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gentlepanther8 said:Honestly, finding anyone with a high IQ on this forum is like searching for a needle in a haystack.
It’s just me and maybe a couple of others.
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Hehe... just sitting here waiting for the inevitable backlash. 😬
Laura Mendoza said:Yet another ridiculous study...😠
Since I have a high IQ, I possess all the typical traits—except for narcissism and everything else that usually comes with it. In my view, those personality quirks depend on the individual rather than being a direct byproduct of intelligence...
brighteagle39 said:What exactly are you trying to convey with this post? Are you arguing that animals are intelligent creatures? That they possess a capacity for reason similar to our own?
Your opening sentence seems completely disconnected from the rest of your argument, mostly because I highly doubt the latter portion is your own original thought. If you are pulling excerpts from a textbook or a specific author, please at least have the courtesy to cite them.
brighteagle39 said:What exactly are you trying to convey with this post? Are you arguing that animals are intelligent creatures? That they possess a capacity for reason similar to our own?
Your opening sentence seems completely disconnected from the rest of your argument, mostly because I highly doubt the latter portion is your own original thought. If you are pulling excerpts from a textbook or a specific author, please at least have the courtesy to cite them.
Paul Jones4 said:What exactly constitutes an IQ?
James Allen6 said:😂
well, you made me laugh again with that part about throwing up 😛
I guess I celebrated too early. The day was actually pleasant, but not for long..... I seem to be so sensitive lately that I can't believe how much things can hurt me on a daily basis.... it feels like stress is just waiting around the corner for me...... and then the depression grabs hold, then the nausea hits, and then that feeling that I'm going to 🤮 well, I just let it all out now 😂 I wonder what else I am supposed to learn from you.....😘
Gerald Rivera60;8454135 said:You know they lack any semblance of reason and don't bother to think at all.
Of course I know, though I find it quite a mystery how you could be unaware, especially considering you're a student—or at least were one—which implies you possess a solid academic background.
Gerald Rivera60 said:It’s a fiction—a hypothetical construct designed to explain and describe certain phenomena.
Don't fall into the trap of flawed reasoning.
Just because something is invented doesn't mean it possesses objective reality. That doesn't mean the "fiction" isn't useful, but we shouldn't grant it more status than it deserves.
IQ was created for practical utility, and that's where it ends.
mistymoose57 said:I suspect they’re veering toward depression just because their eyes are finally open... Not that anyone ever sang about how great it is to be clueless.
Gerald Rivera60 said:It’s a fiction—a hypothetical construct designed to explain and describe certain phenomena.
Don't fall into the trap of flawed reasoning.
Just because something is invented doesn't mean it possesses objective reality. That doesn't mean the "fiction" isn't useful, but we shouldn't grant it more status than it deserves.
IQ was created for practical utility, and that's where it ends.
Keith Lee2 said:I think IQ exists so we don't have to guess if someone's smart—we can just measure it and clear up any doubt.
Honestly, you usually get a sense of how someone's thinking just by talking to them.
But that vibe is always relative, since we're just comparing people to ourselves.
It’s like, if we knew for a fact someone was 6'7", we wouldn't keep trying to pass them off as a point guard
(using basketball terms here, haha)
So, look, tell me your IQ score and I'll know exactly how much weight your arguments carry.
But since bragging about your IQ is seen as being a total narcis,
I guess we'll just keep struggling to understand each other.😬
Keith Lee2 said:I think IQ exists so we don't have to guess if someone's smart—we can just measure it and clear up any doubt.
Honestly, you usually get a sense of how someone's thinking just by talking to them.
But that vibe is always relative, since we're just comparing people to ourselves.
It’s like, if we knew for a fact someone was 6'7", we wouldn't keep trying to pass them off as a point guard
(using basketball terms here, haha)
So, look, tell me your IQ score and I'll know exactly how much weight your arguments carry.
But since bragging about your IQ is seen as being a total narcis,
I guess we'll just keep struggling to understand each other.😬
crimsonhound80 said:Look, there's no need to apologize, but honestly, your argument mostly applies to artists —think painters, musicians, poets—who might be geniuses in their craft but end up completely unhinged due to excessive drinking, partying 😁 or an old-school addiction to opium followed by more modern narcotics. And let's be real, a person doesn't actually have to be highly intelligent just to be a good painter.
Forget all this talk about having seven or eight different types of intelligence; there’s really only one kind that’s actually been scientifically validated.
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To start off, I don't really see how you can equate high intelligence with a high IQ score, since those standardized tests only ever scratch the surface of what a person is actually capable of.
For instance, the psychologist Howard Gardner identified seven distinct types of intelligence:
1. Verbal-linguistic intelligence
2. Musical intelligence
3. Logical-mathematical intelligence
4. Visual-spatial intelligence
5. Bodily-kinesthetic intelligence
6. Intrapersonal intelligence
7. Interpersonal intelligence
A narcis might be linked to intrapersonal intelligence—which involves one's own self-perception—as well as interpersonal intelligence, which governs how we interact with the people around us.
Personally, I feel like I can spot a narcis quite easily, even without knowing their specific IQ, though I often suspect they possess quite high scores.
So, if I were to try and link narcissism to a high IQ (rather than "high intelligence," which is a much broader concept that I suspect excludes narcissism entirely), perhaps it’s a combination of intrapersonal intelligence acting as the "face" and interpersonal intelligence acting as the "mirror." It's as if a certain level of narcissism provides the grip that allows them to hold that mirror steady.
William Gonzalez3 said:Well, if it isn't actually life-threatening, then I guess it doesn't sound all that terrible to me.
Is narcissism even really a bad thing?
And if it is—well, what exactly is it that makes it so problematic?
William Gonzalez3 said:🙄 🙄
'I have a high IQ, and I don't have any flaws; I'm just incredibly smart and perfect, but I'm not narcissistic.'
So, I guess we have a textbook example here of someone who—supposedly—is highly intelligent, yet instead of avoiding narcissism, they've fallen right into its center.
It almost seems like there might be some truth to the idea that highly intelligent people tend to lean toward being a narcis.
Thomas Martinez67 said:says:
To start off, I don't really see how you can equate high intelligence with a high IQ score, since those standardized tests only ever scratch the surface of what a person is actually capable of.
For instance, the psychologist Howard Gardner identified seven distinct types of intelligence:
1. Verbal-linguistic intelligence
2. Musical intelligence
3. Logical-mathematical intelligence
4. Visual-spatial intelligence
5. Bodily-kinesthetic intelligence
6. Intrapersonal intelligence
7. Interpersonal intelligence
A narcis might be linked to intrapersonal intelligence—which involves one's own self-perception—as well as interpersonal intelligence, which governs how we interact with the people around us.
Personally, I feel like I can spot a narcis quite easily, even without knowing their specific IQ, though I often suspect they possess quite high scores.
So, if I were to try and link narcissism to a high IQ (rather than "high intelligence," which is a much broader concept that I suspect excludes narcissism entirely), perhaps it’s a combination of intrapersonal intelligence acting as the "face" and interpersonal intelligence acting as the "mirror." It's as if a certain level of narcissism provides the grip that allows them to hold that mirror steady.
8 - The intelligence of nonsense
9 - The intelligence of waste
There was a time when people thought all of this fell under one umbrella called "excretory intelligence," but later on, dr. Kelly realized that we are actually looking at two fundamentally different types of intelligence.
mistymoose57 said:I suspect they’re veering toward depression just because their eyes are finally open... Not that anyone ever sang about how great it is to be clueless.
