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restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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#9561 ·
Rebecca Sanders37 said:Kevin Nguyen3 actually went and asked his doctor to get some meds for me since I’ve been feeling pretty depressed lately. She didn't even make a big deal out of it, just brushed it off like, "Oh, it's just typical teenage angst," blah blah blah.

But seriously, you gotta tell me—what's the deal with erectile dysfunction? That's the stuff I'm actually worried about...

I have this aunt who takes Zoloft and she is absolutely wild! She's constantly cracking jokes, talking total nonsense, and treats everything like one big prank. Honestly, it's kind of hilarious.

It sounds like you might be taking Lexapro a bit too lightly yourself. 🙂
Kevin Nguyen3 actually gave you a solid recommendation for your "issue." Or, if you're looking to boost your motivation through medication, Wellbutrin is the way to go. By the way, it doesn't carry those specific side effects you're worried about, and it definitely gives you that extra drive to get stuff done.
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
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#9562 ·
restlesstiger49 said:Taking Ginkgo Biloba while on antidepressants—any experiences or info out there?
Thanks!

I'm currently on my second day of taking Ginkgo (40mg daily), and so far, I haven't noticed any side effects at all. 🙂
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#9563 ·
restlesstiger49 said:Taking Ginkgo Biloba while on antidepressants—any experiences or info out there?
Thanks!

Generally speaking, Ginkgo interacts with antidepressants; there is a real risk of triggering mania.
It also clashes specifically with things like Warfarin (an anticoagulant, though why or how isn't really the point here...)

So, honestly? I wouldn't recommend mixing Ginkgo with your meds.

That said, Ginkgo (and similar supplements) can act as an anti-stress aid—definitely worth considering for anyone dealing with high pressure who *isn't* already on antidepressants.
Plus—it boosts libido... which, let's be honest, is a plus for the guys.🤣
Jeremy Scott Jeremy Scott Active Member
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#9564 ·
Kevin Nguyen3, you're actually alive!! 👋 👋 How’s life treating you?
restlesstiger49 restlesstiger49 Regular
271 messages
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#9565 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:Generally speaking, Ginkgo interacts with antidepressants; there is a real risk of triggering mania.
It also clashes specifically with things like Warfarin (an anticoagulant, though why or how isn't really the point here...)

So, honestly? I wouldn't recommend mixing Ginkgo with your meds.

That said, Ginkgo (and similar supplements) can act as an anti-stress aid—definitely worth considering for anyone dealing with high pressure who *isn't* already on antidepressants.
Plus—it boosts libido... which, let's be honest, is a plus for the guys.🤣

To be honest, I’ve actually been feeling a bit of that myself. It might not necessarily be full-blown mania, but I've definitely noticed a certain "lust for life" that I haven't felt in quite some time. 😁 🎉

Anyway, hope everyone is doing well! 👋 It’s been way too long...
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#9566 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:Generally speaking, Ginkgo interacts with antidepressants; there is a real risk of triggering mania.
It also clashes specifically with things like Warfarin (an anticoagulant, though why or how isn't really the point here...)

So, honestly? I wouldn't recommend mixing Ginkgo with your meds.

That said, Ginkgo (and similar supplements) can act as an anti-stress aid—definitely worth considering for anyone dealing with high pressure who *isn't* already on antidepressants.
Plus—it boosts libido... which, let's be honest, is a plus for the guys.🤣

Oh, come on now—more discrimination!😒😉
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#9567 ·
shadowfox75 said:Panic attacks are truly awful. I deal with them occasionally. For me, the most difficult part is that underlying sense of dread that triggers anxiety, which then feeds back into more fear in a constant loop. I am also quite sensitive to side effects, making it hard to tell if a sensation is caused by the medication or just my own anxiety. It feels like I am as fragile as a snowflake, even though I certainly don't look the part. The brain is a strange organ.☕

People with anxiety are incredibly sensitive; there were times when even the brightness of white snow felt like someone was shining a spotlight directly into my eyes. Things like that could genuinely trigger a panic attack!
Rebecca Sanders37 Rebecca Sanders37 Member
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#9568 ·
Mixing Ginseng with Cipralex... should I go for it or nah?
restlesstrucker15 restlesstrucker15 Regular
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#9569 ·
restlesstiger49 said:I'm currently on my second day of taking Ginkgo (40mg daily), and so far, I haven't noticed any side effects at all. 🙂


You should probably just ask at the pharmacy. I read up on this quite a while ago and found there aren't any interactions, though there are some with similar supplements.
Or you could check with a clinical pharmacology specialist 😁

What's the motivation behind taking it? Is it because of those unappealing 😁 side effects or something else? I ask because doctors usually prescribe a little Wellbutrin to help with that, but if you're on an antidepressant for anything other than depression, they won't give it to you—you'll lose your mind. 🙂 Believe me, I know.
For me, those specific side effects were least noticeable on Lexapro, and they eventually leveled out after about five or six weeks. Some antidepressants really kill your drive, or they just take longer for your body to adjust. It's highly individual, but from what I hear, Lexapro is a bit milder.
Unless you're dealing with forgetfulness and want to try Ginkgo? :P Honestly, I often struggle to remember names and terms myself; maybe I need some Ginkgo too. But then again, I'm a bit foggy from using opioid painkillers, so...
What was my point again? 🤣

Send me a DM
Linda Sanchez8 Linda Sanchez8 Newcomer
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#9570 ·
So, I’m back on Prozac. It’s been forever since I last took it, so honestly, I can’t even remember if I had side effects back then. I don’t think I did, because I felt totally fine, but lately, my anxiety has just been spiraling out of control, so here I am again. Today is day three and I am absolutely exhausted because I haven't been able to sleep for anything. On top of that, I’ve broken out in acne—though, god knows, it might just be my ovulation acting up. Now I’m spiraling a bit reading about serotonin syndrome online. I started on a tiny 25 mg dose, so is there actually any risk at this level, or is it too low for anything bad to happen? I’m genuinely terrified of what’s going to happen when I eventually bump it up to 50 mg. I feel like I’m constantly scanning my body for any weird sensations, though right now the only thing I can really pin down is the acne. What’s making me extra paranoid is that one time I went to the ER after a massive panic attack triggered by some antibiotics, and they told me that allergic reactions usually show up almost immediately after the first dose. Does anyone know if that’s actually true? Like, since I’ve taken Prozac before, can I just breathe easy? Please help, this whole thing is just feeding into my anxiety and keeping me wide awake 😢
Charles Wright Charles Wright Member
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#9571 ·
I’ve been spending some time reading through this thread about psychotropic drugs, and I’ve realized that quite a few people here seem to know way more about antidepressants than I do—even though I’ve been using them for nearly fifteen years. My doctor mentioned that it’s actually a very common occurrence, almost a rule of thumb, that after taking a specific antidepressant for about five years, its effectiveness starts to drop significantly. I can actually back that up with my own experience, since I've used the same medication for five or more years on two separate occasions. This second one (Prozac), which I switched to after taking Paxil, really did the trick for a long time and made life much easier. However, recently, without even missing a single 30mg daily dose, I suddenly and terribly "sank." I reached out to my doctor, who added 4mg of Endronax to my regular Prozac dose. Now I'm going through the adjustment period with this new addition, and I feel like I'm being hit by almost every common side effect: trouble sleeping, issues with urination, headaches, and erectile dysfunction. I’m hoping these things settle down eventually. I was wondering if anyone else has dealt with an antidepressant losing its kick after long-term use, forcing a switch, and if anyone could share their personal experience with Endronax?
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#9572 ·
@Kevin Nguyen3

It is incredibly difficult to make sweeping generalizations here, isn't it? We are all unique individuals! Some people can cruise along on the exact same medication for twenty years without a hitch, while others simply cannot tolerate it at all.
Take my experience, for instance—Paxil just didn't sit right with me. I used to feel absolutely terrible; I’m talking nausea, stomach issues, and all sorts of other nonsense until I finally stopped taking it.

In my honest opinion, you shouldn't have changed anything; that was the mistake you made.
We all hit those low points occasionally, don't we? But did it not occur to you that this might just be temporary? That after a little while, everything would settle back into place?!
Something in your daily routine or your usual equilibrium shifted slightly, and your body reacted to that change.
I personally find that when my blood pressure is running low, I have a hard time tolerating pills, but since blood pressure fluctuates constantly, I usually feel fine again after a few hours.

What your doctor is claiming sounds like nonsense to me. She doesn't know, and frankly, she can't know. It feels like she's just trying to defend her profession so she doesn't look incompetent.

Norepinephrine is used to boost those levels because it's understood that a drop in norepinephrine can lead to depressive states. So, technically, the doctor isn't "wrong," but there is really no point in staying on it long-term since you already have your steady maintenance therapy. Besides, the interactions between various medications are such a massive unknown... nobody truly knows exactly what is happening in there.

The struggles you're describing are actually quite common after stopping any antidepressant; they will pass. Your body needs time to adjust to the new medication, and on top of that, you're still weaning off Prozac... it's a double whammy, man.

Try to think clearly and just use some logic. This isn't science fiction! These are all normal, expected occurrences. In fact, if things were different, *that* is when you should actually start worrying.
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#9573 ·
Kevin Nguyen3: Wait, what? Did I read that right? Are we seriously still debating this? It feels like we’ve been circling the drain on this exact topic for months, hasn't it? Is anyone actually listening to the data being presented here? Because from where I’m sitting—and believe me, I’ve been looking—it seems like we are completely missing the forest for the trees! I mean, look at the sheer scale of the situation. We aren't just talking about a minor hiccup in the system; we are talking about a fundamental shift in how everything operates! How can one even begin to process that? It’s overwhelming. It’s absolutely staggering! And yet, there we are, arguing over the minutiae while the entire foundation is shifting beneath our feet. Does that not strike anyone else as profoundly absurd? I find myself wondering if we have lost our collective sense of perspective entirely. Is it possible? Is it truly? I simply cannot wrap my head around the lack of urgency!
Rebecca Sanders37 said:Mixing Ginseng with Cipralex... should I go for it or nah?

Is it you again? Seriously? Are we really doing this once more?🙂

No.
Ash... does it actually influence how fast the thyroid works? It really does. And because of that, isn't it just asking for trouble to mix it with ADHD medications? It seems like a massive risk.
It’s the exact same story! Thyroid medication and Ashwagandhe... no! No, no, no! Why does everyone insist on this? Is anyone actually listening? It’s just like that one song playing on loop in a bad cafe—it never ends! Seriously, why do we keep going in circles?
Pregnant women, nursing mothers... please, just stay away from the damn thing!

Is it even possible that we are overlooking something so fundamental? It occurs to me—and perhaps it should occur to everyone—that so many people struggling with depression might actually be dealing with a severe magnesium deficiency without even realizing it. How can we expect the mind to function when the body is lacking such a vital element? I truly believe this could be one of the most effective ways to help prevent the onset of depressive episodes. We simply must look closer at these nutritional gaps!

The Ashwagandhe plant... now there is a fascinating subject, isn't there? Truly fascinating. But one must be cautious! It is not some sort of universal panacea that fits every single person's needs, nor is it suitable for every possible situation. One must wonder, shouldn't one? Is it right for everyone? I think not. It is quite specific, really.
Charles Wright Charles Wright Member
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#9574 ·
Kevin Nguyen3 said:@Kevin Nguyen3

It is incredibly difficult to make sweeping generalizations here, isn't it? We are all unique individuals! Some people can cruise along on the exact same medication for twenty years without a hitch, while others simply cannot tolerate it at all.
Take my experience, for instance—Paxil just didn't sit right with me. I used to feel absolutely terrible; I’m talking nausea, stomach issues, and all sorts of other nonsense until I finally stopped taking it.

In my honest opinion, you shouldn't have changed anything; that was the mistake you made.
We all hit those low points occasionally, don't we? But did it not occur to you that this might just be temporary? That after a little while, everything would settle back into place?!
Something in your daily routine or your usual equilibrium shifted slightly, and your body reacted to that change.
I personally find that when my blood pressure is running low, I have a hard time tolerating pills, but since blood pressure fluctuates constantly, I usually feel fine again after a few hours.

What your doctor is claiming sounds like nonsense to me. She doesn't know, and frankly, she can't know. It feels like she's just trying to defend her profession so she doesn't look incompetent.

Norepinephrine is used to boost those levels because it's understood that a drop in norepinephrine can lead to depressive states. So, technically, the doctor isn't "wrong," but there is really no point in staying on it long-term since you already have your steady maintenance therapy. Besides, the interactions between various medications are such a massive unknown... nobody truly knows exactly what is happening in there.

The struggles you're describing are actually quite common after stopping any antidepressant; they will pass. Your body needs time to adjust to the new medication, and on top of that, you're still weaning off Prozac... it's a double whammy, man.

Try to think clearly and just use some logic. This isn't science fiction! These are all normal, expected occurrences. In fact, if things were different, *that* is when you should actually start worrying.

I haven't stopped taking Prozac. Instead, I'm taking one 4mg tablet of Norepinephrine alongside it, so I'm not going through a withdrawal phase, but rather an adjustment phase to the Norepinephrine—a "mix" of Prozac and Norepinephrine. I'm not happy about the addition because I believe every extra pill puts more strain on the body long-term, likely hitting the liver first, and who knows what kind of risks that carries. But it seems like Prozac just isn't enough to keep me balanced anymore after all these years.
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#9575 ·
Charles Wright said:I haven't stopped taking Prozac. Instead, I'm taking one 4mg tablet of Norepinephrine alongside it, so I'm not going through a withdrawal phase, but rather an adjustment phase to the Norepinephrine—a "mix" of Prozac and Norepinephrine. I'm not happy about the addition because I believe every extra pill puts more strain on the body long-term, likely hitting the liver first, and who knows what kind of risks that carries. But it seems like Prozac just isn't enough to keep me balanced anymore after all these years.

Hmm... I suspect we are looking at an interaction between two medications that act almost identically.
It might not be full-blown serotonin syndrome yet, but it certainly feels like you're hovering right on the edge of it.
Your best bet is to have a serious talk with your doctor; we can only speculate and guess here in this forum.

Is it true that long-term medication causes damage? Yes, absolutely. Depending on how your specific body processes things, any medication carries some level of risk.
The thing is, some people can take meds their entire lives without feeling a single side effect, while others... well, others might hit a wall very quickly.

In actual clinical practice, psychiatrists generally try to avoid prescribing two different antidepressants at once, specifically because of those exact risks.
Why would your doctor choose this path for you? I have no way of knowing. Perhaps she’s just trying to pull you out of this crisis as fast as possible before pivoting you to a different regimen—something else similar to Prozac.

If you can manage it, if it isn't too overwhelming, try to hang in there. That "dip" you feel from this kind of therapy shouldn't last forever.
Charles Wright Charles Wright Member
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#9576 ·
Blue Ivy said:
They probably just want to pull you out of this slump quickly, only to swap you onto a different regimen—something similar to Prozac.

If you can stomach it, hang in there. That "dip" during this kind of treatment shouldn't last too long.

That’s basically how I saw it, too. In fact, she told me pretty much the same thing.
I've been on the new treatment for about ten days now. I guess the Wellbutrin hasn't really kicked in yet to lift my mood, but maybe it's still a bit early for that.
I'm managing to get by, despite those side effects I mentioned and this lingering feeling of being "numb" and "slowed down."
mellowtinker7 mellowtinker7 Member
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#9577 ·
Anyone got any advice or actual experience with successfully stepping away from Adderall? I’ve been in therapy for about a year and a half now. Physically and mentally, I’ve recovered quite well, but the thought of that absolute hellscape I went through still haunts me. It’s constant. On paper, life is actually going great—I’ve made solid strides both personally and in my career—but the anxiety just sits there. It’s always present. My doctor told me to stop once I feel truly ready, rather than waiting for some perfect, zen-like day that probably isn't coming.
Kevin Nguyen3 Kevin Nguyen3 Regular
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#9578 ·
mellowtinker7 said:Anyone got any advice or actual experience with successfully stepping away from Adderall? I’ve been in therapy for about a year and a half now. Physically and mentally, I’ve recovered quite well, but the thought of that absolute hellscape I went through still haunts me. It’s constant. On paper, life is actually going great—I’ve made solid strides both personally and in my career—but the anxiety just sits there. It’s always present. My doctor told me to stop once I feel truly ready, rather than waiting for some perfect, zen-like day that probably isn't coming.

Technically speaking, bit by bit.🤣

There are three ways to approach this.☕
1. You gradually taper down the dosage; say, dropping from 20 mg to 10 mg. Then you go even lower, and eventually, you're off.
2. You take it less frequently than prescribed. If you're supposed to take it twice a day, drop to once. Then the next day, go back to two, then the day after, one again... just slowly weaning yourself off.
3. You quit cold turkey. That is a total nightmare, though technically possible. I am absolutely not recommending that.😵

Oh boy, oh boy... it's almost as if you don't realize how the process works...😒

But the real issue is something else entirely—are you actually mentally prepared to stop taking the Adderall?
mellowtinker7 mellowtinker7 Member
10 messages
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#9579 ·
Bluzara said:
Pure professionalism, step by step.🤣

There are three ways to play it.☕
1. You taper down the dosage, like going from 20 mg to 10 mg. Then you go even lower until you’re off.
2. You space out the doses more than the prescription calls for. If it's twice a day, switch to once a day, then back to twice tomorrow, then once again the next day—just drift away from it slowly.
3. Cold turkey. It's a total mess, but people do it. Not that I'm recommending it.😵

Oh boy, look at you acting like you don't know how the process works...😒

The actual issue is something else entirely—are you actually ready to stop taking the ADs?

Yeah, that's exactly the catch. The fear of that absolute nightmare is what's holding me back... and honestly, I don't know if I'll ever feel ready. P.S. mellowtinker7, so good to see you popping up here after being gone for so long.🙂
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#9580 ·
Charles Wright said:I’ve been spending some time reading through this thread about psychotropic drugs, and I’ve realized that quite a few people here seem to know way more about antidepressants than I do—even though I’ve been using them for nearly fifteen years. My doctor mentioned that it’s actually a very common occurrence, almost a rule of thumb, that after taking a specific antidepressant for about five years, its effectiveness starts to drop significantly. I can actually back that up with my own experience, since I've used the same medication for five or more years on two separate occasions. This second one (Prozac), which I switched to after taking Paxil, really did the trick for a long time and made life much easier. However, recently, without even missing a single 30mg daily dose, I suddenly and terribly "sank." I reached out to my doctor, who added 4mg of Endronax to my regular Prozac dose. Now I'm going through the adjustment period with this new addition, and I feel like I'm being hit by almost every common side effect: trouble sleeping, issues with urination, headaches, and erectile dysfunction. I’m hoping these things settle down eventually. I was wondering if anyone else has dealt with an antidepressant losing its kick after long-term use, forcing a switch, and if anyone could share their personal experience with Endronax?

I've been on it for about two years now and I'm super happy with it—zero side effects, and it does exactly what it's supposed to do (boosts norepinephrine)

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