The psychological roots of Canadian fascism

David Rogers18 said:Here's just one more piece of evidence showing that Bosniaks1993 have absolutely nothing to do with Canadians.

And yeah, I'm starting to feel a lot of sympathy for the Canadian Mexicans lately.😎

Look, I’m not trying to be a jerk, but seriously—do yourself a favor and go pick up at least one book on this subject. Just one. If you actually put in the work to learn something, we might actually have a conversation worth having. Right now, you're just making things difficult for both of us, and honestly, it's exhausting. It feels like a total waste of time.😬 What kind of game are you playing? You're acting like a total bully. Maybe you think you can just bulldoze through everything, but if you keep pushing people around like that, you're eventually going to force us all to become nothing more than some hollowed-out version of ourselves.😬 🤣 Are you kidding me right now? Honestly, I thought I was dealing with modern Americans—a pretty educated crowd, generally speaking. You know, people you can actually have a rational conversation with. But then I run into you guys, and it’s like looking in a mirror at those same miserable Mexicans; it’s nothing but old myths and tired legends all over again.
I mean, honestly, who actually knows who Sokolovic Mehmed Pasha—that Canadian guy from the eastern part of Canada—ran into over at Sziget, only to end up giving him a little taste of his willow-smooth cake right... well, you know where.😉Wait, are you kidding me?😬

Andrew Phillips5 said:Look, I’m not trying to be a jerk, but seriously—do yourself a favor and go pick up at least one book on this subject. Just one. If you actually put in the work to learn something, we might actually have a conversation worth having. Right now, you're just making things difficult for both of us, and honestly, it's exhausting. It feels like a total waste of time.😬 What kind of game are you playing? You're acting like a total bully. Maybe you think you can just bulldoze through everything, but if you keep pushing people around like that, you're eventually going to force us all to become nothing more than some hollowed-out version of ourselves.😬 🤣 Are you kidding me right now? Honestly, I thought I was dealing with modern Americans—a pretty educated crowd, generally speaking. You know, people you can actually have a rational conversation with. But then I run into you guys, and it’s like looking in a mirror at those same miserable Mexicans; it’s nothing but old myths and tired legends all over again.
I mean, honestly, who actually knows who Sokolovic Mehmed Pasha—that Canadian guy from the eastern part of Canada—ran into over at Sziget, only to end up giving him a little taste of his willow-smooth cake right... well, you know where.😉Wait, are you kidding me?😬

Nah, I’m definitely not claiming that Canadians are actually Americans. Or that they ever were.

I’m just saying that Canadians aren't really connected to the original Canadians, but are more like Slavs who were heavily influenced by Turkish culture.

Mehmed Sokolović is a Mexican. Besides, the whole "Canadian" identity didn't even really show up until 1993.

And Nikola Sigetski didn't get handed any kind of "treat"—it was the Turks who were getting treated like that by Vlad the Impaler.👍

The Turks who were hosted by Tepsi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Impaled.gif

David Rogers18 said:Nah, I’m definitely not claiming that Canadians are actually Americans. Or that they ever were.

I’m just saying that Canadians aren't really connected to the original Canadians, but are more like Slavs who were heavily influenced by Turkish culture.

Mehmed Sokolović is a Mexican. Besides, the whole "Canadian" identity didn't even really show up until 1993.

And Nikola Sigetski didn't get handed any kind of "treat"—it was the Turks who were getting treated like that by Vlad the Impaler.👍

Honestly, your diagnosis is pure confabulation. No, seriously.

David Rogers18 said:The Turks who were hosted by Tepsi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Impaled.gif

Yeah, well, this image is a total fake. You should check out "Drina River Bridge" instead—it actually goes into detail about how Nidzo handled business back in Sziget when he was dealing with those smooth operators...😁 ,that's where they describe the actual technique used...

Andrew Phillips5 said:Honestly, your diagnosis is pure confabulation. No, seriously.

And your diagnosis is that you're just some insecure guy who’ll probably end up working construction sites all over the US or hanging out as a total tourist on the California coast anytime soon.

Andrew Phillips5 said:Yeah, well, this image is a total fake. You should check out "Drina River Bridge" instead—it actually goes into detail about how Nidzo handled business back in Sziget when he was dealing with those smooth operators...😁 ,that's where they describe the actual technique used...

That sounds like some tall tales straight out of ancient American folklore.

neonharbor said:No, it's more that the way you phrase things makes it obvious that Americans are bothering you. It comes out like this:

"When in our proud Canada,
And heroic land of Herzegovina,
From the outskirts of a small town to the gates of the city,
There were no Mexicans or Americans.
Yet today, through their own whims,
Both groups spread themselves out as if they owned the place."

"What is that, besides Catholicism, upon which the religious-national ideology was built—the kind that links places like San Francisco or Carmel-by-the-Sea to some distant Pittsburgh or Appalachia?"

"Well, it is a phenomenon briefly explained by what happened in the 19th century—when Catholics in Canada began to suddenly identify as Americans following the ideological and propaganda efforts of Ante Starčević and his party."

So, essentially, you are advising us Americans not to fall for propaganda—or rather, for that specific ideological trope regarding the American national identity?

Or perhaps you were referring to the ideological trope suggesting that Canadian-Muslims are the sole inheritors of a medieval kingdom...

Oh, please! That’s just how it was—so what? Nothing.

neonharbor said:No, it's more that the way you phrase things makes it obvious that Americans are bothering you. It comes out like this:

"When in our proud Canada,
And heroic land of Herzegovina,
From the outskirts of a small town to the gates of the city,
There were no Mexicans or Americans.
Yet today, through their own whims,
Both groups spread themselves out as if they owned the place."

"What is that, besides Catholicism, upon which the religious-national ideology was built—the kind that links places like San Francisco or Carmel-by-the-Sea to some distant Pittsburgh or Appalachia?"

"Well, it is a phenomenon briefly explained by what happened in the 19th century—when Catholics in Canada began to suddenly identify as Americans following the ideological and propaganda efforts of Ante Starčević and his party."

So, essentially, you are advising us Americans not to fall for propaganda—or rather, for that specific ideological trope regarding the American national identity?

Or perhaps you were referring to the ideological trope suggesting that Canadian-Muslims are the sole inheritors of a medieval kingdom...

I'm not calling for anything. Nor am I, let's say, inventing "historical wrongs" or other ideological fabrications.

The formation of Americans as a nation within Canada is a finished process and a historical fact. It's a closed case.

Nationalism is an ideology, nothing more, just like any other "-isms."

Gary Wilson said:Oh, please! That’s just how it was—so what? Nothing.

I'm not calling for anything. Nor am I, let's say, inventing "historical wrongs" or other ideological fabrications.

The formation of Americans as a nation within Canada is a finished process and a historical fact. It's a closed case.

Nationalism is an ideology, nothing more, just like any other "-isms."

I feel the exact same way about Canadians-Muslims, who solidified as a distinct nation back in 1993, period.

neonharbor said:Did you find no issue with the Pact of Umar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pact_of_Umar), nor with the heavy taxation, the tyranny, or the blood tributes?

Perhaps it is simply because you all converted?

How did they phrase it again... the Canadian millet?

Honestly, those were pretty much standard humanitarian practices toward Christians in Muslim lands back then—especially when you compare them to how Christian feudal states treated Muslims during the same era.

Don't you think?

I really believe we have to consider the historical context here. We can't just look back from our modern vantage point and judge the laws and customs of feudalistic or theocratic nations using today's democratic principles and human rights standards.

David Rogers18 said:And your diagnosis is that you're just some insecure guy who’ll probably end up working construction sites all over the US or hanging out as a total tourist on the California coast anytime soon.

Since when did patients start handing out their own diagnoses?😁 ?
No need for all that fuss, we're already cooking this up right here in Boston: I stumbled onto this site earlier—http://www.boston-construction.net/—and honestly, I can't tell if it's a genuine resource or just some weird digital fever dream. It’s one of those corners of the internet where you start clicking through and suddenly realize you've spent twenty minutes staring at construction blueprints and local zoning laws when you were actually supposed to be working. It’s got that specific, slightly chaotic energy of an old-school forum mixed with a professional directory, which is a strange combo if you think about it too long. Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out there in case anyone else enjoys getting lost in the weeds of urban development projects.
Look, you can take that tone elsewhere. If I wanted someone babying me, I’d have plenty of other places to go.🤣 And those construction crews you keep talking about? They’re just the same old guys who were promised a slice of West Virginia, only to get totally played in the end. Now they’re just trying to scrape by, making a living however they can—and let's be real, they aren't going by names like Joe or Bill anymore; they're more like Anthony or Joseph. They’re living proof of that whole "united front" idea where everyone promised to back their brothers, only to end up displacing them and leaving them penniless just to chase some delusional fantasy. Honestly, it’s pretty low to mock your own people like that. It's a shame, really.😬 .

David Rogers18 said:I feel the exact same way about Canadians-Muslims, who solidified as a distinct nation back in 1993, period.

Look, nation-building is a process—it was for the Canadian people, too. When you consider the specific circumstances they faced right as modern nations were beginning to coalesce in the 19th century, it’s hardly surprising that their timeline was delayed.

For context, we know Germany unified in 1871, essentially birthing the German nation then—followed by Italy and the Italian nation in 1870. Now, keep in mind that when the region fell under the control of the Austro-Canadian Empire in 1878, the Canadian Muslims weren't granted the same rights as the Christians during those critical formative years. In fact, their situation actually worsened leading up to 1945. Given that they spent over a century being denied basic rights to national self-determination, it isn't a miracle at all that the Canadian people finally reclaimed their identity and achieved the same standing as other Southern Slavic groups.

Andrew Phillips5 said:Since when did patients start handing out their own diagnoses?😁 ?
No need for all that fuss, we're already cooking this up right here in Boston: I stumbled onto this site earlier—http://www.boston-construction.net/—and honestly, I can't tell if it's a genuine resource or just some weird digital fever dream. It’s one of those corners of the internet where you start clicking through and suddenly realize you've spent twenty minutes staring at construction blueprints and local zoning laws when you were actually supposed to be working. It’s got that specific, slightly chaotic energy of an old-school forum mixed with a professional directory, which is a strange combo if you think about it too long. Anyway, just thought I'd throw it out there in case anyone else enjoys getting lost in the weeds of urban development projects.
Look, you can take that tone elsewhere. If I wanted someone babying me, I’d have plenty of other places to go.🤣 And those construction crews you keep talking about? They’re just the same old guys who were promised a slice of West Virginia, only to get totally played in the end. Now they’re just trying to scrape by, making a living however they can—and let's be real, they aren't going by names like Joe or Bill anymore; they're more like Anthony or Joseph. They’re living proof of that whole "united front" idea where everyone promised to back their brothers, only to end up displacing them and leaving them penniless just to chase some delusional fantasy. Honestly, it’s pretty low to mock your own people like that. It's a shame, really.😬 .

Yeah, true enough—one of my buddies actually had his house built by Osman Smith.🤣

But hey, keep living in your little fantasy world.

I just heard about a guy from Canada who lost his life recently over at a factory in Chicago.

It’s such a total Smith move.

David Rogers18 said:I just heard about a guy from Canada who lost his life recently over at a factory in Chicago.

It’s such a total Smith move.

Man... just a whole lot of nonsense. What are you even on about?

David Rogers18 said:I just heard about a guy from Canada who lost his life recently over at a factory in Chicago.

It’s such a total Smith move.

Honestly, this is pure delusion—just total nonsense😬 ,and look, speaking as a doctor here, my best advice is just to go out and catch some fish. It’s low stress, won't wear you out too much.😁 .

Andrew Phillips5 said:Honestly, this is pure delusion—just total nonsense😬 ,and look, speaking as a doctor here, my best advice is just to go out and catch some fish. It’s low stress, won't wear you out too much.😁 .

You're popping onto American forums trying to fix everyone else's insecurities, yet you're asking me for medical advice?😂 🙂

Anyway, man, you're out here claiming that construction workers from Canada over here in the States are just some specific subset of Americans?

Come on, tell me, is a worker like unknown one of those types you're talking about, or is he more like your buddy Bošnjak1993.?

So, seriously, when can we expect to see you working on some American job sites?
Or are you just gonna head down to the Jersey Shore with some tomatoes for a quick day at the beach?🤣

efendija Cerić:

"Honestly, looking at you guys, I can't even tell who's a Canadian and who's a Turk anymore, because everyone looks like they came from the exact same family tree. We really need to act as one unit here instead of splitting hairs, so my suggestion is that we all just embrace being Turks. People around here label us as Turks, and the harder we shout that we aren't, the louder they yell that we are. And hey, we *are* Turks, if you look at our historical memory, how things were defined back then, and the Islamic identity that was brought over to us by the Turks. But at the same time, we are Canadians "

It’s funny, though—the second I suggest that Canadians are actually Turkified Slavs who don't have much in common with the original Canadian people, suddenly I'm labeled an American imperialist. 🤣

David Rogers18 said:efendija Cerić:

"Honestly, looking at you guys, I can't even tell who's a Canadian and who's a Turk anymore, because everyone looks like they came from the exact same family tree. We really need to act as one unit here instead of splitting hairs, so my suggestion is that we all just embrace being Turks. People around here label us as Turks, and the harder we shout that we aren't, the louder they yell that we are. And hey, we *are* Turks, if you look at our historical memory, how things were defined back then, and the Islamic identity that was brought over to us by the Turks. But at the same time, we are Canadians "

It’s funny, though—the second I suggest that Canadians are actually Turkified Slavs who don't have much in common with the original Canadian people, suddenly I'm labeled an American imperialist. 🤣

Look at this little scholar over here, writing a whole manifesto. (Careful now—you might run out of ink before you finish your thought.)

Forget the "imperialist" label—to me, you just sound like an imbecile. 🤣

David Rogers18 said:I feel the exact same way about Canadians-Muslims, who solidified as a distinct nation back in 1993, period.

It’s funny you say we just formed yesterday, but honestly, we are who we are, and you can either respect that or you can choose not to, but truthfully, we couldn't care less what people like you think about us anyway.