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How do I stop racing thoughts?

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Bradley Bennett9 Bradley Bennett9 Member
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#21 ·
Stan Lee said:exactly..it's the same thing every single day...just me and my computer..and I mean, I actually feel pretty good when I'm online ..but it feels like MOST people are constantly lecturing me about how I need to get out more....honestly, it's just boring

Have you ever stopped to realize that civilization managed to thrive for ages without computers? 🙂 People used to actually hang out with one another. But this self-imposed isolation you're doing is probably just feeding into that crappy mental state of yours.
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#22 ·
Bradley Bennett9 said:Have you ever considered that civilization managed just fine without computers? 🙂 People actually hang out with one another. This self-imposed isolation of yours is only making your mental state worse.

But what am I supposed to do if I just don't feel like going out? ...I honestly don't know why... maybe I just hate crowds... who knows...🙏
James Brown8 James Brown8 Member
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#23 ·
Stan Lee, look, I’ll be the first to admit I’ve been tripping over my own contradictions lately. Like, I used to preach that throwing yourself entirely into your work would be the ultimate key to happiness, only to realize later that "happiness" is basically just a mental mirage...

I’m going through a bit of a rough patch myself right now, though I’m definitely not spiraling toward any dark thoughts. Why? Because I actually believe in change. Specifically, I think if I can overhaul my daily habits, I can shift my entire state of consciousness. It’s like people say: our being doesn't dictate our consciousness; our consciousness dictates our being.

Hmm... maybe those experts actually know what they're talking about after all.

Later,
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#24 ·
Look, I get it. I’m constantly stuck in this gray, heavy headspace... and lately, those thoughts of just ending it all have been hitting harder. It feels like I’ve reached my breaking point.
When I started this thread, I wanted to be upfront about what pushed me toward suicidal ideation in the first place. I find myself searching for any reason to keep going, yet I often joke about it in front of people—almost like a defense mechanism. If the day ever actually comes, I don't want anyone to be caught completely off guard.
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#25 ·
Alright, I'll take a look...

P.S. Everyone is acting like I’m about to go off the deep end tonight... 🙂 but hey, maybe I'll check in if I'm feeling up for it. Who knows if I'll even have the energy to get online.
James Brown8 James Brown8 Member
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#26 ·
Look, I don't buy the whole "I'm gonna end it" thing for a second, no,
because the moment you reach out for help,
you're basically admitting there's still a part of you that actually gives a damn about staying around...
plus, narcissists don't kill themselves... haha👍
Daniel Wilson5 Daniel Wilson5 Active Member
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#27 ·
athma said:Look, I don't actually believe you're going to end it all. No,
because the second you reach out for help,
you're basically admitting that you actually give a damn about staying alive...
and narcissists don't kill themselves... hehe 👍


Hehe, athma, who are you really trying to convince here: yourself or Stan Lee?
It seems to me you're more terrified of Stan Lee than anything else, isn't that right?
Stan Lee, stay strong and don't let them shake you...
Stan Lee knows. Stan Lee feels life too intensely. And Stan Lee wants to change things.
Yo!!!
rustymaker5 rustymaker5 Regular
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#28 ·
Look, we all have this one stupid habit, you know, where we just go out of our way to manufacture drama—creating massive headaches out of thin air when things are actually fine, and then just sweeping them under the rug instead of dealing with them...
But honestly, the silver lining is that since we’re the ones making the mess, we’re also the ones who can clean it up.
That’s why I think you have to face every single issue with this mindset that there’s always a solution out there... because let’s be real, there aren't any "unsolvable" problems, there are just problems we're too chicken to tackle head-on.

And you really have to realize that nothing is actually standing in your way except for those voices in your own head and the limiting beliefs you cling to.

So, just try... seriously, just try to start noticing the small joys, the beauty, the weirdly interesting bits, and the actual meaning in the tiny details of your day-to-day life. If you do that, it’ll eventually become second nature, and you won't feel so useless or disappointed anymore, and even when everything feels like it's falling apart, you'll be able to find that little glimmer of hope and optimism...

Just keep in mind that you're only responsible for your own path, you can't live someone else's life, and nobody else can step in and live yours for you. 👍
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#29 ·
rustymaker5 said:Look, we all have that one annoying habit of manufacturing drama—creating problems where none actually exist. We blow small issues out of proportion, then just sweep them under the rug and pretend they aren't there.
But the silver lining is that since we’re the ones creating the mess, we’re also the ones who can fix it.
You have to tackle every hurdle with the mindset that a solution is always possible. There's no such thing as an unsolvable problem; there are only problems we're too intimidated to face head-on.

At the end of the day, nothing stands in your way except for your own mindset and what you believe about yourself.

So, make an effort. Start looking for the joy, the beauty, and the little moments of meaning in everything you do. Before you know it, it’ll become second nature. You won't feel so useless or let down anymore, and even when things get dark, you'll be able to spot that tiny glimmer of hope and optimism.

And never forget: you are only responsible for your own path. You can't live someone else's life, and nobody else can live yours for you. 👍

Maybe so, but if I actually had the power to change things, this whole thread wouldn't even exist...
I can't just flip a switch and start thinking positively on command...
rustymaker5 rustymaker5 Regular
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#30 ·
Stan Lee said:I can't just start thinking positively like that...


So, what’s actually stopping you? 🙄

It sounds like you're waiting for someone else to come along and pave the road for you, but you aren't a fan of how they do it, and honestly, you just don't feel like doing the heavy lifting yourself... 🙂

Everything is really just about repetition. When a negative thought starts creeping in, you have to catch it—be fully aware of it—and immediately flip it on its head into something positive. You have to do that every single time pessimism tries to grab hold of you. After a few days, or maybe a couple of weeks of this constant mental pivoting, you'll find yourself drifting toward optimism automatically...
Once you finally master that optimistic mindset, pessimism will feel totally irrelevant, distant, like a memory from a lifetime ago...

Just stick to the classics: a pessimist sees a glass as half empty, while an optimist sees it as half full!

Stop using those words that carry all that heavy, negative baggage, things like "I can't," "I don't have," or "I won't"... instead, try to lean into positive phrasing...

Try rewriting your own sentiment to: I can start thinking positively! Tell yourself that constantly, and your brain will eventually take the hint and realize you're issuing a new command. Your mind works just like a computer... whatever data you feed into it is what it spits back out, because it doesn't just invent stuff on its own...

At the end of the day, you can do whatever it is you want to do, it really just comes down to how much effort you're willing to pour into it... and let's be real, being an optimist takes some actual work... 😉
The world is a big, colorful place and we can all have a damn good time if we actually decide to... 👍
James Brown8 James Brown8 Member
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#31 ·
rustymaker5, is the glass half full or half empty even a real distinction? It’s just two different ways to describe the exact same thing, right? So, you can't really use that cliché to tell the difference between a true optimist and someone who’s just a "realistic pessimist."

And honestly, this whole idea you're pushing—that we can just rewire our brain chemistry through positive thinking alone—is pretty much scientifically baseless. If it were actually that easy, I’m pretty sure all the psychos and social deviants would have vanished from the face of the Earth by now, leaving psychologists to celebrate their absolute divine victory over human nature.

Just look at someone struggling with anorexia. You really think they can just wish themselves into enjoying a meal without feeling a massive wave of guilt? No way. They can't.

Things are way more complicated than they look on the surface. Our behavior is basically just a collection of habits and experiences baked in over years. Most people agree that those early childhood years are what really set the foundation for who you become later. Like they say, it's much easier to raise a kid right than it is to try and un-teach bad habits later on.

Also, let's think about the chicken-and-egg problem here: did the body come first, or consciousness? Simple matter or complex mind? Based on what modern science tells us, the physical stuff definitely comes first, which then dictates our consciousness, not the other way around. You could even apply that logic to society at large. Things like culture, history, and the economy shape the collective mindset of a population. Now, I'm not saying the reverse connection—consciousness influencing biology, or ideology shaping material relations in sociology—doesn't exist, but that influence is significantly weaker than the physical reality driving it.

For instance, how much can you actually help a lung cancer patient just by telling them to stay positive? Sure, it might make them feel a little better mentally, but it isn't going to cure the disease, is it? Or look at how much actual politics can impact social welfare or environmental health when the whole system is built on calculated capitalist interests. It might move the needle a tiny bit, but not enough, because power and capital are concentrated in the hands of people who couldn't care less about the common good. I don't see any reason why that wouldn't apply to mental health, too. Every thought we have is ultimately driven by our brain chemistry.

If I were giving advice to Stan Lee—and look, I’m more of a tech guy than a therapist—I’d tell him to focus on his lifestyle instead. Spend more time outside, fix his diet (breakfast, lunch, maybe cut back on meat), and maybe dial back the masturbation (just to keep those lecithin and phosphorus levels up so he can actually concentrate). He needs to find a hobby. Also, he should probably step away from the computer since he's clearly hooked, and maybe cut down on the cigarettes and coffee if he's using them as crutches. He doesn't need to go out looking for a crowd if he's lonely—people are usually a headache anyway—he'd be better off just picking up a good novel.
Bradley Fisher20 Bradley Fisher20 Active Member
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#32 ·
Get some damn physical activity in, seriously. You don't feel like it? Just force yourself...
rustymaker5 rustymaker5 Regular
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#33 ·
athma said:rustymaker5, does it actually matter if the glass is half full or half empty? It’s just two different ways of describing the exact same physical reality, isn't it?

And honestly, everything else you're bringing up—that idea that you can fundamentally rewire your brain chemistry through nothing more than autosuggestion to get those kinds of massive results... from a strictly scientific standpoint, that's just completely unfounded...

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Well, see, that right there is exactly what psychology is all about. Even though we're talking about the identical amount of liquid in that glass, the moment you label it "half empty," you're subconsciously triggering a sense of scarcity, whereas saying it's "half full" creates this positive headspace... it focuses on what you actually possess rather than what's missing. The difference lies entirely in how you internalize and experience your own words.
Personally, my glasses are always half full, though I'll admit that wasn't always my default setting...

As for the power of autosuggestion, that's a non-negotiable truth for me. Thought is the primary, most potent energy we have, and everything flows from that initial spark. Your thoughts belong solely to you; they are your own private domain, something no one else can strip away or alter unless you give them permission to...

Scientific validation always plays catch-up anyway. So why wait around for a lab report to tell us what's true? We might as well start practicing the good stuff right now, and let science eventually stumble upon the proof later on... 😉
James Brown8 James Brown8 Member
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#34 ·
rustymaker5: "Thought is the primary force; everything starts there."
Can you actually back that up with some real evidence?
Because half the time, people just act like a rock rolling down a hill
and, totally oblivious to what actually set them in motion, they convince themselves
that they’re the ones pulling the strings.

P.S. I'm dying for an answer here, since nobody else seems to have a clue.
rustymaker5 rustymaker5 Regular
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#35 ·
Now you’ve just gone and confused me... 😕
Seriously, what planet are you even from? 🤔
It’s honestly like asking me to provide some grand piece of evidence to prove the fact that you actually need letters to read... 🙄

p.s. Maybe try picking up something to read that isn't a comic book for once? 😁
William White2 William White2 Member
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#36 ·
I suppose my own life has seen its fair share of peaks and valleys, though I find those fluctuations—moving from periods of total inactivity to being completely overwhelmed—to be somewhat interesting in their own way. 😁

It seems like you can barely blink before finding some new distraction or task to occupy your time. 😁
Olivia Flores3 Olivia Flores3 Newcomer
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#37 ·
Please find a hobby!!!!!!!!!!
Once, out of pure madness, I almost swallowed some pills just because the box had do not ingest printed on it. I was honestly wondering how long it would take for someone to find me and save my life! It was simply because I was bored, and my mind tends to wander into strange places when I have nothing to do. 🙂I am certain there is something in this life that interests you, so please, go find something to occupy yourself...
.... get a cat, and don't kill yourself over it!
Jeremy Fisher12 Jeremy Fisher12 Newcomer
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#38 ·
Hit me up when you're in NYC. We'll grab some drinks, burn through a few, and I'll lay it all out for you so you can stop stressing about it...
A Anonymous VeteranOP
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#39 ·
athma said:Look, Arni, whether you say the glass is half full or half empty doesn't really matter—it’s just two different ways of describing the exact same thing, right? Because of that, you can't really use that cliché to distinguish between an optimist and someone who is just a "realistic pessimist."

And honestly, most of what you're claiming—that we can fundamentally rewire our brain chemistry through nothing more than positive thinking or self-suggestion—is scientifically baseless. If changing your mindset were actually that easy and radical, I’m pretty sure we would have wiped out all mental illness and antisocial behavior long ago, leaving psychologists to bask in their supposed divine triumph over the human condition.

Just think about someone struggling with anorexia. Do you honestly believe they can just wish themselves back to a healthy appetite and feel totally satisfied without any guilt just by using some "magic words"? No way. They can't.

Things are way more complicated than they seem on the surface. Our behavior is essentially the sum total of years of accumulated habits and experiences. Most experts agree that those early childhood years are the heavy hitters when it comes to shaping who we become. As the saying goes, it’s much easier to raise a child right than it is to re-educate an adult.

Also, ask yourself: what came first, the body or the consciousness? Simple matter or complex thought? Based on everything modern science tells us, biology dictates our consciousness, not the other way around. You could even apply this logic to social structures. Think about how culture, history, or the economy shapes the collective mindset of a population. Of course, there's a feedback loop where consciousness influences the physical world (or, if you listen to Marxists, ideology shapes material relations), but that influence is nowhere near as powerful as the biological foundation.

For example, how much can you actually help a patient with lung cancer by telling them to stay positive? Sure, it might lift their spirits a little, but it isn't going to cure the tumor, right? Or look at how much actual policy can improve social welfare or environmental health when the system is built on pure capitalism and the calculated interests of private corporations. It might help a tiny bit, but not enough, because capital and power are concentrated in the hands of people who don't care about the common good. I don't see why that wouldn't apply to mental health, too—our thoughts are driven by our brain chemistry, and they are entirely dependent on it.

Now, I'm a technical guy by trade, but if I were giving advice to Stalin, I'd tell him to focus on his lifestyle instead. He needs more fresh air, a better diet (maybe skipping the meat), less time spent on porn (to keep his lecithin and phosphorus levels up for better mental clarity), and he needs to find a hobby. Also, needs to step away from the computer since he's clearly addicted, and cut back on cigarettes or coffee if he’s even using them. He doesn't need to go looking for company if he's feeling lonely, because most social circles are forced anyway; he'd be better off just picking up a good novel.

I have one real friend; everyone else is just an "acquaintance."

This is news to me; it's definitely not happening 2 or 3 times a day.

I maybe have four beers a month, I don't smoke... if anything, the computer is my only addiction.
Bradley Bennett9 Bradley Bennett9 Member
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#40 ·
Alma said:Anna: "Thought is the primary and most powerful energy, and everything starts from there."
Can you actually provide some evidence to back that up?
Because honestly, sometimes people just act like a rock rolling down a hill
and, without even realizing what's actually driving them, they go along with this idea that
they're somehow the ones causing their own movement.

P.S. I'm dying to see an answer here, since nobody else seems to have managed to find one anywhere.

In the beginning was the Word... 🙂

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