The Great Zagor Temple of Compassion, Nonviolence, and Love.

Richard Walker79 said:Today's thought: run the other way from anyone who insists they’re absolutely right and everyone else is just wrong.

But what about someone like Galileo?
He was absolutely right, wasn't he?
Or even Jesus?
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driftingraven122 said:Thought for the day:

Avoid anyone who claims they’re somehow above being wrong—it's a red flag.
Stay away from those who think everyone's opinion carries equal weight—it’s just messy.
And most importantly? Run from the ones who clearly messed up, yet insist they’re perfectly right—honestly, just get out of there.

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The main thing is just running for it😂

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@Richard Walker79, the Zen story is right here—so, where is the teacher's commentary?

YGRAINE: KILLER AVATAR! 👏

driftingraven122 said:😁

@Richard Walker79, the Zen story is right here—so, where is the teacher's commentary?

I am no mere teacher; I am Grandmaster Dušan! If you truly seek actual KNOWLEDGE, that is how you should address me.🙂

driftingraven122 said:😁

@Richard Walker79, the Zen story is right here—so, where is the teacher's commentary?

The teacher's commentary is this:

PURE JOY—OR TOTAL MADNESS, OR RATHER...

THE REALIZATION THAT INNER RADIANCE IS WHAT FUELS OUTER ENTHUSIASM.

placidharbor7, there is absolutely no need to explain things to someone who already possesses their own mind. This isn't some holy scripture meant to be preached in a cathedral or a mosque.

Zen isn't a religion—it's pure wisdom,
where a person simply casts aside their own foolishness. 👋

Richard Walker79 said:I am no mere teacher; I am Grandmaster Dušan! If you truly seek actual KNOWLEDGE, that is how you should address me.🙂

Do I really need to bow before I address you?

I just hope you don't start charging me for having to address the massively overrated Grandmaster Dušan.

Richard Walker79 said:I am no mere teacher; I am Grandmaster Dušan! If you truly seek actual KNOWLEDGE, that is how you should address me.🙂

Grandmaster Dušan—how exactly is one supposed to achieve enlightenment without offending the Emperor or turning down his gift? I guess it’s a delicate balance—maybe.

steeleagle13 said:Do I really need to bow before I address you?

I just hope you don't start charging me for having to address the massively overrated Grandmaster Dušan.

You're jumping in to answer again instead of letting someone else speak.

driftingraven122 said:Grandmaster Dušan—how exactly is one supposed to achieve enlightenment without offending the Emperor or turning down his gift? I guess it’s a delicate balance—maybe.

He had already reached enlightenment by the time he received the horse.

Richard Walker79 said:He had already reached enlightenment by the time he received the horse.

So why does the story start with "On the day of his enlightenment..."? That would imply he wasn't enlightened yesterday.

If he was already enlightened—supposedly—then why did he go riding and end up breaking his legs?

Richard Walker79 said:placidharbor7, there is absolutely no need to explain things to someone who already possesses their own mind. This isn't some holy scripture meant to be preached in a cathedral or a mosque.

Zen isn't a religion—it's pure wisdom,
where a person simply casts aside their own foolishness. 👋

It looks like life has given you plenty of bites from vipers, Richard Walker79, because now you're even getting tripped up by pebbles!

In Zen, nothing is more precious than a living teacher. In fact, nothing else even matters when it comes to Zen teaching.

Posting other people's wise anecdotes here and just slapping the label "ZEN" on them is honestly a bit insulting, don't you think?

True ZEN is found in how Master Dragonfly and Enchantress converse with their "students," and how Master Klimakos and Gristi lead, along with the humble presence of placidharbor7.

If there is nothing left to interpret—since everyone "possesses a mind," as you put it—then what exactly are you doing here?
Are you planning to spend your time taping posters to walls and putting together a spiritual newsletter?

It sounds like you'll need quite a bit more time before you actually EMBRACE what you've so cleverly hinted at, Richard Walker79.

driftingraven122 said:So why does the story start with "On the day of his enlightenment..."? That would imply he wasn't enlightened yesterday.

If he was already enlightened—supposedly—then why did he go riding and end up breaking his legs?

And who in their right mind are you even trying to explain this to—"someone else who actually uses their brain"?

Master Ivanna, why have you halted mid-stride,
when the finish line is still ahead of you? 😁

placidharbor7 said:It looks like life has given you plenty of bites from vipers, Richard Walker79, because now you're even getting tripped up by pebbles!

In Zen, nothing is more precious than a living teacher. In fact, nothing else even matters when it comes to Zen teaching.

Posting other people's wise anecdotes here and just slapping the label "ZEN" on them is honestly a bit insulting, don't you think?

True ZEN is found in how Master Dragonfly and Enchantress converse with their "students," and how Master Klimakos and Gristi lead, along with the humble presence of placidharbor7.

If there is nothing left to interpret—since everyone "possesses a mind," as you put it—then what exactly are you doing here?
Are you planning to spend your time taping posters to walls and putting together a spiritual newsletter?

It sounds like you'll need quite a bit more time before you actually EMBRACE what you've so cleverly hinted at, Richard Walker79.

Hehehe, look who's talking! 🙂

Nothing in zen is more precious than a living teacher. In fact, nothing else matters at all in zen instruction.

Spouting someone else's wise little stories here is just spitting on the word "ZEN."

Do you really think you're right?

ZEN is simply how Mistress Dragonfly and Enchantress speak to their "students," along with Master Klimakos and Gristi, plus the modest residents of Master Ivanna's circle.

Hehehe, well, it isn't something you can just claim as your own, and your version of "modesty and humility" is legendary, let me tell you! 😂

If there is nothing left to interpret—since everyone "possesses a mind," as you say—then what are you even doing here?
Are you just hanging posters on walls and publishing some spiritual underground newspaper?

This temple exists merely as a reminder that a person can think for themselves. They don't need anyone to season a mind that already believes it's right.

You'll need more time to truly EMBODY what you've so cleverly INTUITED, Grandmaster Dusan.

Just like Raman, right? 😉

driftingraven122 said:So why does the story start with "On the day of his enlightenment..."? That would imply he wasn't enlightened yesterday.

If he was already enlightened—supposedly—then why did he go riding and end up breaking his legs?

If you say so.

If he was already enlightened, why did he go riding a horse and break his legs?

Maybe he didn't know how to ride? 😁

My dear friend, you are the one who decides what a story means! Don't let anyone else interpret it for you.👍

Richard Walker79 said:Master Ivanna, why have you halted mid-stride,
when the finish line is still ahead of you? 😁

If you aim too hard, you just end up breaking your own feet.

driftingraven122 said:So why does the story start with "On the day of his enlightenment..."? That would imply he wasn't enlightened yesterday.

If he was already enlightened—supposedly—then why did he go riding and end up breaking his legs?

Look, we're talking about a bit of storytelling here—it's fine for the main character to have been enlightened already.

Just leave that specific detail out, and there’s no problem at all—though, of course, finding the actual point of the story might get a little tricky.

And honestly, what kind of irrelevant question is this—"If he was already enlightened, why did he ride a horse and break his legs?"

That's really not how a "Master Candidate" of the V.S.P.Z.S. should be acting, is it?

I suppose if one were to take this Quotation seriously—though I wouldn't recommend it—one might actually find some merit in it. Perhaps.

Richard Walker79 said:If you say so.

If he was already enlightened, why did he go riding a horse and break his legs?

Maybe he didn't know how to ride? 😁

My dear friend, you are the one who decides what a story means! Don't let anyone else interpret it for you.👍

So—that is what KNOWLEDGE actually looks like. 🙄 😁