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Kevin Morris12 Kevin Morris12 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Hey there...

I’m looking into getting a Visa Intel debit card, but I have a few questions about the process. Is it even possible to get one if I don't have a steady job? I'm currently a student. Also, does the bank charge any kind of monthly maintenance fee, and if so, how much should I expect to pay?😕
Susan James42 Susan James42 Active Member
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#2 ·
Just deposit your foreign currency into a savings account at the bank and voilà! You’ll end up with more Intel...
Kevin Morris12 Kevin Morris12 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
Is a foreign currency account the same thing as a checking account?

Anyway, I went into JPMorgan Chase yesterday to open a checking account, and I should have my Visa card in about ten days. The teller was honestly more confused than I was... I asked her if it was a Visa Electron, and she just kind of shrugged and said, "I'm not sure..." She even asked a colleague, who seemed to have no clue either! "It's just a Visa card you can use at stores..." she eventually told me. So, yeah, I'm really hoping it turns out to be a Visa Electron...

Now, does anyone here know how to actually get a VMware card or an internet-specific Visa for online shopping? Some European banks offer them quite easily—even banks over in Mexico (link) charge only about $20 for one—but it feels like no bank here in America has ever even heard of such a thing. Does anyone know of a foreign bank that would issue a VMware card to a US citizen online?
Keith Phillips3 Keith Phillips3 Member
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joined Aug 2003
#4 ·
Kevin Morris12 said:Does a foreign currency account equal a checking account?

Anyway, I went into JPMorgan Chase yesterday to set up a checking account. I should have my Visa debit card in about ten days, but honestly, the teller was more confused than I was. When I asked if it was an Intel card, she just kind of stammered, "Well, I'm not sure..." then turned to a colleague who was even less helpful. Eventually, she just settled on, "It's a Visa card you can use at stores..." So, basically, I'm just crossing my fingers that it's an Intel card.

At the Federal Reserve, when they link things to a checking account, they typically offer either an Intel card or a Maestro card.
The only real distinction is that with an Intel card, you aren't required to enter a PIN during a transaction.
That's really all there is to it.
Susan James42 Susan James42 Active Member
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joined Sep 2005
#5 ·
Kevin Morris12 said:is a foreign currency account just a checking account?

Not quite. A foreign currency account is its own specific thing. It holds foreign denominations. While it functions similarly to a standard checking account in terms of how you use it, it’s specifically designed to hold non-USD currencies...

Kevin Morris12 said:Does anyone know how I can get an entity or a Visa debit card for making online purchases?

Why are you getting hung up on the entity? You should have plenty of other cards that work fine for online shopping. If you already have a debit or charge card from American Express, you might consider looking into Blue from American Express—it usually only carries a small additional fee.
John Thomas2 John Thomas2 Active Member
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#6 ·
Kevin Morris12 said:I asked if it was a Visa debit card. "Uh, I don't know..." she said. Then she asked some coworker, who knew even less. "It's just a Visa card you can use at stores..." basically. Anyway, I'm really hoping it's a Visa debit card...

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Jesus, getting an answer like that at a bank? 😲 😲 😲

I mean, what else am I supposed to do with the card? Dig a hole in my backyard?

So much for "professional" staff.... 🤮
Kevin Morris12 Kevin Morris12 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
Keith Phillips3 said:At the Federal Reserve, regarding your checking account, they usually offer you an Intel or a Maestro card.
The main difference is that with the Intel card, you don't need to enter a PIN for every single purchase.
That's really all there is to it.

Honestly, I suspect my "standard Visa card" (as they call it over at JPMorgan Chase) is actually just an Intel card, and my wife was simply getting a bit mixed up... 😎
Kevin Morris12 Kevin Morris12 Active MemberOP
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#8 ·
Susan James42 said:So, what exactly tripped you up while you were out there? Do you have any other cards handy that are specifically set up for online shopping? If you already have a Blue from American Express or even a charge card, wouldn't it be worth the small extra fee just to have that extra layer of security and convenience?


zape-O 😉

I hit a bit of a snag with this virtual Visa card. In most functional economies, you don't actually need to be employed just to get one of these, right? You should be able to simply open a checking account at a bank, deposit maybe twenty bucks, and have a virtual Visa card ready to go immediately. Unfortunately, that kind of flexibility just doesn't exist here. It's frustrating when the system makes things unnecessarily complicated, isn't it?

Moving forward, my preference would be to use either Blue from American Express, a Mastercard, or even just some basic prepaid card—honestly, anything that lets me make online purchases without a hitch. But there’s a catch: those are all credit cards, and since I'm currently a student and unemployed, getting approved for one is pretty much out of the question. Wouldn't it be ideal if an American bank offered a specific type of Visa debit card designed exclusively for secure online shopping? It would be such a game-changer if any legal adult living in the States could simply walk in and pick one up, regardless of their employment status. Wouldn't that solve so many headaches for students like me?

Does anyone know of a reliable Visa debit card I could grab here in the States that doesn't require me to be employed? If you have any recommendations, please let me know! 😁
Keith Doyle18 Keith Doyle18 Member
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#9 ·
Kevin Morris12 said:I was looking into getting an entity Visa debit card because—in most developed nations—you don't actually need to be employed to get one; you just open a checking account at a bank, drop in $20, and they issue you an entity Visa debit card.

But what exactly is backing that card besides those initial twenty bucks? Does that mean your spending limit is capped at that tiny amount too? It strikes me as incredibly odd that a bank would issue any kind of credit card without substantial collateral—you know, unless their idea of "security" is just a measly $20.

Secondly—an Intel Visa debit card issued here in America won't even work for online shopping.

Thirdly—you can obtain a Visa Classic or a Visa revolving card (which *can* be used for online transactions) regardless of your employment status. You simply need to open a checking or savings account—though keep in mind that some banks bundle all your savings under a single account number, where the funds are just categorized by currency, like USD or EUR. To open the account, all you really need is a state ID; now, to qualify for a credit card, some banks might want to see a few months of history in that account, but generally, if you don't have a steady paycheck, they’ll just ask for collateral. Usually, this takes the form of a Certificate of Deposit (CD) that you don't touch—the bank uses that deposit to set your spending limit (for example, you park $1,000 in there, and that becomes your maximum credit line).
Terry Ramos60 Terry Ramos60 Active Member
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#10 ·
Honestly, I am quite perplexed as to why you have become so fixated on using a Microsoft card when it is fundamentally incapable of handling online transactions! If your primary goal is to make purchases over the internet, what possible utility could a Microsoft card offer you in that scenario?
Kevin Morris12 Kevin Morris12 Active MemberOP
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#11 ·
Keith Doyle18 said:But what exactly is your collateral besides those 20 bucks? Does that mean your total spending limit on the card is that low too? Honestly, it seems incredibly strange to me that a bank would issue any kind of credit card without real security—especially if the "security" is only worth 20 dollars.

You pay 20 dollars to get the card issued (a Visa Virtuon), and along with it, you get a checking account where you deposit exactly what you intend to spend online. If there’s no money in the account, there’s no purchase. Period. The card is designed exclusively for online transactions. It really doesn't get any simpler than that. You can find more details here

Keith Doyle18 said:Second—you can't use a Microsoft card from America for online payments.

I know I can't use it for that; I need a Microsoft card for an entirely different reason. But here's the thing: alongside this Microsoft card I just picked up the other day, I want a second card specifically so I CAN make online purchases. There is a debit card out there identical to a Microsoft card, but it's built specifically for web shopping called a Visa Virtuon. Since our local banks don't offer this, I was wondering if anyone knows of a foreign bank that would be willing to open a checking account and issue a Visa Virtuon to a foreigner like me...

Keith Doyle18 said:Thirdly—you can get a Visa Classic or a Visa Revolving card (the ones that actually work online) even if you aren't employed. You just need to open a checking or savings account (in some banks, all your funds are under one account number, just categorized by currency like USD or EUR...). To open the account, you'll need a state ID, but to get the actual credit card, some banks require a few months of history. Most will ask for collateral if you don't have a steady paycheck; usually, that means a fixed deposit that you don't touch, which the bank uses to set your spending limit (for example, you deposit 1,000 dollars, and that becomes your maximum limit).

As far as I know, you can't! You generally need a steady income for a bank to approve a credit card. My wife actually told me the same thing when we spoke at JPMorgan Chase—there's absolutely no way for me to get a credit card.

Which leaves me wondering—how am I supposed to pay for anything online? It doesn't even have to be a Visa card; I just need something that works for online payments that a student like me can actually obtain. 😕
Keith Doyle18 Keith Doyle18 Member
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#12 ·
Kevin Morris12 said:From what I understand—you just can't! You need a steady stream of income for a bank to even consider approving a credit card. My wife actually told me the same thing when we spoke at JPMorgan Chase—there's absolutely zero chance of me getting one.

Look, would you mind sending me a private message? Tell me which JPMorgan Chase branch gave you that answer, because—honestly—your wife might have steered you wrong there!

The thing is, it’s actually quite simple: you just need to put down a deposit. You have to make it clear to them that you want the
card secured by that deposit rather than relying on a monthly paycheck (you might have missed that detail during the conversation).

Based on that collateral, JPMorgan Chase will typically approve a card with a spending limit—I believe it's roughly 80% of whatever funds you've deposited.
nimblenomad41 nimblenomad41 Newcomer
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#13 ·
Alright, let me vent about my experience from about a year back.
I was thinking about ordering some stuff online—same thing, really—and I’m using that student account over at JPMorgan Chase. It comes with a checking account, a foreign currency account, and that legendary Visa Electron card... which is a total joke because you can't actually use it for anything online. Seriously, look at this:
http://www.bensonsworld.co.uk/
See that little icon in the bottom left? It says Visa Electron, but trust me, that doesn't apply to our version of the card here in the States (tried it, failed miserably) :-(
People over in other places have access to Virtuon or whatever, but we don't have anything even remotely similar... it's frustrating :-(

If you actually want to buy things on the internet, you basically need to have a real income to qualify for any decent cards that actually work.
Lisa Moore7 Lisa Moore7 Member
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#14 ·
I got a Microsoft card when I opened my account at Chase. Honestly, I don't see any real advantage to using that over a Maestro card.
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
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#15 ·
Look, people, you seriously need to wrap your heads around this: Visa is a brand. It’s a name. A bank doesn't just slap a logo like Visa, Mastercard, or anything else on a card for fun—they pay actual fees for that privilege.

And let's get one thing straight: not all Visa cards are created equal. And I'm not talking about how they look, either. I'm talking about what they actually *do*—whether it's a debit, revolving, credit, or charge card.
Every single bank has its own specific "flavor" of card, along with its own set of rules for who can actually get one. In theory, anyone can walk into a Chase or a Wells Fargo, open a basic checking account, and walk out with a debit card. Simple enough.
But if you're looking for a credit card, a revolving line of credit, or a charge card—you know, the ones where you get a grace period or pay back a percentage of the balance—you don't just get those because you asked nicely. You have to meet the bank's requirements. We're talking credit scores, deposits, co-signers, even collateral like a house. That is perfectly normal! A bank isn't a charity; they need some kind of insurance so that if someone stops paying their bills, they aren't just left holding an empty bag. They need a way to recover their money.

If you're a college student, for instance, you don't exactly have a massive income to show a bank. So, in that case, you just have your parents apply for an authorized user card for you.
Kevin Morris12 Kevin Morris12 Active MemberOP
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#16 ·
Tinkili said:Basically, you just need to put down a deposit and make it clear that you want the card
based on that deposit rather than your monthly income. (Maybe you forgot to mention that part).

But what’s the minimum amount required for that deposit? When I first started, I just put $1 $0.00 into that checking—or whatever they call a "savings account"—into my account... I highly doubt that's going to cut it.

$13That's actually the minimum balance required to keep the account open, or at least that's what I was told...
Kevin Morris12 Kevin Morris12 Active MemberOP
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#17 ·
User123 said:If you're a student without a steady income to show a bank, you might want to have a parent request an additional card for you.

The whole parental option just doesn't work for me. Honestly, it’s a disgrace that in this day and age, not a single bank in America offers a dedicated Visa Virtuon card—or really any card designed EXCLUSIVELY for online shopping. It's not like everyone in the US qualifies for standard credit cards...

Over at JPMorgan Chase, they offer an Internet Visa card (which is distinct from a Visa Virtuon). You pay a $20 account opening fee, and then whatever balance you load onto the account is yours to spend online. But here is the real kicker: the difference between these two types of cards is that the bank gives users the ability to toggle the card on or off whenever they finish shopping. It provides such great peace of mind knowing nobody can swipe your funds online, because once you lock the card via an automated phone call, the money is safe and untouchable.👍
Keith Doyle18 Keith Doyle18 Member
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#18 ·
soundvision said:And what’s the absolute minimum amount required for that deposit? I initially just put $1 into that checking—or whatever they call those "savings accounts"—into my account $0.00 .... I highly doubt that's going to cut it ....

$13is actually the minimum balance required for the account, at least that's what I was told ...

Look, you basically just tripped over your own feet there—to be blunt—because money sitting in a checking, savings, or foreign currency account that you deposited personally and can spend whenever you want doesn't count as a guarantee for opening any kind of credit card (regardless of the brand).

The security is an FDIC-insured, FIXED-TERM deposit. Essentially, you tell the teller at the branch—let's call her Sarah—"Hey, I'd like to deposit $X and lock it away for 12 months (or whatever the minimum term is), and I'd like you to issue me a Visa Classic, a Visa Classic revolving, a Mastercard, or a Mastercard Ell—or whatever JPMorgan Chase offers—based on that specific deposit which I won't touch." Then, Sarah will let you know the minimum deposit and the required term according to the bank's standard terms and conditions. Now, I don't work at JPMorgan Chase, so I don't know their exact fine print, but most major American banks follow very similar rules.

Money in a standard checking account serves only to cover the monthly bill, because the actual security deposit is not touched—the bank only dips into it if you fail to meet your payment obligations, providing them with a final safety net for collection.
Otherwise, you use the money in your checking account normally for daily life—meaning you just have to make sure you keep enough funds ($X) to cover whatever you bought online that's about to hit your statement, which then gets "pulled" from your checking/savings/etc. account.
Kevin Morris12 Kevin Morris12 Active MemberOP
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#19 ·
Tinker Bell said:Look, you basically just contradicted yourself...


I’m honestly lost—what exactly did I say "wrong"? 😕 You’ve laid out quite a bit of information here, but you haven't actually explained HOW I'm supposed to secure a credit card if I don't have a job and, consequently, no steady income. I'll be the first to admit I'm not exactly an expert on all this banking jargon, so could you please break it down for me? Maybe something simple, like "10 Steps to Your First Credit Card"? 😬
Kimberly Nguyen Kimberly Nguyen Regular
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#20 ·
Alright, let me break this down for you.
You walk into the bank... "Good morning," "How's it going?"... You get to the teller and say—look, I’m interested in getting a card specifically for online shopping.
Now, the teller is going to ask you for some kind of collateral or security measure, and they’ll ask what kind of card you’re looking for, because honestly, there are way too many options out there. Tell them you want a secured credit card backed by a CD. You’d want to put $333 (just check with them first, since some banks have a minimum term like $667) into a two-year CD, which is usually how long those cards are issued for. The beauty of using a CD as your security is that you don't need a steady paycheck or any other crazy proof of income.
As for your credit limit, that varies from one bank to another—like Chase or Bank of America—but generally, you can expect a limit of about 80-90% of whatever you deposited. Just keep in mind, these deposit-backed cards usually carry the lowest interest rates.

Does that make more sense now?

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