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Elizabeth Miller8 Elizabeth Miller8 Active Member
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#121 ·
Herpes said:The very observer who is "watching" is itself just another component of this shifting, volatile "nature." If that weren't the case, they wouldn't simply vanish the moment we drift into a deep sleep!!!
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So, what’s the endgame here?

Nothing. You keep observing—you observe the observer itself—until there is absolutely nothing left to watch.

We have to make do with the reality we're handed. It’s a matter of grit: you pick up your cross, shoulder the burden, and follow my lead. 😉
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#122 ·
redrider63 🙂

Karen Sanchez19, it’s funny—whenever I actually pause, let go of what happened yesterday or what’s coming tomorrow, and just *be*... the world feels absolutely magical. 🙂 In those moments, I get this overwhelming sense that everything is exactly where it needs to be. The colors, the textures, the smells, the sounds—it’s all so vivid it’s almost intoxicating. I feel truly alive, and honestly, sometimes I think my body can barely contain all that energy. 🙂 It’s like I’m seeing through a completely different lens. 🙂 But of course, my brain always finds a way to pull me back down. Just as I start drifting toward a single thought, I’m already caught in some mental whirlwind again. 😢 Still, realizing that I can always find my way back to that headspace is a gift in itself. 🙂

I don't know, man. 🙂 Maybe the trick is just learning how to let go and soak up the present moment, no matter what form life takes. Life is such an incredible ride. Even with how fleeting and ever-changing our sense of self and the world around us can be, that core feeling of being alive never leaves you. That’s the one thing that’s always there. 🙂
copperowl2 copperowl2 Active Member
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#123 ·
redrider63 said:Every single mental framework eventually buckles under the sheer weight of existence, doesn't it? Life imposes a burden on the intellect that is often heavier than the intellect itself, forcing a raw reality into a person that no structured concept can truly contain or reconcile; one can only experience it by simply being.


There is this singular, nagging obstacle we call "illusory cooperation." 😉
It is from this very facade of cooperation that life begins to bloom, bypassing all our carefully constructed "models."
Yet, time will likely reveal that this supposed "life as it truly is" is nothing more than just another sophisticated layer of self-deception.
For someone to actually live a life unburdened by these structures, wouldn't they essentially have to do absolutely nothing at all?
Is there anyone out there actually prepared to commit to that? 🙄
Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#124 ·
I there it is again—that overwhelming sensation that everything is unfolding exactly as destiny intended. It’s almost too much; the sheer density of colors, shapes, scents, and sounds... it’s utterly captivating.

But let's be real: you can't actually grasp the present moment. By the time your senses register anything at all, it's already history.🙂 😁 😁
hollowfox38 hollowfox38 MemberOP
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#125 ·
So, I just dropped the sixth part of my Gnostica series, and there’s this specific section that touches on what I call the Doctrine of the Present Moment:

http://www.galaksija.com/gnostika6.htm

Catch you later.
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#126 ·
Karen Sanchez19 said:But you can't actually experience the present moment... because by the time your senses pick anything up, it’s already become the past.🙂 😁 😁

I’ve honestly never looked at it that way before. That is such a fascinating way to put it. 🙂
redrider63 redrider63 Member
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#127 ·
copperowl2 said:There is one significant hurdle standing in our way, and I call it "illusory cooperation." 😉
From this facade of cooperation, a certain kind of existence emerges that defies all our established "models."
However, time will eventually reveal that this supposed "spontaneous life" is nothing more than just another sophisticated model of self-deception.
In order for a person to truly live "spontaneously," they would effectively have to DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Is there anyone here actually prepared to embrace that? 🙄

For someone to reach that state—to truly do nothing at all—they must first exhaust every possible avenue. They have to push themselves to the absolute limit of their capacity, traveling to the very edges of this world. It only happens when you surrender everything you possess because there is simply nothing left to take; it occurs only when the hunger of selfishness finally consumes itself, when everything from this physical world and its nature burns away until there is nowhere left to lean, to rest, or to hide. It happens when there are no more skins to wear, no more fires to light, no more lies to tell, and no more garments of joy or sorrow to put on. When your hands become empty and everything they touch turns to void, much like the hands themselves... when all that remains within a human being is the rhythmic beat of a heart, while everything else dissolves into silence and nothingness... only then can
the River of Life ... the sole Grace ...
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#128 ·
redrider63:
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In order for a person to truly reach the point where they can—and I mean truly *do* nothing at all—they must first exhaust every single possibility available to them. They have to push themselves to the absolute edge of their own capacity, out to the very fringes of this world. Only when someone has surrendered everything they possess, once the hunger of selfishness has finally devoured itself, and when everything within this nature has burned away until there is nowhere left to lean, to rest, or to hide... only then. When there are no more masks to wear, no more fires to light, no more lies to tell, and no more garments of joy or sorrow to clothe oneself in... when the hands become empty and everything they touch dissolves into the same void that consumes them... when all that remains of a human being is the rhythmic beating of a heart amidst an infinite silence... only in that moment does there flow from the soul
The River of Life... the sole remaining Grace...
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Who exactly has been hypnotizing you, rider63, my boy?👋
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#129 ·
Karen Sanchez19:
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Chaos is nothing more than an illusion...

In fact, chaos is its own form of order. Though, I suppose the physicists will try to tear me apart for saying that.
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Don't sweat it, Karen Sanchez19. They won't touch you. They're far too convinced that you've completely lost your mind.🙂
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#130 ·
redrider63:
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...we simply lack the capacity to live according to our true nature...
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But whose nature, you dreaming son?🙂
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#131 ·
copperowl2:
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Everything you claim to be discussing is actually just a mirror reflecting your own ego!
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Who exactly is getting their thrill from this constant nitpicking, copperowl2?
Is it the one doing the writing, or the one consuming it?
And does the person supposedly "writing about themselves" truly act in the way you so aggressively "interpret" their intentions?
Where, in all this noise, does the actual truth reside?🙄 👋
copperowl2 copperowl2 Active Member
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#132 ·
Jose Reyes said:Where does the truth actually reside—within a vision?🙄 👋

Why turn that question on me when you should be asking yourself?
It isn't exactly easy to wrap one's head around the fact that those who claim to hold all the answers are often the very ones hunting for them from everyone else.
What is the actual motivation behind such behavior?
What could possibly drive someone to act this way?
Is it merely a desperate need for self-validation?
Or perhaps some grand, noble gesture of the heart?
If so, where exactly can one find it? 😬
copperowl2 copperowl2 Active Member
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#133 ·
redrider63 said:for someone to truly reach a state of doing nothing—and I mean absolutely nothing at all—they first have to exhaust every single possibility available to them, pushing themselves to the very edge of their existence and the limits of this world. It happens only when you’ve surrendered everything you possess because there is simply nothing left to take; only when the hunger of selfishness has devoured its fill, and everything from nature and the physical world has burned away until there is nowhere left to lean, to rest, or to hide. What happens when there are no more sheep to clothe, no more fires to light, no more lies to tell, or garments of joy and sorrow left to wear? When hands become empty and everything they touch turns to void, just as the hands themselves have become... when the only thing remaining within a person is the rhythm of a heartbeat, while everything else fades into silence and nothingness... only then does
the River of Life ... the sole Grace...


😎
Try actually living that out in the real world, and you might find you no longer feel the urge to write about it (publicly) ever again.
Who here is actually going to take you seriously?
Who among us even understands what you’re getting at?
Those who rely solely on their limited intellect will just mock you, while those who perceive with their hearts might fall into a trance and become tethered to your ego.
In the end, you'll find yourself surrounded by plenty of enemies and women screaming for you to defend them unconditionally.
Ultimately, both groups will end up working against you, because you are expressing SOMETHING that exposes their arrogant logic and false emotions as nothing more than an empty basket of straw.
And believe me, the anger of the sleeping is never harmless. 🙏
Elizabeth Miller8 Elizabeth Miller8 Active Member
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#134 ·
No one can truly teach anyone anything. All these self-proclaimed "Masters" and so-called experts are nothing more than charlatans. In my view, the fool is the one doing all the talking, but even more delusional is the one sitting there listening. The only real distinction is that the speaker knows they’re full of it and doesn't bother getting worked up about it anymore, whereas the listener actually walks away thinking both the lunatic and themselves are incredibly brilliant.
Elizabeth Miller8 Elizabeth Miller8 Active Member
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#135 ·
copperowl2 said:Honestly, instead of directing those questions at me, you should probably be looking inward.
It is a profoundly difficult realization to come to—that the very individuals who claim to possess all the answers are simultaneously hunting for them from everyone else.
What drives this behavior?
What is the underlying impulse behind such a contradiction?
Is it merely a desperate craving for self-validation?
Or perhaps some grand, noble gesture of the heart?
I find myself wondering where that supposed nobility actually resides. 😬

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Karen Sanchez19 Karen Sanchez19 Regular
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#136 ·
Don't sweat it, buddy. They aren't going to kill you. Why? Because they’re convinced you're an idiot.

😲

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Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#137 ·
Endless:
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·Instead of interrogating me, why don't you try looking inward?
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That little rabbit just tore right through the center of your precious "spirituality."
Whatever you say, it all stems "out of you."
Whatever you write, it’s all "out of you."
And whatever you attempt to scratch the surface of, it remains the same.

This supposed "MASTER" keeps telling the truth seeker that he "questions himself."
He would likely spend his final moments trying to guide some last spiritual soul.
Master John sees in you nothing more than an ABSOLUTE DEVOUT BELIEVER.
The kind of person who has moved past altars, yet hasn't quite mastered his own mind.
Much less the minds of those around him.
Is that not where this obsession with the "SELF" comes from? This fixation on CAUSE. A cause originating entirely FROM WITHIN.

ENDLESSE — it is high time you woke up, before a REAL MASTER decides to make an appearance.👋
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#138 ·
Elizabeth Miller8:
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The only real distinction lies in this: one individual recognizes their own madness and has ceased to be agitated by it, whereas the other remains convinced that both his insanity and his intellect are signs of profound brilliance.
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To the one who accepts their own madness, no further knowledge is required, my dear truth seeker. Only a true master of the mind operates in such a manner.
Everyone else isn't mad; they are simply human.😉
Elizabeth Miller8 Elizabeth Miller8 Active Member
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#139 ·
Jose Reyes said:Elizabeth Miller8:
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The only real distinction lies in this: one individual recognizes their own madness and has ceased to be agitated by it, whereas the other perceives both the madman and his own perceived brilliance as something profoundly significant.
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To the SOUL who understands they are MAD, no further knowledge is required, my fellow truth seeker. Only a TRUE MASTER reaches such a state through this realization.
Everyone else isn't crazy; they are simply human.😉

Well, now... yes, but only a TRUE MASTER can claim to be truly and authentically MAD.😁
As for me, I might be acting a bit wild, but I’m still keeping an ace up my sleeve, which means I haven't quite crossed over into true madness just yet 😉 (though I suppose to certain observers, I might certainly appear to be 😁)
copperowl2 copperowl2 Active Member
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#140 ·
ENLIGHTENED MASTER said:copperowl2 - it is high time for an AWAKENING, since a true master has finally decided to show up.👋


And just how exactly would you go about waking me up, my friend?

Do you honestly believe that merely grasping the theory is enough?

Whatever you say, it all comes "FROM YOU."
Whatever you write, it is again "FROM YOU."
Whatever nonsense you spout, it remains the same.

I find myself in agreement with that, and it is undeniably accurate.
HOWEVER:
When you actually apply that, FIRST AND FOREMOST, to your own being, only then will you become a true master.
A master FOR YOURSELF!
Only then will you realize that your very desire to instruct others is just as much "FROM YOU" as everything else you have uttered, written, or blathered out from your own self.

You certainly have a flair for the dramatic!
Your self-conscious EGO is quite efficient at snatching up those who are prone to attaching themselves to others, leading them to mistake this dependency—born from assimilating foreign knowledge and identifying with someone else's insights—for a spiritual path or enlightenment.
But I am not going to fall for that.
Regarding the mystery that actually interests me, you couldn't possibly know anything about it, even in your best efforts.

So, perhaps save that energy for those who actually need it. 😉
You will be wasting your breath on me, because I see right through the words.
When I look into them, I see nothing left that can satisfy me.

👋

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