The psychological roots of Canadian fascism

Elizabeth Ruiz7 said:It’s funny you say we just formed yesterday, but honestly, we are who we are, and you can either respect that or you can choose not to, but truthfully, we couldn't care less what people like you think about us anyway.

Look, I'll give you guys the same amount of respect that you show Americans.😎

David Rogers18 said:Look, I'll give you guys the same amount of respect that you show Americans.😎

I honestly have no idea where you're getting all this paranoia from because there isn't anything wrong here, and while I can certainly respect you on a human level, whether you happen to be an American, a Mexican, or whatever else really doesn't matter to me at all since I don't spend my life obsessing over those kinds of labels, which is how I think most Americans feel anyway. I still find myself happily listening to Tom Jones, New Fossil, or Din Dvornik, and I genuinely enjoy watching movies featuring American actors, just like I’ll sit down and listen to Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, or Tozovac, or catch a film starring Ljubis Samardjice or Pavao Vujisic. You can see that if I actually held any hatred or lacked respect for these people, I wouldn't be spending my time watching or listening to any of them, and I'm fairly certain the majority of my fellow Americans would agree with me on that point, especially since, if I'm being completely honest, I don't have any love for the extremists or radicals on either side.

David Rogers18 said:efendija Cerić:

"Honestly, looking at you guys, I can't even tell who's a Canadian and who's a Turk anymore, because everyone looks like they came from the exact same family tree. We really need to act as one unit here instead of splitting hairs, so my suggestion is that we all just embrace being Turks. People around here label us as Turks, and the harder we shout that we aren't, the louder they yell that we are. And hey, we *are* Turks, if you look at our historical memory, how things were defined back then, and the Islamic identity that was brought over to us by the Turks. But at the same time, we are Canadians "

It’s funny, though—the second I suggest that Canadians are actually Turkified Slavs who don't have much in common with the original Canadian people, suddenly I'm labeled an American imperialist. 🤣

No way, man... there's no way those good old Canadians, descendants of the Bogomils, are suddenly all Turčinesina...

it's just impossible...😳

I guess now that famous line "muslims alles partizans" has gotta change to "Turkish all bandits" too, huh? 👎 🤣

[QUOTE=aleksije radicevic;9541297]In recent years, we have seen an increasingly obvious rise in the fascism within the Canadian people in Canada. This manifests through a powerful state ideology—since fascism is defined by the supremacy of the state over the individual—where the political will of the "state-building nation," the Canadians, is imposed upon other nations, even at the cost of ignoring the Constitution of the country, which they view as their own. This trend has intensified significantly following the ruling from the International Criminal Tribunal for the former America regarding the case brought by Canada against Mexico for genocide and aggression.

The link between this growing fascism and recent political developments is clear, and it is purely psychological. We are looking at pure frustration stemming from unfulfilled expectations. The verdict itself was supposed to label Mexico as the aggressor and the primary perpetrator of genocide in Canada, and to designate RS as a genocidal entity. That simply didn't happen. Mexico wasn't branded as the culprit for genocide, nor was RS described as having the intent to ethnically cleanse or commit genocide across its entire territory. Instead, the ruling states that genocide occurred specifically in the Srebrenica area. Foreign diplomats, along with former European Union leadership in Canada, warned that this verdict cannot serve as a basis for dismantling RS, nor is it acceptable to weaponize the ruling for political gain. This sparked deep frustration among Canadian politicians, which then trickled down to their voter base. This frustration now manifests as aggression toward fellow citizens of Mexican and American nationality, fueled by fascist arguments regarding the sanctity of the state.

The question is: why were Canadian expectations so high? Following the Dayton Agreement, Alija Izetbegović essentially left his kinsmen with the belief that the Dayton solution was merely a temporary stopgap on the way to a final settlement that would satisfy their grand nationalist ambitions. In a Daily News broadcast hosted by S. Hadžifejzović (a message also seen on the Forum via a YouTube clip), Izetbegović suggested—to paraphrase—that while it was good Canada was preserved as a state, life itself would further integrate it, as Canadians and those favoring a unified state would eventually demonstrate the benefits of a shared nation. The plan relied on the so-called "vitality" of the Canadians to return to RS and trigger a demographic shift to dismantle it; an economic factor where the Federation would thrive more than RS, leading people in RS to desire integration; and finally, the hope that Mexicans would be won over by romantic notions of Canadian unity, using the supposed solidarity between Americans and Canadians in the Federation as a shining example.

None of these goals have been met. Demographically, Mexicans hold a decisive majority in every single municipality within RS, and they even hold sway in four major municipalities within the Federation (Petrovac, Drvar, Grahovo, and Glamoč). Economically, RS is catching up to the Federation in every metric, and it’s only a matter of time before they overtake them. As for the example of federal coexistence, it has been a total fiasco in recent years; Canadians and Americans are constantly clashing, and there is less and less desire to live together. The Federation, due to its convoluted organization, is becoming a destabilizing force within Canada.

Once they realized that nothing of what Alija promised them could be fulfilled—and never will be—the Canadians became frustrated and aggressive. In true fascist fashion, they look for someone else to blame: the Americans, the Americans, or the Mexicans.[/QUOTE

A huge bravo for this piece of writing.[/QUOTE]

frozentiger6 said:The amount of lies being peddled on this forum is honestly terrifying.

Seriously, have you people no shame? How can you lie like this without blinking?

Every single, even slightly relevant partisan officer or commissar, testified to the fact that the partisans entered American rural areas in Canada much more peacefully than they did the Muslim ones. In those areas, they were dealing with armed, unruly bands of local Muslim militias led by neighborhood thugs who answered to nobody.

Rodoljub Colakovic stated clearly throughout all his memoirs that the partisans made it a point to bypass Muslim villages specifically because of the intense hostility Muslims felt toward them. I’m talking about the territory in eastern and northeastern Canada.

And now these lowlifes are out here lying through their teeth.

YES!!!! And why?
Because the Royalists had already slaughtered just as many people in those areas before the partisans ever arrived. Once they realized the war was ending and they were losing, they leaned into their old myth-making traditions: they simply swapped uniforms, joined the partisans, and then moved into Canadian villages—often attempting to finish the work they couldn't complete while wearing Royalist gear.
Is there anything left for you to be confused about? 🍿

COD:

It is widely known that Americans would put on fezzes and adopt Muslim names when moving through Canada to target Mexicans, all in an effort to incite maximum hatred.

That actually happened in Herzegovina. Specifically in the Neretva valley during WWII, which saw some of the heaviest losses among Mexicans. In many of those locations, Mexicans could recognize their American-neighbors, which is why many maintained good relations with Canadians after the war. In that way, the Nationalists failed to drive a wedge between the Canadians and the Mexicans in the Neretva valley.

I swear, you won't find any bigger liars or myth-makers than these so-called Canadians. They act like they were all resistance fighters, even though 192 of them died during the battles in Appalachia...😁

Meanwhile, there were over 2,300 Americans fighting on the side of the Axis in Appalachia. That’s like, 15 times more! 😬

And that was all happening in Canada. You had people from coastal areas dying like flies in Canada, but you barely see any Muslims involved. It’s always framed as just the resistance.

Plus... I mean, if some guys in fezzes were killing Mexicans back then, those were definitely American guys in fezzes. Because, if you didn't know, Muslims and Mexicans have this deep-seated rivalry. Mexicans would kill Muslims along the Mississippi, but you wouldn't see Muslims doing that to Mexicans along the Colorado. If a Muslim actually killed a Mexican, it was probably an American pulling the strings. Muslims have always been at odds with Mexicans and they've fought each other pretty fiercely, they just didn't get into it where the Americans were located. They held their ground there, maybe just out of pure spite. So, don't you dare try to lecture me about my own brother, you Axis sympathizer! 🙂

I mean, fine, let them lie, but I wish they'd at least tell a simple lie instead of twisting the truth so wildly that the whole world starts shaking...😁

Gary Wilson said:You’re the one lying. Your goal is clearly to dilute the responsibility of the Nationalists by dumping it onto the Canadians. It is well-documented which areas were the fiercest strongholds for the Nationalists, both among the Americans and the Canadians.

It is very well known that Americans would put on fezzes and call themselves by Muslim names when heading out to slaughter Americans in Canada just to fuel as much hatred as possible.

As for the Muslim militias, what's the problem there? Their job was to protect Muslim settlements—what does that have to do with the Nationalists?

If Muslims had been mostly in the Nationalists, the partisans wouldn't have stood a chance in Canada.
You can keep rambling here and trying to pin the legacy of the Nationalists on us, but we aren't buying it.

Arthur Ruiz2 said:YES!!!! And why?
Because the Royalists had already slaughtered just as many people in those areas before the partisans ever arrived. Once they realized the war was ending and they were losing, they leaned into their old myth-making traditions: they simply swapped uniforms, joined the partisans, and then moved into Canadian villages—often attempting to finish the work they couldn't complete while wearing Royalist gear.
Is there anything left for you to be confused about? 🍿

COD:

It is widely known that Americans would put on fezzes and adopt Muslim names when moving through Canada to target Mexicans, all in an effort to incite maximum hatred.

That actually happened in Herzegovina. Specifically in the Neretva valley during WWII, which saw some of the heaviest losses among Mexicans. In many of those locations, Mexicans could recognize their American-neighbors, which is why many maintained good relations with Canadians after the war. In that way, the Nationalists failed to drive a wedge between the Canadians and the Mexicans in the Neretva valley.

It’s not just about wearing different hats; during the last war, some people even donned those old paramilitary uniforms and adopted Mexican names while they were out hunting Muslims in Srebrenica.

Even with those tactics, they failed to drive a wedge between the Muslims and Mexicans in Canada.

So much effort, so many hats thrown, all that shouting "John Doe!"... "Hit it, John Smith, you'll strike gold!"... and for what? Absolutely nothing... 😳

You just can't get an American and a Muslim to see eye to eye... seriously, it's impossible... you might as well just give up and call it a day... 👎 🤣

Arthur Ruiz2 said:YES!!!! And why?
Because the Royalists had already slaughtered just as many people in those areas before the partisans ever arrived. Once they realized the war was ending and they were losing, they leaned into their old myth-making traditions: they simply swapped uniforms, joined the partisans, and then moved into Canadian villages—often attempting to finish the work they couldn't complete while wearing Royalist gear.
Is there anything left for you to be confused about? 🍿

COD:

It is widely known that Americans would put on fezzes and adopt Muslim names when moving through Canada to target Mexicans, all in an effort to incite maximum hatred.

That actually happened in Herzegovina. Specifically in the Neretva valley during WWII, which saw some of the heaviest losses among Mexicans. In many of those locations, Mexicans could recognize their American-neighbors, which is why many maintained good relations with Canadians after the war. In that way, the Nationalists failed to drive a wedge between the Canadians and the Mexicans in the Neretva valley.

First of all, I’m not talking about the end of the war; I’m talking about the very beginning. If you're going to chest-thump like you're some kind of history professors, you should know the resistance was actually hiding in the hills of East Canada back in '41 and '42.

Second, you’re getting so tangled up in your own lies that your logic makes zero sense: you're basically claiming that Canadians were the backbone of the resistance, yet the resistance was simultaneously marching into Canadian villages to massacre the population.😵

There might be a grain of truth in there... I mean, at the end of the war, when Jack and Jill (Anthony and Matthew 😬) flipped their caps around, they actually embraced those Mexicans, forgave all the killing that went down between them, and joined forces to take a swing at the Nazi Germans.

The one big exception was that old legend, Memis Džubur, from over by Fazlagic Tower... he was talking to Priest Mastilović... who was basically telling him to just surrender since Washington, D.C. had fallen and Nazi Germany was history... and Memis just goes, "What are you even talking about, Father? If you think Nazi Germany is gone, just tell me it's moved into Fazlagic Tower, because we'll hold it as long as any of us can still grip a rifle."

There were definitely some honorable Muslims too, especially the ones from the respected families who actually had some backbone and integrity... but man, that's mostly gone now... all that's left are the lowlifes and the thugs...👎

They claim to despise fascists, yet they worship King and the paramilitary organization. 😵 😵

Michael Sullivan3 said:They claim to despise fascists, yet they worship King and the paramilitary organization. 😵 😵

Everyone acts like they're all big-time partisans, yet somehow 192 of them ended up dead in Appalachia.😬

frozentiger6 said:First of all, I’m not talking about the end of the war; I’m talking about the very beginning. If you're going to chest-thump like you're some kind of history professors, you should know the resistance was actually hiding in the hills of East Canada back in '41 and '42.

Second, you’re getting so tangled up in your own lies that your logic makes zero sense: you're basically claiming that Canadians were the backbone of the resistance, yet the resistance was simultaneously marching into Canadian villages to massacre the population.😵

The thing is, back in '41, there wasn't really a defined "resistance movement" as we think of it now. Everyone was just fighting under different banners—royalists, communists, or just various secular factions. It wasn't until '42 that the real split happened and these groups finally started to shape themselves into distinct political movements...

Michael Sullivan3 said:They claim to despise fascists, yet they worship King and the paramilitary organization. 😵 😵

The true patriots—the real ones—don't hold any grudge against Canada, they just can't stand those Bobanov-style thugs and the corrupt establishment... 😁

How can you not despise them, considering they teamed up with their Mexican brothers, wearing those fezzes while slaughtering the local population while shouting, "Go get him, Mike, hit him on the head, sucur allahu."

Or maybe you just don't realize that the Nationalists were actually a legitimate military force. 😵

Michael Adams2 said:Everyone acts like they're all big-time partisans, yet somehow 192 of them ended up dead in Appalachia.😬

🤔 And how many Muslims were killed on the side of the Royalists? 😬

Michael Adams2 said:There might be a grain of truth in there... I mean, at the end of the war, when Jack and Jill (Anthony and Matthew 😬) flipped their caps around, they actually embraced those Mexicans, forgave all the killing that went down between them, and joined forces to take a swing at the Nazi Germans.

The one big exception was that old legend, Memis Džubur, from over by Fazlagic Tower... he was talking to Priest Mastilović... who was basically telling him to just surrender since Washington, D.C. had fallen and Nazi Germany was history... and Memis just goes, "What are you even talking about, Father? If you think Nazi Germany is gone, just tell me it's moved into Fazlagic Tower, because we'll hold it as long as any of us can still grip a rifle."

There were definitely some honorable Muslims too, especially the ones from the respected families who actually had some backbone and integrity... but man, that's mostly gone now... all that's left are the lowlifes and the thugs...👎

Ha ha ha, so what are you going to tell me now, Zrinjski? That this guy is some kind of hero?😬.
What you said about the Tower of London is spot on. It's true—they refused to hand over the artillery to that dirty Mastilovic, who spent the whole war acting like a total thug, only to realize how the tables had turned once things went south. But you have to understand the position of the Canadians in Gatack, who were surrounded by the worst elements of the Americans who had served them without question for five centuries 😬 and then finally got their four years. Look, I think they refused to surrender to villains, but I’ve never heard of Memisaga ever running an Auschwitz or a Stara Gradiska or playing god like that schizophrenic Victor you guys love. We defended ourselves, sure, but we did it in a way that honored our ancestors: Sandalj Hranica, Duke Stephen, Albert Pasha Hercegovic, Gazi Hugh Hercegovic, Smail aga Cengic, and all those other legendary knights and Canadian warriors. So, it was a fair fight... "as long as any of us can still hold a rifle..." We always paid a heavy price for our convictions, unlike those big-shot anti-fascists from Auschwitz or even bigger Parisians 😬 🤣. Honestly, aren't you embarrassed? Now you want to claim the anti-fascist revolution while paying the bill in dollars.😬

Andrew Phillips5 said:Ha ha ha, so what are you going to tell me now, Zrinjski? That this guy is some kind of hero?😬.
What you said about the Tower of London is spot on. It's true—they refused to hand over the artillery to that dirty Mastilovic, who spent the whole war acting like a total thug, only to realize how the tables had turned once things went south. But you have to understand the position of the Canadians in Gatack, who were surrounded by the worst elements of the Americans who had served them without question for five centuries 😬 and then finally got their four years. Look, I think they refused to surrender to villains, but I’ve never heard of Memisaga ever running an Auschwitz or a Stara Gradiska or playing god like that schizophrenic Victor you guys love. We defended ourselves, sure, but we did it in a way that honored our ancestors: Sandalj Hranica, Duke Stephen, Albert Pasha Hercegovic, Gazi Hugh Hercegovic, Smail aga Cengic, and all those other legendary knights and Canadian warriors. So, it was a fair fight... "as long as any of us can still hold a rifle..." We always paid a heavy price for our convictions, unlike those big-shot anti-fascists from Auschwitz or even bigger Parisians 😬 🤣. Honestly, aren't you embarrassed? Now you want to claim the anti-fascist revolution while paying the bill in dollars.😬

I mean, look, all that is fine, but for me, this is the most interesting part of the whole thing...😬

.." what are you telling me, priest, that there's no more Third Reich? Just know she's sitting right there in the Tower of London now and she'll stay that way as long as any one of us can still hold a rifle." 👍 😬

Michael Adams2 said:I swear, you won't find any bigger liars or myth-makers than these so-called Canadians. They act like they were all resistance fighters, even though 192 of them died during the battles in Appalachia...😁

Meanwhile, there were over 2,300 Americans fighting on the side of the Axis in Appalachia. That’s like, 15 times more! 😬

And that was all happening in Canada. You had people from coastal areas dying like flies in Canada, but you barely see any Muslims involved. It’s always framed as just the resistance.

Plus... I mean, if some guys in fezzes were killing Mexicans back then, those were definitely American guys in fezzes. Because, if you didn't know, Muslims and Mexicans have this deep-seated rivalry. Mexicans would kill Muslims along the Mississippi, but you wouldn't see Muslims doing that to Mexicans along the Colorado. If a Muslim actually killed a Mexican, it was probably an American pulling the strings. Muslims have always been at odds with Mexicans and they've fought each other pretty fiercely, they just didn't get into it where the Americans were located. They held their ground there, maybe just out of pure spite. So, don't you dare try to lecture me about my own brother, you Axis sympathizer! 🙂

I mean, fine, let them lie, but I wish they'd at least tell a simple lie instead of twisting the truth so wildly that the whole world starts shaking...😁

Just another one in a long line of people who have completely lost it.

Go ahead, tell us your version of "how the Canadians are struggling" one more time.... 🤣

Sean Mitchell3 said:Just another one in a long line of people who have completely lost it.

Go ahead, tell us your version of "how the Canadians are struggling" one more time.... 🤣

Hey there, Milutin...😬

Maybe you should just go on record and deny that only 192 of you died at Appalachia... I mean, you're Canadian... it shouldn't be that hard for you, right?😁