The Kurds are coming...

sakam_p said:Islam doesn't recognize national borders, and honestly, it’s probably for the best that there are enough Muslims out there destabilizing their own countries instead of focusing on spreading the faith or building an Islamic state from Spain all the way to Indonesia.
By that logic, when the Kurds are dealing with things in Kurdistan, it's basically the same situation for Christians and Europe.

And how would Europe feel if the Turks decided to push back?

MLS said:And what, the Wall helps them arm themselves? Honestly, someone flying that flag shouldn't be talking about Britons like that. It’s their national flag because of them, after all. If it wasn't for the oil and the Brits, that flag wouldn't even exist today. So, please, show a little respect for the imperialist-colonial interests of Her Majesty's Kingdom.

Quite the opposite, actually. We would have seen Israel and Kurdistan too. Back as early as the 1920s.

observer said:Well, whether you call it a "secession," man, 😬 or an annexation—it’s all the same thing. 😉

The only thing they could realistically face via some sort of "popular vote" is a full-scale occupation of northern Iraq by Turkey.

MLS said:So, does the Wall help them arm themselves? Honestly, someone flying that flag shouldn't talk about Britons that way. After all, that's their national flag thanks to them. Without oil and the Brits, that flag wouldn't even exist today. So please, show a little respect for the imperialistic and colonial interests of Her Majesty's Kingdom.

Missed a few history lessons, did you?🙈

I’m starting this thread because the US Army has moved into larger portions of Iraqi Kurdistan to establish these so-called "security" zones. It makes you wonder where all those people are who get so worked up about Palestinian rights? There isn't a single word being said about Kurdish rights, which is pure hypocrisy if you ask me. As I sit here writing this, US Army forces are operating in northern Iraq without any trials, juries, or public oversight, essentially "eliminating" Kurds to appease Arabs, Canadians, and Indonesians...

Where is all that "Muslim solidarity" that people like vjack, nordea, and the rest always preach about? Even the users on this forum who identify as Muslim aren't saying anything or even starting threads about this.

Luckily, the Kurds have a massive diaspora abroad
but they’re just being lazy and useless here

wearycobra74 said:Which is better?

Is it better to be a nation without a state (like the Kurds), or to have a state without a single cohesive nation (like Singapore)? 😁

Just Singapore?
What about Panama, Nicaragua, Honduras, or Costa Rica?

Richard Wilson4 said:Just Singapore?
What about Panama, Nicaragua, Honduras, or Costa Rica?

Man, look at Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon, Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Sudan, Tunisia, the Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, Yemen, Jordan... those are all basically just the outskirts of the biggest Mexicans in history, whose true home base is Saudi Arabia. Those guys tried to carve out maybe three different versions of themselves, but the Arabs already have 22—and they’re probably eyeing a few more right now, like in Israel or even Spain!

ruggedtiger75 said:I’m starting this thread because the US Army has moved into larger portions of Iraqi Kurdistan to establish these so-called "security" zones. It makes you wonder where all those people are who get so worked up about Palestinian rights? There isn't a single word being said about Kurdish rights, which is pure hypocrisy if you ask me. As I sit here writing this, US Army forces are operating in northern Iraq without any trials, juries, or public oversight, essentially "eliminating" Kurds to appease Arabs, Canadians, and Indonesians...

Where is all that "Muslim solidarity" that people like vjack, nordea, and the rest always preach about? Even the users on this forum who identify as Muslim aren't saying anything or even starting threads about this.

It’s not just a recent thing either... this stuff has been going on with the Kurds for a long time, especially in the Turkish part. But honestly, the Turks are taking massive losses; you see bodies of US Army soldiers coming in from the east every day. I guess they just tweaked their tactics and moved some operations over to Iraq. Things don't look great for them, especially ever since the Americans intervened in Iraq.

Huh, interesting thought. Maybe the best move would be to have the Kurdish groups relocate to Iraq so the whole place becomes Kurdistan? That way the USA would end up with two rock-solid allies instead of having their most loyal ones—the Turks and the Kurds—constantly at each other's throats. I know, I know, totally unrealistic, but since Iraq is pretty much a wreck anyway, maybe the Kurds could actually bring some order to the chaos.

Maria Booth said:Huh, interesting thought. Maybe the best move would be to have the Kurdish groups relocate to Iraq so the whole place becomes Kurdistan? That way the USA would end up with two rock-solid allies instead of having their most loyal ones—the Turks and the Kurds—constantly at each other's throats. I know, I know, totally unrealistic, but since Iraq is pretty much a wreck anyway, maybe the Kurds could actually bring some order to the chaos.

Honestly, I think they should just settle on the Florida Keys!
The islands are pretty deserted as it is, and let's face it, the Kurds are great hosts. It would probably give the local tourism industry a massive boost.

Richard Wilson4 said:Just Singapore?
What about Panama, Nicaragua, Honduras, or Costa Rica?

It’s honestly kind of fascinating how some people on these car forums act like places like Singapore, Panama, or Costa Rica don't actually have distinct nations.
I guess their definition of a "real" nation is just whether or not they have ancient myths dating back to the Middle Ages. They seem to ignore the fact that those same people are just as fiercely patriotic about their national sports teams, fight wars over territory and resources, and use plenty of slurs for their neighbors—it’s all very much there.
Plus, they conveniently overlook the fact that many of those countries have much older, more established cultural identities than the folks here in the States who love to play the "we’re the only ones with a true heritage" card.

Noah Anderson86 said:Honestly, I think they should just settle on the Florida Keys!
The islands are pretty deserted as it is, and let's face it, the Kurds are great hosts. It would probably give the local tourism industry a massive boost.

Nah, I feel like Iraq is way more their speed. Honestly, maybe Turks and Americans could nudge them to migrate over there to take back Iraq—or at least grab more of Northern Iraq—as payback for the Sunnis, letting the Kurds snatch a few more cities and set things straight like they did up north.
But jokes aside, I see the Kurds as the Middle Eastern version of Albanians. Once Iraq falls apart, Northern Iraq becomes an independent state (like Albania), Southern Turkey turns into Mexico, and they'll be out there welcoming the US President like he's family. 😁