—but shouting about your sexuality in the streets and displaying the worst, most animalistic side of homosexuality instead of its most beautiful side—showing that love isn't just a bond between a man and a woman, but a bond between one person and another—is another matter entirely.
And listen, liberating the oppressed requires some actual brainpower. ☕
I'm not saying I support them more than heterosexuals, but some of these guys are really overstepping.
(And the girls, too)

Gary Patel said:Look, I'm gay, but honestly? I’m not a fan of the parades—I think they just end up fueling more prejudice against us. It makes people recoil even more than they already do. Let's be real: walking down a street in most of America, holding hands and kissing, isn't exactly something that's widely accepted yet. I’ve always been a proponent of legal reform and educational seminars—you know, showing folks that we are just regular, everyday people—but the political climate here is just... well, it's tough. You see politicians in Congress using slurs to describe us, which really shows their level of respect—or lack thereof. They make these sweeping statements about how "the universe is heterosexual" and how society expects everyone to conform to that norm. It's exhausting.
agent, if you’re actually being serious right now, then you’ve got things a bit twisted—because if you genuinely view yourself as disordered, then you're creating your own problem; otherwise, medical science doesn't classify us as sick or mentally ill.

Honestly, if it weren't for those parades, most people would probably assume homosexuality doesn't even exist.
The strongest protections for gay rights are found in places that embrace these marches, like the Netherlands, Belgium, the United Kingdom, Canada, and especially California in the United States.

On the flip side, look at a place like Tungusia where there are no parades; you'll constantly hear people claiming that "we don't have any gays here." 😠

If Black Americans hadn't stood their ground and fought for visibility instead of hiding away, they might still be living under the shadow of slavery without the right to marry whoever they love.
And if women hadn't marched boldly for their fundamental rights, they might still be stuck being uneducated domestic workers without even a single vote to their name.

That's fantastic! ☕

redharbor9 said:What kind of seminars are we talking about here? Presenting them as "normal"? I don't see how that actually does anything... honestly, that kind of old-school education is pretty pointless...

I sat through one seminar once where they told us, "As psychologists, you have to tell people homosexuality is normal, and then they'll just accept it." What an absurd joke. Logic doesn't work when prejudice hits the emotional side of things—it blocks everything. Besides, those techniques don't even stick long-term...

And at the end of the day... when I think about the group that jumped me on the street yesterday while I was walking home from the grocery store (around 7 PM)... I think the only thing that would teach them a lesson is having laws as strict as they have in China...

I recently attended a roundtable discussion regarding LGBTQ+ rights... and some psychologists seriously argued that we should just explain the research findings to people. Most of us (myself included!) just laughed at that idea. It’s exactly what you were saying about the different components of an attitude, and even our experiences here on the forum show that this approach just doesn't make sense 🙄 though, TV is a massive influence, and having better media representation of gay people could slowly shift public opinion over time—just like how proper information in sex education helps.

p.s. I feel so bad... I really can't wrap my head around people who can't even ignore differences and instead choose to act out like that...

Anonymous said:Why are you even ashamed? Just embrace who you are.😉

There's nobody else around! 😢

Harold Anderson3 said:In a certain sense, it really is the best way to be 👍

one gender will always be slightly more attractive to you.

Samuel Nelson24 said:So, I guess I was right all along

The real issue starts at home

It’s all about the parents

I look around and see how many young guys today are basically destined to be gay

Their families are just totally broken up

You’ve got these kids living with their moms until they're twenty

They’re missing that father figure entirely

Of course they end up turning gay—they never had a dad around, and the mom is just... well, she's doing too much

That isn't actually true.
I was just chatting with a psychologist about this, and she mentioned that this idea is really just a dogma based on a poor interpretation of outdated Freudian theories.
She noted that there isn't a single shred of scientific data suggesting that upbringing has any link to homosexuality.

The roots of homosexuality are primarily tied to the balance of female and male hormones in the mother, DURING the final trimester of fetal development, and no, it has nothing to do with the hormones in a child once they are born, which is why homosexuality CANNOT be "cured" by administering hormones.

(If you give testosterone to a gay man, all you're doing is increasing his libido; you aren't going to "redirect" his sexual or emotional desires toward the opposite sex)

So, parenting doesn't play a role in homosexuality, and giving someone testosterone won't turn a gay man straight—you'll just end up with a guy who's extremely hypersexual.☕

Beyond that, there's a distinction
between
homosexual vs. homoaffective, and between homosexual behavior versus sexual orientation.

When heterosexual inmates engage in sexual acts together, that's homosexual behavior, not necessarily a homosexual orientation.

In many parts of the world or in the Middle East, active homosexuals aren't even viewed as homosexuals, but rather as heterosexuals; the label is often reserved only for those who are passive.

In epidemiological studies, researchers always ask: HAVE YOU HAD SEXUAL CONTACT WITH MEN, rather than
asking if someone is hetero, bi, or gay... because plenty of people sleep with men while still considering themselves straight.
That’s why the category MSM or M2M (male-to-male sex) was introduced.

I'm curious, what arguments do homophobes actually use against homoaffectivity?
Like, say two guys live together, share a bed, and kiss, but don't actually have sex?
What would the homophobes say then? "Ew, they're being too intimate"? (It's funny coming from the same people who probably daydream about their girlfriends being more adventurous behind closed doors haha)

HOMOPHOBES need to realize that for many men, it isn't just about a sexual connection, but a DEEP EMOTIONAL BOND. Honestly, I think some homophobes just lack a sense of connection in their own lives, so they get jealous
of people who have stable relationships filled with love and emotion. 😉

My doctors insisted I get my testosterone levels checked, and as it turns out, everything is perfectly within the normal range.

Amanda Morris3 said:That isn't actually true.
I was just chatting with a psychologist about this, and she mentioned that this idea is really just a dogma based on a poor interpretation of outdated Freudian theories.
She noted that there isn't a single shred of scientific data suggesting that upbringing has any link to homosexuality.

The roots of homosexuality are primarily tied to the balance of female and male hormones in the mother, DURING the final trimester of fetal development, and no, it has nothing to do with the hormones in a child once they are born, which is why homosexuality CANNOT be "cured" by administering hormones.

(If you give testosterone to a gay man, all you're doing is increasing his libido; you aren't going to "redirect" his sexual or emotional desires toward the opposite sex)

So, parenting doesn't play a role in homosexuality, and giving someone testosterone won't turn a gay man straight—you'll just end up with a guy who's extremely hypersexual.☕

Beyond that, there's a distinction
between
homosexual vs. homoaffective, and between homosexual behavior versus sexual orientation.

When heterosexual inmates engage in sexual acts together, that's homosexual behavior, not necessarily a homosexual orientation.

In many parts of the world or in the Middle East, active homosexuals aren't even viewed as homosexuals, but rather as heterosexuals; the label is often reserved only for those who are passive.

In epidemiological studies, researchers always ask: HAVE YOU HAD SEXUAL CONTACT WITH MEN, rather than
asking if someone is hetero, bi, or gay... because plenty of people sleep with men while still considering themselves straight.
That’s why the category MSM or M2M (male-to-male sex) was introduced.

I'm curious, what arguments do homophobes actually use against homoaffectivity?
Like, say two guys live together, share a bed, and kiss, but don't actually have sex?
What would the homophobes say then? "Ew, they're being too intimate"? (It's funny coming from the same people who probably daydream about their girlfriends being more adventurous behind closed doors haha)

HOMOPHOBES need to realize that for many men, it isn't just about a sexual connection, but a DEEP EMOTIONAL BOND. Honestly, I think some homophobes just lack a sense of connection in their own lives, so they get jealous
of people who have stable relationships filled with love and emotion. 😉

I’d cut the "main drivers" part. For example, stress during the first trimester in male fetuses bumps up the odds of homosexuality... plus nicotine hits female fetuses too...

Look, I just landed here from Mars... but wait, hold on, did this whole thread just turn into—or is someone trying to make it an—argument about whether we should be "curing" gay people??? Why would anyone even want to "cure" them just to make life easier for bigots? 🤷 I mean, life is already easy enough for those folks; they mostly stick together in packs, unless they're terrified of being "assimilated" by some pushy minority 🤣 But there's a different name for that, isn't there? Persecution mania... or maybe just confusing sexual impulses...

I don't know, explicit sexual behavior in public really bugs me, regardless of whether it's a gay or straight couple. It doesn't strike me as spontaneous or "love"—it looks like primitive teenage punk rebellion meant to shock the small-minded. For what? Oh right, someone mentioned how women and Black Americans fought for their rights that way... except the difference is that Black Americans and women were fighting for the right to do exactly what the "privileged" groups were already doing in public. Despite all the exhibitionists out there, I still think most mentally healthy people keep their sex lives behind closed doors, no matter who they're sleeping with...

A five-year-old kid could be pretty traumatized if he loses his dad early on and grows up without him, especially if he's stuck with a super dominant mother.

Maybe that’s why someone ends up turning gay later.

Crap ...😂

redharbor9 said:I’d cut the "main drivers" part. For example, stress during the first trimester in male fetuses bumps up the odds of homosexuality... plus nicotine hits female fetuses too...

then those percentages would be way higher
☕

I said it increases the odds, it doesn't cause 🙂