Are vegetarians actually smarter?

Keith Lee2 said:So, what you're actually saying is—I won't die from natural causes unless I somehow contribute to someone else's death first.

Wait, what?
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Thomas Stewart97 said:It isn't about animal love—it’s that you're disconnected from reality. You aren't looking closely enough, or perhaps your own indoctrination is clouding your vision. I suggest revisiting that old thread regarding the psychological makeup of slaughterhouse workers; it might provide some much-needed clarity.

A butcher or anyone working in meat processing can value livestock just as much as you value your pet—or at least similarly (minus the emotional attachment, which, let's be honest, isn't actually "love"), yet they still process them for food.

If there is an emotional bond, sure, it becomes harder—but they still care, and that is simply the reality of it.

Most people making arguments like yours act as if they just landed on Mars—that is always how it looks when someone is deeply indoctrinated; it resembles pure fantasy when what they say is so clearly detached from the world we live in.

There is no hypocrisy here—just a healthy understanding that, at our current stage of development, animals serve as food for humanity, and that's it. It's that simple. We aren't talking about cruelty or anything of the sort. No one supports animal abuse—though, frankly, many people claim to care while being just as indifferent to human suffering as long as they are comfortable. To those who are truly indifferent, it's all the same.

If we weren't concerned, none of this would exist.

But the path you are choosing—by attacking everyone who eats meat—is clearly the wrong way to go for any serious thinker or person who hasn't been brainwashed.

Are you being serious?😕
A butcher loves animals?????????????🤣

Those who consume meat are responsible for the brutal slaughter of animals and unspeakable suffering.
If you equate the slaughter, the blood, the cries, the agony, the fear, and the sense of betrayal with love, then you are either acting out of pure spite or you have no idea what you are talking about—because your argument lacks any semblance of common sense.

Thomas Stewart97 said:I didn't say I enjoy the slaughter and the suffering, rather that you contribute to it.

There isn't a single valid argument out there for someone who doesn't believe animals have souls—which seems to be where you're at.

Fair enough, though I was actually thinking about what you mentioned regarding how we can eat meat without feeling guilty. I mean, why should I feel bad if it's just part of being human... especially since some people absolutely need it to survive?

Look, if your logic holds up, then it applies to me too—regardless of what I personally believe.

Thomas Stewart97 said:Are you actually being serious right now?😕
A meat-eater claiming to love animals?????????🤣

People who eat meat are essentially responsible for the brutal slaughter of animals and unspeakable suffering.
If you honestly think that slaughtering, the mess of blood, the painful cries, the sheer terror, and that deep sense of betrayal can be equated to love, then you’re either being incredibly abrasive—maybe even a bit unstable—or you just have no clue what you're talking about, because this post of yours completely lacks common sense.

What you're trying to link here just doesn't make any sense at all! To put it simply: just because someone loves dogs and cats doesn't mean they have to love cows, too...

OT: Why don't you go out to the Serengeti and preach to the lions? Why don't they just stick to eating cabbage instead of gazelles?

Disperadun said:Fair enough—I was actually thinking about what you mentioned regarding eating meat without the guilt. Why should I feel guilty if it's just part of being human... especially since some people absolutely need it to function?

Look, if your logic holds up, then it applies to me too—regardless of my personal views.

If you aren't feeling any guilt, then you don't have a problem—at least on the surface—but remember, karma keeps a very detailed ledger.🙂

Disperadun said:The connections you're making just don't hold water—they aren't related at all. To paraphrase: just because someone loves dogs and cats doesn't mean they have to love cows...

OT: Why don't you go preach to the lions? Why don't they eat cabbage instead of gazelles?

It's absolutely related—someone who slaughters an animal clearly doesn't truly love it.
As far as I'm concerned, what you choose to eat is your business.

Thomas Stewart97 said:If you aren't losing sleep over it, then you don't have a problem—at least on the surface—but hey, karma keeps a pretty detailed ledger.🙂

Man, I’m not even going to get into a debate with you about all that karma stuff—it’s just not really my thing, you know?

But honestly, I feel like that whole study went down the wrong path from the jump. If I were running the show, I’d have looked at whether highly sensitive people are actually more intelligent on average, and then gone from there to see if there was any actual link to vegetarianism.

And seriously, if someone tries to lecture me about "how can you eat carcasses?" while I'm sitting here enjoying some fried chicken...
believe me, I'd rather shove a drumstick down their throat than spend the rest of my life living on soy milk and kale!

Thomas Stewart97 said:it matters because someone who slaughters an animal doesn't truly love that animal.
Personally, I couldn't care less what you put on your plate.

Look, it's not like anyone’s out there swinging an axe at a cat or a dog—a dog isn't a cat, and it certainly isn't a cow. They're all different, and at the end of the day, it's my call whether I want to love them or not.

The whole vegetarian thing... I think people just take that childhood love for stuffed animals
which are usually little critters (back when we were kids), and they project it onto actual living creatures
(now that they're adults).
Some folks do the exact same thing with their cars, I guess.
Me? Even though I'm "grown up," I still let myself be soft for my plushies.

Keith Lee2 said:The issue with vegetarianism—if you ask me—is that people take that childhood affection
for stuffed animals (mostly critters) and project it onto actual living creatures
now that they’re adults.
Some folks do the exact same thing with their vintage cars.
As for me—despite being fully "grown up"—I still hold onto my love for plushies.

🙂

I know a handful of Vegans who are incredibly sharp and intelligent, yet they seem to struggle with emotional depth. Then there’s one guy who is just an exceptionally kind, warm soul. Interestingly, they’re all men.
Could that lack of emotional nuance be linked to their diet?

I know some guys😍 who are vegetarians, but they all seem to be emotionally stunted—well, except for one. So, I guess about 25% of them aren't struggling in that department.
Does anyone think there might be a connection there?

briskgull27 said:I know a few vegetarians who are incredibly sharp—brilliant, really—but they seem emotionally stunted. Then there's one guy who is just exceptionally kind and warm. All of them are men.
Could that emotional dullness actually be linked to diet?

You're spot on... it definitely has to do with nutrition.
That emotional numbness is tied to the preference for eating slaughtered animals—because people who are emotionally dull simply don't care that they're consuming an animal that died in agony. They lack empathy—it’s as simple as that.

outoftheblue said:I know a few men.😍 Most vegetarians are emotionally stunted—well, except for one group. Roughly 25% of them actually seem to have their emotions fully intact.
Is there any connection there?

I know certain people who post such absolute nonsense—it’s enough to make you think they’re genuinely lacking in the mental department.🙂

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Decide on your path—decide on life. Pick a career, settle into a profession, build a family, embrace the mundane comforts of washing machines and CDs—it’s all part of the deal. It's all just... well, it's a performance. Choose your future. Choose life.

The correct spelling is career. Career paths are rarely linear—they're more like winding mountain roads. You start with a clear map, only to find a detour or a dead end right when you think you've arrived. It’s frustrating, sure—but those detours often lead to much better views. Don't get too hung up on the "standard" trajectory; sometimes the most rewarding moves happen when you least expect them.

Thomas Stewart97 said:Are you actually being serious right now?😕
The butcher claims to love animals??????????🤣

People who consume meat—they are responsible for the brutal slaughter of animals and unspeakable suffering.
If you equate the slaughtering, the blood, the painful cries, the unspeakable suffering, the fear, and that sense of betrayal with love, then—I guess—you are either incredibly callous and lacking empathy, or you just don't know what you're talking about... because your post honestly lacks any sense of common sense.

It’s just their job,😕
you know—some people are forced to take whatever work comes their way. It is easy for you to sit there behind a keyboard, but—well—not everyone is that lucky. Dammit, if someone has to choose between working at a slaughterhouse and watching their kids starve, most people will become butchers without a second thought. Still, I suppose human life is more valuable than animal life. 🙂

briskgull27 said:I know a couple of vegans who are incredibly sharp, but emotionally stunted. Then there's one guy who is just genuinely kind and warm. All of them are men.
Could that emotional numbness actually be tied to their diet?

The reason those two vegans aren't showing any emotion when you're around probably has everything to do with how they met you. As for that one warm, pleasant guy? He likely hasn't been out on the dating scene in quite some time.

Rachel Martinez11 said:Look, I love the taste of meat—I really do. But I don't eat it, mostly because my conscience feels better that way. It’s an analogy, I guess—I recognize there are other attractive women out there besides my wife, and I'm sure I'd enjoy their company, too. But I avoid those kinds of encounters because I feel more at peace knowing I'm not cheating. She would suffer immensely if I did, and I simply don't want her to hurt. In the same vein, I don't want animals to suffer. Though, I suppose I wouldn't mind if everyone who lacks empathy for others felt that pain themselves—it might actually help them understand the issue better.

There is one flaw in that logic—I am not looking to form a deep emotional bond with a pig; I just want to eat it and move on.😕

wearygardener13 said:that's just the job at hand 😕
—you know, some people don't have the luxury of choice. It’s easy to sit behind a keyboard and judge, but not everyone is that lucky. Honestly—if you have to choose between working in a slaughterhouse and watching your kids go hungry, most people will take the meatpacking job without a second thought. At the end of the day, human life holds more value than animal life. 🙂

I disagree🙂

wearygardener13 said:There’s a slight flaw in that analogy—I’m not looking for some deep emotional bond with a pig; I just want to eat it and move on with my life.😕

Well, that sounds like a great way to build up some karma.🙂
Karma always collects its debts eventually.🙂

sad but true said:human life is inherently more valuable than animal life 🙂

It’s the same old loop, isn't it? This argument falls apart immediately because it relies on such sweeping generalizations. If we're being honest—objectively or otherwise—the life of even the dimmest dog carries more weight than some parasite like George Bush. Honestly, I’d argue a single cockroach holds more value than 30% of the people sitting in the US Congress.