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Are homophobes just closeted?

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Jonathan Kim4 Jonathan Kim4 MemberOP
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#141 ·
William Gonzalez3 said:
just latent Muslims.
personally, I'm not some latent Muslim, nor do I get nervous when I hear about someone else being one.

though, I think the sheer numbers actually do matter.
that seems to be the crux of the whole issue, if you ask me.
human rights violations happen constantly, regardless of who is doing it.
you have corporations that work their employees to the bone and then refuse to pay them, for instance.
but, I guess I see your point—those groups aren't quite as much of a focus because they aren't targeting gay people simply for being gay.
so, I suppose we really should be talking about homophobes as much as possible.

I’m not following you...

They say every fool has his own little diversion, so I guess that applies to us sitting here debating, too.

We are all perfectly aware of the macroeconomics in the country—the Treasury crises, the scandals involving corrupt politicians' luxury watches, the border disputes in the Gulf, and so on...

But we aren't talking about that here. It isn't relevant to this specific thread, nor does it impact the core issue at hand.
nimblecanyon14 nimblecanyon14 Newcomer
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#142 ·
William Gonzalez3 said:
So, you mean fears are essentially justified or unjustified, rather than being strictly rational or irrational.
That's probably how you should put it.

Yeah, 90% of men are latent homosexuals. You know this because you’ve surveyed every man on the planet, and every single one of them admitted to having a rubber dildo tucked away in a drawer. And I assume 90% of women are latent homosexuals too, simply because 90% of them would say they find female bodies beautiful.

But they are latent homosexuals because they dislike homosexuals, which makes them homophobes. And homophobes are—well, just like the title implies—latent homosexuals.
Or rather, they are homosexuals who are in denial about their own nature.
If ninety percent of men dislike homosexuals, then ninety percent of men are effectively latent homosexuals—meaning they are homosexual, but they deny it even to themselves.
And as for that remaining ten percent, they are also homosexual; it's just that they don't hide it—they openly dress and act like incredibly unattractive women.

And yes, I am personally quite worried about that alarming statistic regarding the 10%. Honestly, I find every man I see to be a target for concern, and I take it very personally when they go off to embrace one another. It’s just... yuck.

It isn't just ten percent; it's much higher.
The issue is these misguided women who have become masculine and lost their femininity—basically, women who no longer want to cook, clean, or do the laundry.
Consequently, men don't really care if they're with a man or a woman; they’d much rather be with someone they can actually watch a football game with than a woman who acts like a man.

P.S. Your boyfriend is gay.

😂 😂 I enjoy cleaning, ironing, and cooking. Does that mean mine isn't gay, and there's still hope for me as an exceptionally feminine woman?

I suspect you're just trying to provoke her...🙂 does this satisfy you?
silverscout15 silverscout15 Member
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#143 ·
Anyway, I see we've found ourselves a "latent" little buzzword here! :P
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#144 ·
silverscout15 said:
So, fears are actually justified or unjustified, rather than rational or irrational.
Just semantics, really.

Oh, obviously! I'm sure every doctor in the country was just sitting around waiting for us to fix their terminology on a random internet forum.

well, they're just closeted because they hate gay people, which makes them homophobes.

I don't like pork. Does that make me a pig? Not metaphorically—that's debatable. But literally?

it's all because of women who've become too masculine and lost their femininity—basically, they don't want to cook, clean, or iron anymore.

Right. Personally, I feel my most feminine when my hands smell like Clorox, my apron is covered in kale smoothie stains, and I've got a fresh burn from the iron on my forearm.

p.s. your boyfriend is gay.


Well, that's a bit awkward! I actually *do* cook, clean, and iron. And I'm definitely not running into the arms of the nerdy butcher next door whose wife, for the record, refuses to touch an iron.

Honestly, I just couldn't care less about what the doctors have to say.
If one fear is justified and the other isn't—well, then that’s exactly how they should be labeled. Once you actually put them into those terms, I guess it becomes pretty obvious which is which.
If you strip all that away and just claim one person is being irrational while the other is being rational—well, then I guess I’m not really following you at all.

I don't really care for pork. Does that make me a pig? Not in the metaphorical sense—that’s probably up for debate—but I suppose you could ask if it makes me one in a strictly literal way.

Well, if we’re following that line of reasoning—and I suppose we are—then that logic essentially turns you into a pig.

I get it. Honestly, I feel like my most feminine self is when my hands smell like Clorox, I’m wearing a kale smoothie stain on my apron like a badge of honor, and there's a fresh iron burn on my forearm—just to round out the look.

No, I think you're just being a bit clumsy then—maybe just a little uncoordinated in this instance.
There’s a certain grace in how you handle everything—just managing to pull it all off without making a total mess of things or getting hurt in the process. I guess you could call it feminine poise, honestly.
I suppose it comes down to the idea that women have this inherent drive to nurture and organize their surroundings—it’s almost like a fundamental instinct. And maybe, in my view, those who choose not to engage with that impulse are actually just running away from themselves.

Well, now I’m just stuck in this bit of a mess. I spend my days cooking, cleaning, and ironing—all the usual stuff. It’s not like I can just run off into the arms of that nerdy butcher down the street whose wife, if you ask me, definitely doesn't do any of the ironing.

Should I really believe you actually have enough time to manage all that—plus find the energy to sit here bickering over trivial nonsense on a forum—while still somehow finding time to get anything else done?
Look, you might want to find someone else to pitch those lines to—because I'm definitely not buying what you're selling.
And honestly—it seems like your husband has been at the butcher shop for quite some time now.
It seems like we're seeing the exact same thing with the masons, too.
silverscout15 silverscout15 Member
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#145 ·
I honestly don't get how people can afford to obsess over homophobes or LGBTQ+ rights when millions of kids in Asia are working for pennies for massive corporations, or people in Africa are literally starving.


🙏

But hey, why don't you explain how you can afford that same luxury? 😁
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#146 ·
Jonathan Kim4 said:I’m not following you...

They say every fool has his own little diversion, so I guess that applies to us sitting here debating, too.

We are all perfectly aware of the macroeconomics in the country—the Treasury crises, the scandals involving corrupt politicians' luxury watches, the border disputes in the Gulf, and so on...

But we aren't talking about that here. It isn't relevant to this specific thread, nor does it impact the core issue at hand.

I just want to say—perhaps I'm being too blunt—but I think you all give those people way more attention than they actually deserve.
And yet, here you are, obsessing over their sexuality—which, I suppose, is exactly what you claim to be against in the first place.
I mean, you're sitting here debating whether or not they are homophobes or anything else of the sort.

To me, that alone is enough to suggest you're no different from them.
Because, honestly, you really are.
William Gonzalez3 William Gonzalez3 Regular
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#147 ·
silverscout15 said:
I honestly don't get how people can afford to obsess over homophobes or LGBTQ+ rights when millions of kids in Asia are working for pennies for massive corporations, or people in Africa are literally starving.


🙏

But hey, why don't you explain how you can afford that same luxury? 😁


though I’m not really talking about them—I'm talking about you guys, which isn't exactly a luxury, I suppose.
besides, I feel like this is more of an obligation for me.

that whole comparison regarding the cave and all that.
Jonathan Kim4 Jonathan Kim4 MemberOP
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#148 ·
William Gonzalez3 said:I just want to say—perhaps I'm being too blunt—but I think you all give those people way more attention than they actually deserve.
And yet, here you are, obsessing over their sexuality—which, I suppose, is exactly what you claim to be against in the first place.
I mean, you're sitting here debating whether or not they are homophobes or anything else of the sort.

To me, that alone is enough to suggest you're no different from them.
Because, honestly, you really are.

Alright, I think I finally see where you're coming from.

In a way, you've got a point. If you look at it through that lens, then we would technically be considered homophobes.

Still, I suppose there's some utility in this thread—we've gone and invented a brand new term in psychology.
silverscout15 silverscout15 Member
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#149 ·
If you leave that out and just say one is irrational while the other is rational, I'm totally lost.

Well, that's way out of my lane!

Yeah, by that logic, it basically makes you a pig.

Perfect! I'm happy being a pig who writes. Better yet, a pig who uses the internet. Boom—just like that! 😛

Should you really believe someone actually has the time for all that, plus arguing over nonsense on a forum, and still find time for anything else?

Plenty of things! You know, women can basically multitask at least four things at once by default. While my lunch is simmering, I’m shaving my legs (staying feminine, get it?), polishing the oak dining table, finishing up some English homework, and so on... I'll have my hair in a clip and be ready to greet my man with a huge smile right when he gets home from the butcher and the construction site! 🤣 🤣
silverscout15 silverscout15 Member
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#150 ·
William Gonzalez3 said:
though I’m not really talking about them—I'm talking about you guys, which isn't exactly a luxury, I suppose.
besides, I feel like this is more of an obligation for me.

that whole comparison regarding the cave and all that.


Jonathan Kim4, we aren't a luxury to him!!!😢 😢 😢 😢
nimblecanyon14 nimblecanyon14 Newcomer
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#151 ·
Why go with oak specifically? Is there some deeper symbolism involved, or just a whim? 🤣
Jonathan Kim4 Jonathan Kim4 MemberOP
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#152 ·
silverscout15 said:Jonathan Kim4, we aren't a luxury to him!!!😢 😢 😢 😢


I’m honored—honored, almost.

If we aren't a luxury to him, then I suppose our basic human rights are officially guaranteed.

What are we talking about here? The right to breathe, to speak, to eat, to have a roof over our heads, access to healthcare... just the essentials.

It seems we've become an indispensable part of his very existence—he simply couldn't function without us.

That must be what they call love...
silverscout15 silverscout15 Member
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#153 ·
nimblecanyon14 said:Why go with oak specifically? Is there some deeper symbolism involved, or just a whim? 🤣

Did you really doubt it?🙂
Well, we've got Freud on the forum, throwing all those terms around—latent this, latent that—so I'll just let him handle the analysis...
silverscout15 silverscout15 Member
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#154 ·
Jonathan Kim4 said:I’m honored—honored, almost.

If we aren't a luxury to him, then I suppose our basic human rights are officially guaranteed.

What are we talking about here? The right to breathe, to speak, to eat, to have a roof over our heads, access to healthcare... just the essentials.

It seems we've become an indispensable part of his very existence—he simply couldn't function without us.

That must be what they call love...

Yippeeeeee! We're practically guaranteed by the Constitution!!!👋

And what a kind of love that is...😍
Jonathan Kim4 Jonathan Kim4 MemberOP
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#155 ·
silverscout15 said:Yippeeeeee! We're practically guaranteed by the Constitution!!!👋

And what a kind of love that is...😍

Back in my day, they taught us that if you're fighting, you actually care.

😬
silverscout15 silverscout15 Member
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#156 ·
Jonathan Kim4 said:Back in my day, they taught us that if you're fighting, you actually care.

😬

Everyone here is just a total sadist!😁
silverscout15 silverscout15 Member
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#157 ·
silverscout15 said:Everyone here is just a total sadist!😁

Uuuuuups!!! Wait, was that a sado-phobic statement?? Does that make me a closeted sadist now?
🤣 🤣
Jonathan Kim4 Jonathan Kim4 MemberOP
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#158 ·
silverscout15 said:Uuuuuups!!! Wait, was that a sado-phobic statement?? Does that make me a closeted sadist now?
🤣 🤣


more like a latent sex machine—or perhaps a latent masochist.

you can always wear that sexy little outfit you got for Christmas.😬
silverscout15 silverscout15 Member
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#159 ·
Jonathan Kim4 said:more like a latent sex machine—or perhaps a latent masochist.

you can always wear that sexy little outfit you got for Christmas.😬


He's just a kid to me now—that was ages ago!😁
Jonathan Kim4 Jonathan Kim4 MemberOP
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#160 ·
silverscout15 said:He's just a kid to me now—that was ages ago!😁

Maybe try being nice to your executioner; perhaps they'll buy it for you.

They might actually love you...🤣

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