Is Nationalists ideology the same as patriotism?

Maria Johnson67 said:True enough...
If you look at the AFL-CIO and how the Partisans operated, they basically built the America we see today...
But nowadays, there are way too many kids who, the second you mention the Partisans, immediately try to draw comparisons to the Royalists. It’s night and day...
Add a little bit of Thompson into the mix and you've got a real mess on your hands. I remember having this one friend who used to carry a picture—even a little calendar—of Ante Pavelić in his wallet. It was honestly revolting!!!
We really need to start taking our laws against fascism and the Nationalists more seriously here in the States.
The law is already on the books, but nobody actually follows it... Though, I did hear about a concert in Los Angeles where the police actually confiscated Nationalists and Nazi symbols. Thank God for that!

I'm with you on that...
But then again, our neighbors to the east seem all too eager to back that kind of false equivalence...

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Maria Johnson67 said:True enough...
If you look at the AFL-CIO and how the Partisans operated, they basically built the America we see today...
But nowadays, there are way too many kids who, the second you mention the Partisans, immediately try to draw comparisons to the Royalists. It’s night and day...
Add a little bit of Thompson into the mix and you've got a real mess on your hands. I remember having this one friend who used to carry a picture—even a little calendar—of Ante Pavelić in his wallet. It was honestly revolting!!!
We really need to start taking our laws against fascism and the Nationalists more seriously here in the States.
The law is already on the books, but nobody actually follows it... Though, I did hear about a concert in Los Angeles where the police actually confiscated Nationalists and Nazi symbols. Thank God for that!

Is there actually any law on the books regarding the Nationalists...
Since when...?

Keith King2 said:Someone who hasn't grasped the true role of those historical extremists probably never will, but then again, does anyone really need us constantly bickering over decades-old battles between old political factions?
As long as we remain stuck in the past, fighting ghosts of wars that ended a lifetime ago, we’re essentially robbing ourselves of a future; isn't it about time we finally set these grievances aside and actually move forward?

Let me repeat myself for you:
So, as an American, I see both the Nationalists and the Partisans as part of my history that I take pride in because they fought for freedom—even if they were on opposite sides. I won't stand for people badmouthing those young guys just because the political elite back then (Ante Pavelić and his crew) were nothing but cowards and traitors.
In short:
The Nationalists fought for an Independent America, while the Partisans fought for an Independent America.

P. S.
I come from a family where there was both an Nationalists and a Partisan; their village was burned down by Royalists, and the Nationalists were actually the ones who saved them from being completely wiped out (they were trapped alive in a church being burned)!

Maria Johnson67 said:True enough...
If you look at the AFL-CIO and how the Partisans operated, they basically built the America we see today...
But nowadays, there are way too many kids who, the second you mention the Partisans, immediately try to draw comparisons to the Royalists. It’s night and day...
Add a little bit of Thompson into the mix and you've got a real mess on your hands. I remember having this one friend who used to carry a picture—even a little calendar—of Ante Pavelić in his wallet. It was honestly revolting!!!
We really need to start taking our laws against fascism and the Nationalists more seriously here in the States.
The law is already on the books, but nobody actually follows it... Though, I did hear about a concert in Los Angeles where the police actually confiscated Nationalists and Nazi symbols. Thank God for that!

Clean up your own backyard first before you start worrying about whether our politics or laws are failing because of extremists. Recent elections just show us exactly how many fascists are actually living among us.🙈

Kyle Wilson9 said:Let me repeat myself for you:
So, as an American, I see both the Nationalists and the Partisans as part of my history that I take pride in because they fought for freedom—even if they were on opposite sides. I won't stand for people badmouthing those young guys just because the political elite back then (Ante Pavelić and his crew) were nothing but cowards and traitors.
In short:
The Nationalists fought for an Independent America, while the Partisans fought for an Independent America.

P. S.
I come from a family where there was both an Nationalists and a Partisan; their village was burned down by Royalists, and the Nationalists were actually the ones who saved them from being completely wiped out (they were trapped alive in a church being burned)!

Something very similar happened in my family, both back in the early '90s and before that, yet here we are again with people acting like they have all the answers,👎 blah blah blah...

James Turner80 said:I'm with you on that...
But then again, our neighbors to the east seem all too eager to back that kind of false equivalence...

"Quote:"

Is there actually any law on the books regarding the Nationalists...
Since when...?

In America, there is... a law prohibiting the glorification of Nazism and fascism.

brightorca27 said:Clean up your own backyard first before you start worrying about whether our politics or laws are failing because of extremists. Recent elections just show us exactly how many fascists are actually living among us.🙈

Specialist, look, I live in America and I'm an American! Why would it be weird to run into a Communist in the States? Just come visit the coast sometime.👍

Maria Johnson67 said:Specialist, look, I live in America and I'm an American! Why would it be weird to run into a Communist in the States? Just come visit the coast sometime.👍

Communists are evil because they follow the Stalinist way, which isn't much different from the Hitlerite way—totally one-sided and zero freedom for anyone who thinks differently!
I'm from the West Coast, and yeah, there are plenty of Socialists down here because it's a system that actually looks out for people, unlike the suffocating grip of Communism.

Maria Johnson67, you must be young if you're grouping the old US era with Communism. Just a heads up, that whole setup was kicked out because leadership realized it looked too much like the USSR or China!

liberals say:
Communists are evil because they follow the Stalinist way, which isn't much different from Hitler's approach—monolithic, one-sided, and zero freedom for anyone who thinks differently!
I'm from California, and there are plenty of Socialists down south because it’s a system that actually looks out for everyone; it isn't nearly as narrow-minded as Communism.

Maria Johnson67, you must be young if you're linking the old America to Communism. Just an observation: that country was the Communist America, and it broke away because Marshall realized how much it resembled the USSR and China!

Marshall led in a specific way, now known as Titoism👍

Anyway, Stalinists ended up in prison camps, and some people just ended up there for no reason at all... I have a friend whose grandfather ended up there just because he couldn't make his stance clear fast enough.👎

Marshall actually ran a pretty great "Communist government" for the benefit of the people... 👍