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Participants Richard Murphy6Nancy Thompson3Noah Sanchez7wearyowl29Richard Carter4mistybisonelectricpanther4Nicholas Peterson39steeleagle13slyorca62Sean Martinez4bluemason3ambereagle642Jerry CruzNoah King2Jamie Petersonbluebison70driftingraven122Casey Jackson17Hannah Thompson2Emily RuizPeter Flores67Acopperseal8 …
Casey Jackson17 Casey Jackson17 Member
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#101 ·
wearyowl29 said:Sin is basically just learning through trial and error. It’s all action and reaction! I mean, can you even make any progress without learning things the hard way?

Look, it’s not just about the act itself being a "sin," it’s about the fallout—the actual consequences you have to live with afterward. We're talking physical, mental, or spiritual wreckage. It’s not a sin just because some rulebook or legal code says so; it’s a sin because it’s fundamentally destructive to a person. If someone doesn't believe in God, they usually avoid certain sins simply because they fear the tangible fallout. Like, you don't drive like a maniac and ignore every traffic law on the highway because you don't want to wreck your car, wreck yourself, or end up dead. Same goes for the psychological toll. You see cases where women deal with massive guilt after an abortion, leading to PTSD that haunts them for the rest of their lives. Then there are the spiritual consequences, but I won't get into those since most people on this forum think that stuff is just nonsense. To understand that, you need faith in God, and if you look at the history of the Church, the spiritual repercussions of sin are undeniable facts. Usually, you deal with that through prayer and fasting—or in extreme cases, exorcism.

(25) When Jesus saw the crowd gathering, he rebuked the impure spirit:
"I command you, mute and deaf spirit, come out of him and never enter him again!" (26) The evil spirit shrieked, convulsed the boy violently, and left him. The boy fell as if dead, and many thought he had passed away. (27) But Jesus took him by the hand and helped him up, and he stood. (28) When Jesus went inside the house, his disciples asked him privately, "Why couldn't we drive it out?" (29) He replied, "This kind can come out only by prayer." (Mark 9:25-29)
A Anonymous Veteran
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#102 ·
Come on, man, quit being such a wimp.
Hannah Thompson2 Hannah Thompson2 Active Member
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#103 ·
Sean Martinez4 said:The reason people get screwed over by thinking it's "all small" or strictly Bible-only is because of groups like the Native Americans, 😍 the Cathars, 😍 and the Templars. 😍 👍
And I guess everyone else who isn't limited by their own mind or spirit will end up in the same boat. 😍
Like, if you asked Native Americans if they believed in God and Christ his son,
they'd say they worship the spirit that's present in everything. We all know how that turned out. 😂😂😂
What if I said the first commandment was "love your daughter who is the Holy Spirit"? Would that really be such a huge deal?
Am I wrong then? Am I headed to hell just for being an idiot? 😛 🤣

you're just talking nonsense
Sean Martinez4 said:The reason people get screwed over by thinking it's "all small" or strictly Bible-only is because of groups like the Native Americans, 😍 the Cathars, 😍 and the Templars. 😍 👍
And I guess everyone else who isn't limited by their own mind or spirit will end up in the same boat. 😍
Like, if you asked Native Americans if they believed in God and Christ his son,
they'd say they worship the spirit that's present in everything. We all know how that turned out. 😂😂😂
What if I said the first commandment was "love your daughter who is the Holy Spirit"? Would that really be such a huge deal?
Am I wrong then? Am I headed to hell just for being an idiot? 😛 🤣

what makes you say that?
Sean Martinez4 said:The reason people get screwed over by thinking it's "all small" or strictly Bible-only is because of groups like the Native Americans, 😍 the Cathars, 😍 and the Templars. 😍 👍
And I guess everyone else who isn't limited by their own mind or spirit will end up in the same boat. 😍
Like, if you asked Native Americans if they believed in God and Christ his son,
they'd say they worship the spirit that's present in everything. We all know how that turned out. 😂😂😂
What if I said the first commandment was "love your daughter who is the Holy Spirit"? Would that really be such a huge deal?
Am I wrong then? Am I headed to hell just for being an idiot? 😛 🤣

those are human sins, and humans are the ones responsible for them.
You can't blame the New Testament for that—have you even actually read it?
Sean Martinez4 said:The reason people get screwed over by thinking it's "all small" or strictly Bible-only is because of groups like the Native Americans, 😍 the Cathars, 😍 and the Templars. 😍 👍
And I guess everyone else who isn't limited by their own mind or spirit will end up in the same boat. 😍
Like, if you asked Native Americans if they believed in God and Christ his son,
they'd say they worship the spirit that's present in everything. We all know how that turned out. 😂😂😂
What if I said the first commandment was "love your daughter who is the Holy Spirit"? Would that really be such a huge deal?
Am I wrong then? Am I headed to hell just for being an idiot? 😛 🤣

Look, you aren't God, so you don't get to hand out commandments like that. And I'm not sure what part of that commandment is confusing to you? God is offering ways to find Him—so you can go see for yourself.
Sean Martinez4 said:The reason people get screwed over by thinking it's "all small" or strictly Bible-only is because of groups like the Native Americans, 😍 the Cathars, 😍 and the Templars. 😍 👍
And I guess everyone else who isn't limited by their own mind or spirit will end up in the same boat. 😍
Like, if you asked Native Americans if they believed in God and Christ his son,
they'd say they worship the spirit that's present in everything. We all know how that turned out. 😂😂😂
What if I said the first commandment was "love your daughter who is the Holy Spirit"? Would that really be such a huge deal?
Am I wrong then? Am I headed to hell just for being an idiot? 😛 🤣

Look, there isn't a special hell for geniuses and a separate one for idiots—there's just hell.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#104 ·
I'm not trying to butt in here, but as far as I can tell, Sean Martinez4 hasn't actually read a single book in his life.
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#105 ·
So, how many accounts have you had banned so far?
Maybe 10 up to this point? _😍
Hey, moderator! 😍
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#106 ·
Hannah Thompson2 said:you're just talking nonsense

what makes you say that?

those are human sins, and humans are the ones responsible for them.
You can't blame the New Testament for that—have you even actually read it?

Look, you aren't God, so you don't get to hand out commandments like that. And I'm not sure what part of that commandment is confusing to you? God is offering ways to find Him—so you can go see for yourself.

Look, there isn't a special hell for geniuses and a separate one for idiots—there's just hell.

really? 😍 I mean, I'm saying sins aren't the main point here. But hey, good on you for trying to follow them. 😬 🤣 🤣 👍
But I guess God doesn't just live inside the Bible. 😬 👍 🤣 🤣
A Anonymous Veteran
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#107 ·
Sean Martinez4 said:So, how many accounts have you had banned so far?
Maybe 10 up to this point? _😍
Hey, moderator! 😍

Psst! They're asleep! :whispers:
A Anonymous Veteran
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#108 ·
Sean Martinez4 said:really? 😍 I mean, I'm saying sins aren't the main point here. But hey, good on you for trying to follow them. 😬 🤣 🤣 👍
But I guess God doesn't just live inside the Bible. 😬 👍 🤣 🤣

Oh, please. Give me a break. None of your fabrications hold any weight anywhere either.
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#109 ·
What a total geek. 😍🤣🤣
wearyowl29 wearyowl29 Regular
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#110 ·
Casey Jackson17 said:Look, it’s not just about the act itself being a "sin," it’s about the fallout—the actual consequences you have to live with afterward. We're talking physical, mental, or spiritual wreckage. It’s not a sin just because some rulebook or legal code says so; it’s a sin because it’s fundamentally destructive to a person. If someone doesn't believe in God, they usually avoid certain sins simply because they fear the tangible fallout. Like, you don't drive like a maniac and ignore every traffic law on the highway because you don't want to wreck your car, wreck yourself, or end up dead. Same goes for the psychological toll. You see cases where women deal with massive guilt after an abortion, leading to PTSD that haunts them for the rest of their lives. Then there are the spiritual consequences, but I won't get into those since most people on this forum think that stuff is just nonsense. To understand that, you need faith in God, and if you look at the history of the Church, the spiritual repercussions of sin are undeniable facts. Usually, you deal with that through prayer and fasting—or in extreme cases, exorcism.

(25) When Jesus saw the crowd gathering, he rebuked the impure spirit:
"I command you, mute and deaf spirit, come out of him and never enter him again!" (26) The evil spirit shrieked, convulsed the boy violently, and left him. The boy fell as if dead, and many thought he had passed away. (27) But Jesus took him by the hand and helped him up, and he stood. (28) When Jesus went inside the house, his disciples asked him privately, "Why couldn't we drive it out?" (29) He replied, "This kind can come out only by prayer." (Mark 9:25-29)

Believing in God doesn't mean you get a free pass from sin. Those consequences? They're life lessons you actually have to learn. You can't just skip them by playing a Joker card featuring Yahweh.
Sean Martinez4 Sean Martinez4 Active Member
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#111 ·
wearyowl29 said:Believing in God doesn't mean you get a free pass from sin. Those consequences? They're life lessons you actually have to learn. You can't just skip them by playing a Joker card featuring Yahweh.

Or rather: a Joker card showing Jesus. 😬 🤣 🤣 🤣
But let's get back to that "Resurrection in spirit" thing—the kind the Catholic Church forbids in any form through their ten main propaganda hubs. 👍
And definitely not that "Resurrection in the flesh" stuff you Satanists seem to love so much. 👍

Here is how they define Resurrection through sin: "Sinning is just being human, so go ahead, brothers! Go out, multiply, and totally wreck the climate, the plants, and the animals. Just don't bother with holistic consciousness if you can help it! Forgiveness is divine! And it simply, don't care!" 😍 🙂 🙂

Honestly, I think Catholics are just hypocrites who don't actually carry the Resurrection within themselves.
Hannah Thompson2 Hannah Thompson2 Active Member
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#112 ·
Sean Martinez4 said:really? 😍 I mean, I'm saying sins aren't the main point here. But hey, good on you for trying to follow them. 😬 🤣 🤣 👍
But I guess God doesn't just live inside the Bible. 😬 👍 🤣 🤣

Since your replies aren't making any sense and aren't getting us anywhere, I'm stepping out of this debate with you—from here on out, I'll just be observing what you have to say.
Casey Jackson17 Casey Jackson17 Member
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#113 ·
wearyowl29 said:Believing in God doesn't mean you get a free pass from sin. Those consequences? They're life lessons you actually have to learn. You can't just skip them by playing a Joker card featuring Yahweh.

I never even said that (😕 )
Richard Murphy6 Richard Murphy6 Active MemberOP
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#114 ·
Sean Martinez4 said:Or rather: a Joker card showing Jesus. 😬 🤣 🤣 🤣
But let's get back to that "Resurrection in spirit" thing—the kind the Catholic Church forbids in any form through their ten main propaganda hubs. 👍
And definitely not that "Resurrection in the flesh" stuff you Satanists seem to love so much. 👍

Here is how they define Resurrection through sin: "Sinning is just being human, so go ahead, brothers! Go out, multiply, and totally wreck the climate, the plants, and the animals. Just don't bother with holistic consciousness if you can help it! Forgiveness is divine! And it simply, don't care!" 😍 🙂 🙂

Honestly, I think Catholics are just hypocrites who don't actually carry the Resurrection within themselves.

Hehe, this post of yours is pretty enlightening (who would've thought 😍)! First off, we need to make some brand new cards. It’s just like Nietzsche said in *Zarathustra*: "Discard the old decks, bring out the new ones, and deal again!!" On this specific card, it would be God, but not Yahweh—not the Father or the Son, but the real, true God 😍, right, buddy 👍?
Second, I actually started this thread asking about the Resurrection in the flesh, not "in the Spirit." Though, let's be honest, whenever we talk about spirituality, it's basically dualism, which is why we all end up putting "spirituality" in quotation marks 😍.
Third, I'm totally lost on that part about the flora and fauna, man
. >Fourth, do you seriously believe that "Catholic jerks" don't have the resurrection within them? I mean, Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, Buddhists, Hindus, and Animist jerks alike... they're all the same 😲. 😛
Fifth, I have no idea why the multi-quote option isn't working for me 😕. My post would look way cleaner if it did
.
Sophia Parker8 Sophia Parker8 Member
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#115 ·
Richard Murphy6 said:Hehe, this post of yours is pretty enlightening (who would've thought 😍)! First off, we need to make some brand new cards. It’s just like Nietzsche said in *Zarathustra*: "Discard the old decks, bring out the new ones, and deal again!!" On this specific card, it would be God, but not Yahweh—not the Father or the Son, but the real, true God 😍, right, buddy 👍?
Second, I actually started this thread asking about the Resurrection in the flesh, not "in the Spirit." Though, let's be honest, whenever we talk about spirituality, it's basically dualism, which is why we all end up putting "spirituality" in quotation marks 😍.
Third, I'm totally lost on that part about the flora and fauna, man
. >Fourth, do you seriously believe that "Catholic jerks" don't have the resurrection within them? I mean, Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants, Buddhists, Hindus, and Animist jerks alike... they're all the same 😲. 😛
Fifth, I have no idea why the multi-quote option isn't working for me 😕. My post would look way cleaner if it did
.

I’m not sure how anything regarding Catholic nonsense could possibly be instructive for you. Is hating Catholics your chosen spiritual path?
steeleagle13 steeleagle13 Active Member
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#116 ·
Hannah Thompson2 said:you're just talking nonsense

what makes you say that?

those are human sins, and humans are the ones responsible for them.
You can't blame the New Testament for that—have you even actually read it?

Look, you aren't God, so you don't get to hand out commandments like that. And I'm not sure what part of that commandment is confusing to you? God is offering ways to find Him—so you can go see for yourself.

Look, there isn't a special hell for geniuses and a separate one for idiots—there's just hell.

I AM God☕

😁
driftingraven122 driftingraven122 Active Member
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#117 ·
I suppose we’re all being quite imaginative 😁

It probably would have been better if you'd kept that remark to the thread regarding: massive EGO 😬
Hannah Thompson2 Hannah Thompson2 Active Member
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joined Jul 2005
#118 ·
steeleagle13 said:I AM God☕

😁

Don't you feel even a little bit of shame typing stuff like that? You clearly know how insulting this is to believers, and yet
you just have to go out of your way to provoke people—it's like you have zero empathy for anyone else.
Sophia Parker8 Sophia Parker8 Member
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joined Jun 2007
#119 ·
The way I interpreted it was this:

God is the one who truly IS.
I am (am) God.
I am God, the God who carries the name I AM.
driftingraven122 driftingraven122 Active Member
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#120 ·
Hannah Thompson2 said:Don't you feel even a little bit of shame typing stuff like that? You clearly know how insulting this is to believers, and yet
you just have to go out of your way to provoke people—it's like you have zero empathy for anyone else.

Give me a break... if you religious folks are supposedly such spiritual masters, how can you be so easily rattled by some random internet troll who’ll probably disappear by tomorrow? 😬

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