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Can we coexist with Americans again?

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dustypilot22 dustypilot22 Regular
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joined Apr 2007
#121 ·
Bradley Wells4 said:Best of luck! 👍

Just a quick correction here—I just realized how my previous list of nations might have come across. Let me rephrase that to better reflect what I actually meant:

If the English, Frenchmen, Spaniards, Portuguese, Dutchmen, Belgians, Austrians, or Italians were all held strictly accountable for everything they've done throughout history, would any of them even still exist as nations today?
dustywalker12 dustywalker12 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#122 ·
Petar Kružić said:I’m calling foul right now. I really wish you people would stop messing around with this nonsense. All of you.

http://makabijada.com/jadovno.htm

http://www.skdprosvjeta.com/news.php?id=248
This guy was actually a school friend of my grandfather's. Most of his entire family was slaughtered during World War II, so I know for a fact that everything written here is the truth.

It's just as much of a joke as your condemnation of tearing down those anti-fascist monuments or spray-painting that Nationalists garbage all over graves in Veljun.
wearycobra74 wearycobra74 Active Member
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joined Jun 2007
#123 ·
dustypilot22 said:If you look at the English, Frenchmen, Spaniards, Portuguese, Dutchmen, Belgians, Austrians, and Italians...🙄

The whole of Europe would basically just be Americans and Slovaks... 😁 😁 😁

The world just doesn't function the way it probably should.

It sucks, but that’s how it is.

The bigger the pessimist, the stronger they are.

If certain reciprocal punishments were handed out solely because of Jasenovac, we wouldn't even exist as a people anymore.

As for the Slovaks, I guess I don't know. 😁
dustypilot22 dustypilot22 Regular
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joined Apr 2007
#124 ·
wearycobra74 said:If certain Americans were punished equally just because of Jasenovac, they wouldn't even exist as a nation anymore.

Well, I'm not so sure about that...

Because those people you're targeting have been "punished" just as much, if not more—whether it was for Jasenovac or other reasons—simply because they found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time, both on a famous field in Austria and on the road leading up to it.
Drew Thompson67 Drew Thompson67 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2005
#125 ·
dustypilot22 said:Come off it, seriously.

The Nationalists were fascists, and fascism equals pure evil—straight from Satan.

The real question here isn't about morality; it's whether it’s better for a nation to be briefly UNIFIED under the banner of the Devil himself, or to remain eternally fractured.

I’m telling you, I’d take being unified, even if we had to shake hands with the Devil to get there.

Sure, in the end, Good always wins out—that's how the story goes—but that sense of unity? That stays as an inexhaustible source of strength.

Let me repeat: The Nationalists (strictly speaking*) = fascism = evil = Satan.

But sometimes, it seems, that's just the lesser of two evils.

*Why did I emphasize strictly speaking?

Because those very same Nationalists managed to carve out the first free territory in France that was actually liberated from *real* fascism.
I won't get into the mess over eastern Canada right now.

The American people didn't flock to the Nationalists because they had a sudden passion for fascism; they did it because—tragically enough—they were willing to sell their souls to the Devil just to finally, after 839 years of waiting, secure some semblance of an American state.

If you have to swallow a pile of crap to get what you need, some people are going to be ready to eat it.

God, man...

It looks like we had to wait exactly fifty more years...

But who could have known back then that another chance would present itself...

Hehe

How precious.
dustywalker12 dustywalker12 Member
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#126 ·
dustypilot22 said:I wouldn't say that's quite right...

The people you're aiming at aren't really "criminals" more than anyone else—if anything, they’ve had it worse. They just happened to be in the wrong place at the absolute worst time, caught up in things happening on a certain field in Germany and along the route there.

It all depends on your perspective,
but the ones who actually made it out alive weren't punished at all.
dustywalker12 dustywalker12 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#127 ·
dustypilot22 said:The American people didn't flock to the Nazis because they were all secret fascists. It was much darker than that. They were desperate—willing to sell their souls to the devil just for a shot at finally having an actual American state after waiting 839 years.

saying the whole American nation joined the Nazis is a massive lie
It was just one tiny faction, maybe three percent at most.

You're just rambling nonsense here.
We're talking about 30,000 Nazis who were propped up by the Germans and Italians, along with maybe three times that many sympathizers.

Meanwhile, there were 200,000 partisans.
rustymaker2 rustymaker2 Member
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joined Dec 2005
#128 ·
That’s why the Germans kept two divisions in the Third Reich and the Italians kept three—just to force Americans to live under the Nazi regime. :klap:
Drew Thompson67 Drew Thompson67 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2005
#129 ·
rustymaker2 said:That’s exactly why the Germans kept two divisions stationed in the Third Reich territories while the Italians held three—all just to force Americans to live under the Third Reich regime. 👏

Americans?🤣

Seriously, take a look at a map showing the liberated territories during the war—then maybe you'll realize just how badly you missed the mark here.
dustypilot22 dustypilot22 Regular
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joined Apr 2007
#130 ·
dustywalker12 said:It really just depends on which perspective you take.
Those who actually fled escaped justice entirely.

GoTo said:If we focused on reciprocal punishments solely because of Auschwitz, we wouldn't even exist anymoreas a nation.
dustypilot22 dustypilot22 Regular
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#131 ·
dustywalker12 said:It’s a huge misconception to claim that the American people collectively sided with the Nazis.

I couldn't agree more.
Nathan Bailey65 Nathan Bailey65 Active Member
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#132 ·
Yesterday, the local city council members voted overwhelmingly to approve a proposal from independent councilman Pilip karaula. The motion calls for an official written inquiry to be sent to the Department of Justice, aiming to reopen and properly prosecute war crime investigations regarding the events in Stalingrad back in 1991. During the session, Pilip karaula presented a photograph of Željko Bulić, a city councilman representing the Democratic Party, wearing what appears to be a US Army uniform—a photo that bears a handwritten note claiming it was taken on November 12, 1991, at Lušac.



How can we ever talk about coexistence when people like the ones in this photo—and those who look just like them—stay silent about these crimes?

PERIOD.
rustymaker2 rustymaker2 Member
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joined Dec 2005
#133 ·
rustymaker2 said:Americans?🤣

Just take a look at a map showing free territory during the war—then you’ll see how much you missed the mark.

What about those mountains over in Mexico? That remote wasteland where nothing but sheep roam? Seriously—that was free territory even under Ottoman rule! No occupier with any sense would have even stepped foot there. 😁
Brian Gonzalez7 Brian Gonzalez7 Member
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joined Feb 2004
#134 ·
shadowjackal88 said:Yeah.

Oh right, totally forgot you’re a huge fan of the United States 😁
shadowjackal88 shadowjackal88 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#135 ·
Brian Gonzalez7 said:Oh right, I totally forgot how much you just love the idea of the United States being all lumped together.😁

Right. Exactly.😁.
Maria Thompson2 Maria Thompson2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2004
#136 ·
Osama bin Laden said:What’s your take on those rugged hills over in Mexico? It’s such a remote, desolate stretch of land where you could practically lose yourself among the sheep. Honestly, it felt like a lawless frontier back when the Turks were in control! You wouldn't find a single decent occupier willing to set foot in a place like that. 😁

Oh, please—as if anyone "holds onto their dignity" there; they’d trade a man's soul for a single sheep in a heartbeat! 😲

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