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The Great Zagor Temple of Compassion, Nonviolence, and Love.

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Participants Sandra Palmer10stormycobra90Dana Brooks3Anthony Rodriguez58Jack Harris3rustymaker5Jason Johnson4Brian Mendoza95Timothy Murphy7ambereagle642boldsailor32Richard Walker79placidharbor7slydriver17driftingraven122Amanda Roberts21steeleagle13jademarlin26mistyfox812driftingwolf45Rebecca Johnson36hiddencyclist9boldsailor2Sean Martinez4 …
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
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#81 ·
Here is today’s little Zen parable (and yes, I am still alive, you crazy cats):
A man comes across a venomous snake that is sick. He goes out of his way to heal it, only for the snake to bite him immediately after, leading to his death.
mistyfox812 mistyfox812 Regular
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#82 ·
Richard Walker79 said:Pardon my bluntness, but: 🙂

There's an old saying: the person who's right gets one slap, while the person who's wrong gets two!😉

Well, looks like you're right once again. 👋
Rebecca Johnson36 Rebecca Johnson36 Newcomer
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#83 ·
Richard Walker79 said:An online community shouldn't just be a battlefield for "I'm right," "this is the truth," or "you're wrong." It should also serve as a way for socializing and sharing knowledge, acting as a tool for learning.
A person might hold a single opinion where they feel certain they are correct or perhaps they simply don't care about being right—and that's perfectly fine too.

So, were you actually right back then, or are you right now?

Richard Walker79 said:An online community shouldn't just be a battlefield for "I'm right," "this is the truth," or "you're wrong." It should also serve as a way for socializing and sharing knowledge, acting as a tool for learning.
A person might hold a single opinion where they feel certain they are correct or perhaps they simply don't care about being right—and that's perfectly fine too.
steeleagle13 steeleagle13 Active Member
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#84 ·
Richard Walker79 said:Here is today’s little Zen parable (and yes, I am still alive, you crazy cats):
A man comes across a venomous snake that is sick. He goes out of his way to heal it, only for the snake to bite him immediately after, leading to his death.

Look, I've got nothing against you😁—it was just a joke, don't take it the wrong way🙂
Rebecca Johnson36 Rebecca Johnson36 Newcomer
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#85 ·
Richard Walker79 said:Here is today’s little Zen parable (and yes, I am still alive, you crazy cats):
A man comes across a venomous snake that is sick. He goes out of his way to heal it, only for the snake to bite him immediately after, leading to his death.

I suppose this story is about how human nature remains fundamentally unchanged—regardless of any supposed spiritual awakening.

What kind of character does Richard Walker79 possess—that grand, masterly nature first recognized by Allah, then by Christ, and finally by Master Ivan?😢
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
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#86 ·
mistyfox812 said:Well, looks like you're right once again. 👋

Oh, it's more than just a feeling...🙂
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
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#87 ·
Rebecca Johnson36 Asks:
This story explores how our core nature remains constant, regardless of everything else. It’s really more about finding true awakening despite all the noise!

What kind of grand, masterful nature does Richard Walker79—of the Zagorov lineage—possess? It’s the kind of greatness that is first recognized by Allah, then by Christ, and finally by Master Ivan!😢

Look, man, she should be free to think and act however she wants without even caring what anyone thinks. Is she right or not? Honestly, Zen Master Tanzan mastered that concept ages ago, but you clearly haven't read enough or truly grasped it yet!
Zen Master Tanzan tried his best to explain what true freedom from concepts actually looks like: it's the realization that I am right!
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
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#88 ·
steeleagle13 said:Look, I've got nothing against you😁—it was just a joke, don't take it the wrong way🙂

No worries at all, buddy! Even if you're upset, it’s totally fine... everything is great.😁 👍
mistyfox812 mistyfox812 Regular
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#89 ·
Richard Walker79 said:Oh, it's more than just a feeling...🙂

Exactly. 👍
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
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#90 ·
Rebecca Johnson36 said:So, were you actually right back then, or are you right now?

I don't really sweat the small stuff because I prefer living in the moment! Everything is constantly shifting and evolving. Some people just get stuck in their ways—like you—and act like they've got all the answers.
mistyfox812 mistyfox812 Regular
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#91 ·
Richard Walker79 said:
Rebecca Johnson36 Asks:
This story explores how our core nature remains constant, regardless of everything else. It’s really more about finding true awakening despite all the noise!

What kind of grand, masterful nature does Richard Walker79—of the Zagorov lineage—possess? It’s the kind of greatness that is first recognized by Allah, then by Christ, and finally by Master Ivan!😢

Look, man, she should be free to think and act however she wants without even caring what anyone thinks. Is she right or not? Honestly, Zen Master Tanzan mastered that concept ages ago, but you clearly haven't read enough or truly grasped it yet!
Zen Master Tanzan tried his best to explain what true freedom from concepts actually looks like: it's the realization that I am right!

It's kind of wild how hard it is to wrap your head around the fact that saying "I've mastered this and you haven't" or "Osho agrees with me" actually implies... well, what does it actually mean? 😉

No, it definitely doesn't mean you're...
ambereagle642 ambereagle642 Active Member
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#92 ·
Richard Walker79 said:I don't really sweat the small stuff because I prefer living in the moment! Everything is constantly shifting and evolving. Some people just get stuck in their ways—like you—and act like they've got all the answers.

If you actually lived in the moment, you wouldn't even be talking right now... but since you're living in the USA, we already know how this goes... I wonder which state would be the most terrified...😂 😂
Rebecca Johnson36 Rebecca Johnson36 Newcomer
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#93 ·
Richard Walker79 said:I don't really sweat the small stuff because I prefer living in the moment! Everything is constantly shifting and evolving. Some people just get stuck in their ways—like you—and act like they've got all the answers.

You’re dreaming in the "present moment," much like how you used to dream about Allah, then Jesus, then the Virgin Mary, and finally Master Ivan in those same old "present moments" of yours.

An awakened person knows nothing—they certainly don't cling to some fake evolution of dreams and dreaminess. But clearly, you're just banging your head against Richard Walker79's stubborn intellect.

Osho never actually presented a single true master; he just droned on about opiates—it's no wonder you're so influenced by him.

Stop disrespecting Zen Master Tanzan. You swallowed that delusion just as easily as you did your visions of Allah and Christ during those eternally snoring "present moments."
driftingraven122 driftingraven122 Active Member
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#94 ·
Rebecca Johnson36 said:I suppose this story is about how human nature remains fundamentally unchanged—regardless of any supposed spiritual awakening.

What kind of character does Richard Walker79 possess—that grand, masterly nature first recognized by Allah, then by Christ, and finally by Master Ivan?😢

So, does it heal everything—poison included?
And what if someone mistakenly thinks this "healing" actually makes them immune to the poison?
driftingraven122 driftingraven122 Active Member
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#95 ·
Richard Walker79 said:
Rebecca Johnson36 Asks:
This story explores how our core nature remains constant, regardless of everything else. It’s really more about finding true awakening despite all the noise!

What kind of grand, masterful nature does Richard Walker79—of the Zagorov lineage—possess? It’s the kind of greatness that is first recognized by Allah, then by Christ, and finally by Master Ivan!😢

Look, man, she should be free to think and act however she wants without even caring what anyone thinks. Is she right or not? Honestly, Zen Master Tanzan mastered that concept ages ago, but you clearly haven't read enough or truly grasped it yet!
Zen Master Tanzan tried his best to explain what true freedom from concepts actually looks like: it's the realization that I am right!

Hmm... I suspect it’s more likely that Osho rode a horse and ended up breaking his legs. 🤔

But hey—I could be wrong, obviously. 😬
driftingwolf45 driftingwolf45 Member
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#96 ·
Rebecca Johnson36 said:You’re dreaming in the "present moment," much like how you used to dream about Allah, then Jesus, then the Virgin Mary, and finally Master Ivan in those same old "present moments" of yours.

An awakened person knows nothing—they certainly don't cling to some fake evolution of dreams and dreaminess. But clearly, you're just banging your head against Richard Walker79's stubborn intellect.

Osho never actually presented a single true master; he just droned on about opiates—it's no wonder you're so influenced by him.

Stop disrespecting Zen Master Tanzan. You swallowed that delusion just as easily as you did your visions of Allah and Christ during those eternally snoring "present moments."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2T0IzmfqAo

Here is a link to Dolano, a radical Zen master and a student of Osho. Maybe listen to her for a bit and decide for yourself what you think of her energy. People say she's enlightened, and she says she is, too. There are others out there. She isn't the only one...
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
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#97 ·
Rebecca Johnson36 said:You’re dreaming in the "present moment," much like how you used to dream about Allah, then Jesus, then the Virgin Mary, and finally Master Ivan in those same old "present moments" of yours.

An awakened person knows nothing—they certainly don't cling to some fake evolution of dreams and dreaminess. But clearly, you're just banging your head against Richard Walker79's stubborn intellect.

Osho never actually presented a single true master; he just droned on about opiates—it's no wonder you're so influenced by him.

Stop disrespecting Zen Master Tanzan. You swallowed that delusion just as easily as you did your visions of Allah and Christ during those eternally snoring "present moments."

This is spiritual evolution, something you clearly know nothing about!
Whether it is Allah, Master John, Jesus, or even Osho, there are gems to be found alongside plenty of nonsense.
Even an enlightened person can ride a horse and break their legs; being enlightened doesn't turn someone into a Superman—they are still just regular people.

Osho didn't produce any masters and spent his time rambling about narcotics; it’s hardly surprising you find him influential.

Osho isn't a Zen master like Master John, so he isn't out there creating clones. You don't really grasp the concept of individuality, do you?

And besides, drugs are banned for most people, but free spirits do whatever they please. You haven't truly realized Osho because you simply don't value freedom and individuality in a person.🙂

Stop disrespecting Master Tanzan! You swallowed your own delusions just as you did with Allah and Christ during your eternally snoring "present moments."

So, what exactly bothers you about my "delusions," you Banned Master?
😁 Or have you suddenly decided that Richard Walker79 holds the truth?
Keep going, Master! Everything is in constant motion, including spiritual growth. Don't you dare stop now!
Richard Walker79 Richard Walker79 Active Member
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#98 ·
mistyfox812 said:It's kind of wild how hard it is to wrap your head around the fact that saying "I've mastered this and you haven't" or "Osho agrees with me" actually implies... well, what does it actually mean? 😉

No, it definitely doesn't mean you're...

I am honestly fascinated by those stubborn philosophers who try to wrap their entire intellect around everything. Look, I’ve already stated my position, and that’s it—I don't lose sleep over whether I'm right or wrong. Tomorrow, I could just toss all of this aside and think something completely different. What a person thinks doesn't change reality or the nature of existence. Seriously, I could tell you right now that everything I say is a total lie and that I'm dead wrong—would that make you happy?👍
hiddencyclist9 hiddencyclist9 Newcomer
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#99 ·
Richard Walker79 said:Pardon my bluntness, but: 🙂

There's an old saying: the person who's right gets one slap, while the person who's wrong gets two!😉

Well, most women don't really mind being wrong. That's why they never are.
And some guys, too...
hiddencyclist9 hiddencyclist9 Newcomer
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#100 ·
driftingwolf45 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2T0IzmfqAo

Here is a link to Dolano, a radical Zen master and a student of Osho. Maybe listen to her for a bit and decide for yourself what you think of her energy. People say she's enlightened, and she says she is, too. There are others out there. She isn't the only one...


Sure, an Osho follower is "enlightened." But only under a blacklight.

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