Hopkins's Arrow

copperowl2:
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When exactly did you think you were going to wake me up, my friend?
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"WHY DOES THE SUN WAKE THE CHILDREN,
WHO KNOWS, WHO KNOWS, ...?"

copperowl2:
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Only when you apply these principles to yourself first will you truly become a Master.
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When YOU, seeker of truth, can at least sense that MASTERY is possible solely because the one practicing it has "applied" significantly more to themselves than what you are currently citing, only then should you attempt to converse with a MASTER on your own terms.
Until then, you are merely a seeker throwing punches into thin air.

copperowl2:
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It is then that you will realize your desire to teach others is just as much an extension "OF YOU" as everything you have been expressing, writing, and projecting from your very core.
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Look UP again, seeker of truth.

The entire "mystery you seek" is contained within your own vision. It resides within the typical, conventional human mind 🙂

."Why does the sun wake the children,
Who knows, who truly knows...?"

So just shine and stay silent. 🙂

Jose Reyes said:When you, seeker of truth, first catch even a faint hint that true mastery is actually possible—simply because the one claiming to be a master has clearly integrated far more than what you’re describing—only then should you bother talking to a Master however you see fit.
Until then, your searching is just shouting into the void.

The sentiment you're pushing sounds like something you'd hear echoing through the halls of a Baptist church, but phrased like this:

"When you, believer, first sense that faith is actually achievable precisely because the one you trust carried a cross to redeem all your sins, only then should you turn to the Lord and His servants, the clergy, as you wish. Until then, your faith is nothing but empty gestures!"

It’s the exact same thing, isn't it? Just different actors in a different movie.

My dear little dogmatist!
Let me tell you, you're wasting your breath trying to crawl into my orbit just to feed your own ego and find validation at my expense.
You aren't going to convince me of anything.
If it gives you some sort of thrill, go right ahead, but I’m telling you: don't waste your time; the idea that sustains you won't ever touch me.

I have heard enough of your brand of rhetoric to last a lifetime.
It really doesn't matter which specific idea or whose charisma is being channeled through it; they are ALL fundamentally identical, so yours certainly isn't any different.
You denounce the opposition, spit on anything that deviates from your path, and trample over anything that might disrupt your own self-validation, only to offer the world— THE VERY SAME THING wrapped up in slightly different packaging.

What a pathetic little joyride you're on! 🙄

It is only when you finally come to realize that you need me far more than I ever needed you... that you will truly grasp the very foundations upon which your expertise was built, and understand exactly where your light originates...

Elizabeth Miller8:
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Then go ahead, shine and feel it.

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The MASTER stands among you because of this RESONANCE, you Seekers of Truth.
If that is indeed the case, how exactly will one perceive this RESONANCE?
It happens when you FEEL the ecstasy, while the MASTER SHINES AND BURNS, manifesting his true essence.
That essence is LOUD, even when the MASTER SHOUTS.
To a thin-skinned seeker, the deafeningly silent MASTER is simply too loud.
The distinction lies entirely in the individual's own perception of the CHAOS.
A SILENT MASTER, or perhaps not—it’s all the same in the end.😉

redrider63:
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It’s only when you finally realize that you need me more than I could ever need you...
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After just one single realization, what other insights could a truth seeker possibly gain from a master?

"Needing" and "necessity" are merely terms belonging to a "specialized consciousness"—one that still attempts to sort through lies and truth alike.😉

copperowl2 said:😎
Go ahead and try to actually live this out in the real world; once you attempt to manifest these ideas through action, you won't feel the urge to post about them publicly ever again.
Who on this forum is actually going to take you seriously?
Who here truly understands the depth of what you’re attempting to articulate?
Those who rely solely on their narrow, limited intellect will simply mock you, while those who sense the truth with their hearts will fall into a trance, becoming obsessively attached to your ego.
The result will be a trail of enemies behind you and women screaming for you to defend them unconditionally.
Ultimately, both groups will turn on you, because you are exposing SOMETHING that strips away their arrogant logic and false emotions, revealing them to be nothing more than a basket of vacuous straw.
And make no mistake, the fury of the sleeping masses is far from harmless. 🙏

I won't truly know until I have successfully implemented this in practice. Until then, whether I speak or remain silent makes little difference... 😉

One can lie through silence just as easily as through speech; in essence, by speaking of these things, one is already engaged in a degree of self-deception. But what choice is left if there is a desire to give voice to something? How could anyone truly wish to be silent? True silence only arrives after the storm has run its course and found its resolution; everything else is merely an imitation...

When YOU, you self-righteous fanatic, finally catch even a faint glimmer of the > that true mastery is actually achievable—based solely on the reality that the one performing such feats has already "applied" far more than what you’re even capable of describing—then, and only then, can you sit down and have your little chat with the Master.
Until then, your investigative efforts are nothing more than vacuous noise.

copperowl2:
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You aren't going to convince me of anything.
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You don't even possess the slightest inkling that a genuine human connection is possible, regardless of your rigid "convictions," you dogmatic believer, copperowl2.
To someone like you, a touch is merely a cerebral expedition, you pathetic truth seeker.😉

Jose Reyes said:YOU'RE BOTH THE SAME, SO JUST SHUT IT.😉 [/B]

Well, if we’re really all just cut from the same cloth, then why don't you just sit there and look pretty, exactly like I told you to before. 🙂

It seems you haven't even begun to consider the possibility that a genuine human connection can exist outside of your rigid "convictions," your "faith," and your dogmatic little worldview, copperowl2.
To someone like you, a simple touch is nothing more than a neurological expedition, isn't it, truth seeker?😉 [/B]

I am your biggest problem.

And I plan on becoming an even greater one, because you are about to encounter things far more unsettling than anything you have encountered up to this point.

Elizabeth Miller8:
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Well, if I feel like being blunt...
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Raw SELFISHNESS simply doesn't suit a jealous truth seeker.
That kind of SELFISHNESS leads one to resent others for merely embracing their own nature.
Such SELFISHNESS deprives others of the chance to see and hear this MASTER, which clearly serves only your own interests.
Why not just hold your tongue, truth seeker? Don't bring your SMALL-SELFISH perspectives into a space you claim is "SPIRITUAL."🙂

Jose Reyes said:redrider63:
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only once you realize that you need me more than I need you...
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After that ONE REALIZATION, what other insights could a truth seeker possibly gain from a master?

The concepts of "needing" and "dependency" are merely terms belonging to a "particular consciousness"—one that still attempts to categorize truth and lies into separate piles.😉

and thus, you reach that ONE REVELATION ...
congratulations, oh great master ...

copperowl2:
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I am your greatest complication.
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Furthermore, this notion of being a "PROBLEM" falls under the category of a "special consciousness." It is that very same quality that compels both the BELIEVER, like copperowl2, and the NONBELIEVER, such as redrider63, to wander aimlessly through life forever. They find themselves drawn toward things they don't truly understand, yet remain endlessly fascinated by them.🙂

Jose Reyes said:Elizabeth Miller8:
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Well, if I feel like writing...
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Blunt selfishness simply doesn't suit a jealous truth seeker.
That kind of selfishness involves judging others for merely following their own nature.
Such selfishness robs others of the chance to see and hear this MASTER, which is clearly what you're so desperate to prevent.
Keep your tongue in check, truth seeker. Don't drag your small-selfish perspectives into a space you claim is "SPIRITUAL."🙂

Aha... so does that mean you just don't feel like writing to them the way you feel like writing to me? Maybe, maybe not—it’s easy to say. The only real question is what they actually *want* to write 😁

But people have to walk their own paths through experience... you have every right to 😉

redrider63:
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And just like that, you finally stumbled upon THAT ONE TRUTH...
congratulations, oh great master...

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Thank you, truly; this is how a conversation should be held, my fellow truth seeker.🙂

Elizabeth Miller8:
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Oh, I see... are you suggesting that everyone else should be forced to receive information in the exact same way you do, or is that just how you want it to work?
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The fundamental > is the same for everyone, you >. However, they possess every right to > consume it in whatever manner suits them best, you > non-spiritual souls.🙂

Jose Reyes said:Elizabeth Miller8:
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Oh, I see how it is... Are you suggesting that everyone else doesn't perceive things quite the way you do, or is it just that they aren't seeing what you're seeing?
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The fundamental reality remains the same for everyone, truth seeker. However, they certainly have the liberty to CONSUME it in whatever shallow, misguided ways they please—those souls lost to pure selfishness.🙂

Well, if they’re going to insist on consuming it that way, they better be prepared for the indigestion later on.😁

Jose Reyes said:redrider63:
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And just like that, you've stumbled upon THAT ONE ultimate realization...
Bravo, oh great master...

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My thanks, truly. This is how a real conversation should flow—with a true truth seeker.🙂

I will always find a reason to applaud such masterful wit.
... 😉

redrider63 said:I suppose I should always offer a nod to a master comedian, shouldn't I?
... 😉

But then again, he isn't quite the comedian he appears to be at first glance, is he?

The IDEA driving this Master pushes itself rather aggressively into the mental territory of others, and when it encounters a personality that lacks resistance—someone perhaps too suggestible or immature—it executes what we might call a sort of intellectual blitzkrieg transplantation.
In this way, the idea, or rather this specific mental construct belonging to the Master, effectively integrates itself into someone else's "lived experience."
In places where it remains unseen, these energetic transplantators swap out compatible "cells," subordinating them and tuning them to their own frequency until, after a certain period, the "candidate's" consciousness narrows entirely around this single IDEA.
Essentially, the mind undergoes a gradual calibration, preparing itself to eventually submit to the authority of one singular thought structure.

It is nothing less than a direct ATTACK on an individual's capacity for independent thought, which makes it anything but a joke.
A person loses their sense of self and morphs into a fanatic, simply because they are being steered by someone else.
This Master is certainly no exception; EVERYTHING occurring here functions in the exact same manner to tighten the noose around people's necks.
He is merely one link in that chain, and nothing more!

copperowl2 said:This guy isn't some outlier. Everything happening here works exactly the same way—it's all just designed to tighten the noose around our necks.

Honestly, does any of it even matter when we're already living as nothing more than slaves? 😢