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Hopkins's Arrow

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redrider63 redrider63 Member
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#161 ·
I shared my thoughts with the mentor, but I suspect he won't truly grasp my perspective...

Everything you’ve said rings true... it is simply the way things are, and there isn't much one can do about it. We are essentially confined to specific ideological spheres, each developing and shaping our personalities according to its own internal logic. You belong to one matrix, I belong to a third, and so on. Ultimately, everything boils down to a clash of ideas or the sheer weight of truth carried by a particular concept. The idea that generates a higher vibrational force will inevitably assert itself and prevail. It is entirely natural; it aligns perfectly with the maturity and lived experience of the soul. Those who possess greater depth and realization will naturally project that onto others. In that same vein, a mentor serves their purpose for someone else, regardless of whether that person disagrees or—in my case—finds them irrelevant. If a personality lacks the strength to maintain its own integrity, then it lacked strength and maturity to begin with. Most likely, you, I, and many others here are engaged in this exact same process, just within
the confines of different Ideas. Of course, everyone believes they are exempt from this, because their chosen ideology possesses its own built-in mechanisms to defend against being unmasked... but the moment you manage to momentarily detach from any single idea (if such a thing is even possible), the reality becomes clear.
No one can do anything other than live out what they inherently possess and follow the idea that offers more liberation and fulfillment than all the others. Perhaps the greatest feat a person can attempt is to feel words through their most authentic self—to locate that core and listen to it as intently as possible...
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#162 ·
truth seeker copperowl2:
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... specifically when they encounter a personality that remains undisciplined, easily led, and fundamentally immature.
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The personality itself, regardless of who it belongs to, is nothing more than "undisciplined, easily led, and immature."
Why would anyone bother trying to "transcend" such a thing if there were actually a mature personality present to begin with, copperowl2?
What possible dream could one have regarding this supposed "maturity"?
If that maturity is merely "conditional," then it isn't true maturity at all, truth seeker.
🙂
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#163 ·
redrider63:
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I told the expert exactly what I was seeing, but let's be honest—he isn't going to get it...
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Are you suggesting that some form of "understanding" can actually exist before one has fully DIVED into the TRUTH?
Or perhaps you're implying that this so-called expert hasn't even begun to DIVE into that TRUTH himself?
Whichever way you decide to spin it, you’ve got a lot more explaining to do, truth seeker.
Corav work.😉
copperowl2 copperowl2 Active Member
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#164 ·
krinka said:As if any of that matters when we’re all just cogs in the machine anyway! 😢


Even the man himself, Jose Reyes, doesn't seem to realize he isn't some grand master, but merely a servant to—let's call it—the FORCE OF IDEATION.
And this FORCE OF IDEATION arises from the energetic residue left behind by the Core as it moves through its cycles toward a new physical and spiritual manifestation.
Jose Reyes, much like so many others, acts as nothing more than a conduit through which this force pushes itself toward realization.
That force is fundamentally identical to all other mental constructs.
Behind it lies the same POWER that governs the Church, esotericism, science, and philosophy alike...
In order to empower itself, this POWER triggers a CONFLICT OF OPPOSITES within the external field of its manifestation, creating the illusion of mutual friction and intolerance.
Of course, that is entirely a fabrication.
The goal is to trick people into ALWAYS choosing the path that remains under the total supervision of this singular FORCE OF IDEATION.
By thinking they are escaping it—swapping one set of beliefs for another—people are actually just stepping into the next pre-packaged matrix.
These opposites are even being sharpened intentionally to create an even stronger impression of genuine conflict.
Man is simply lost in a sea of these contradictions, all of which ultimately lead to the exact same destination.

So, what is to be done?
One must extinguish the external lights that receive external impressions.
This is only possible for someone who finally realizes how everything here is spinning in circles, how nothing truly makes sense because everything ends up right back where it started.
To the person in whom the power of true IDEATION is born from within, the external, imposed version will reveal itself in the full glory of its false yet irresistible shimmer.
They will be able to see and feel it as it maneuvers around people—much like a master illusionist changing shapes with a skill beyond our comprehension—trying to pull them into a mental framework and dominate the collective capacity for thought, perhaps even starting in early childhood.

Anyway, let's get back to the main point. 😉
copperowl2 copperowl2 Active Member
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#165 ·
Jose Reyes said:Personality itself, regardless of who is behind it, is fundamentally "RESISTANT, SUGGESTIBLE, and IMMATURE."
Why on earth would such a "PERSONALITY" need to be "TRANSCENDED," copperowl2, if there were actually any mature personalities out there to begin with?
🙂

A mature personality is one that no longer falls under your influence—or rather, the influence of the POWER you serve.
Neither you, nor those other self-appointed priests circling around, trying desperately to appear superior or more unique than the rest of us.
A mature personality sees right through them, recognizing that they are all offering the exact SAME thing.
And they won't accept it—not because they are afraid, but because they have moved BEYOND IT; why would they consume food that no longer nourishes them?

You might still exert some influence over those who still cling to the old religious delusion—those who believe someone else can act for them, teach them, or direct their path—or perhaps over those who, due to their own inherent weakness, require guidance because they haven't reached maturity yet.
That is your clientele, Enlightened master; to them, you represent something tangible.
The imitative POWER of ideation works through you, using whatever influence you possess to transplant its mental archetypes into as many human minds as possible, attempting to control the human psyche through yet another matrix.
So, when you claim to be an "Enlightened master," I, as someone who can see just a little further than the average eye, can do nothing but laugh.
Watching how hard you try with me, I don't actually see you; instead, I see that same Power, whose thousand different masks I have encountered countless times before.
In fact, I can predict her every next move, every single bite she intends to take.
But she won't touch me.
You can project all you want; everything will simply bounce back to you, remaining within your own energetic field along with all the consequences that follow.
redrider63 redrider63 Member
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#166 ·
Jose Reyes said:redrider63:
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I opened up to the Enlightened master about what I’ve been carrying, but I already know he isn't going to grasp it...
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Are you suggesting there is such a thing as "understanding" before one has fully plunged into the Truth?
Or perhaps you are implying that this particular Master hasn't actually immersed himself in that Truth yet?
Whichever path you choose to take, be prepared to defend your logic, truth seeker.
It’s a tedious task ahead of you.😉

I have already laid everything out for you... do you really find yourself coming back to me again?
Did I not make it clear that your need for me far outweighs my need for you?
Whatever it is you are hunting for, whatever it is you think you require—you won't find it here.
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#167 ·
copperowl2:
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Does even this so-called Enlightened master realize he isn't actually a master at all, but merely a servant to—shall we call it—the POWER OF IDEATION?
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There is absolutely NOTHING left for this MASTER to be aware of, my faithful follower copperowl2.
Not even those "IDEATIONS" of yours.
So, there you have it; you’ve finally heard the truth regarding the MASTER'S lack of awareness.
Yet, your own CONSCIOUSNESS is visible to the MASTER even from the other side of the United States, truth seeker.🙂
copperowl2 copperowl2 Active Member
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#168 ·
redrider63 said:...in that same way, an Enlightened master will be useful to someone else, regardless of whether anyone thinks otherwise or if he is of any use to me specifically...

Of course he will; it isn't by accident that he carries the title of "Enlightened master."
But here is the catch:
his insights only reach a specific threshold, beyond which everything becomes absolute NONSENSE to him.
It is entirely understandable, really, given that we can only find meaning in experiences we have personally lived through and consciously processed.
How could he possibly deem something meaningful if he cannot participate in it himself, simply because it is still too early for his own progression?
The irony is that he seeks to construct an entire systemic framework based on his own limitations, attempting to aggressively impose it upon others as the sole objective truth—which is merely a sign that the darkness of the Middle Ages refuses to depart from the many human souls.
That darkness lurks here, waiting for its moment to strike, whether it chooses to manifest as a Catholic priest, a scientist who has lost his way, or some self-proclaimed guru; the vessel is irrelevant.

...but when you momentarily free yourself from any idea (if that is even possible), then you begin to truly uncover all of it...

Truth resides in the void, and the void is fullness.
I agree, but these are concepts that are quite simply impossible to discuss.
We can attempt it, certainly, but... who would ever actually understand us?
copperowl2 copperowl2 Active Member
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#169 ·
Jose Reyes said:copperowl2:
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This Enlightened master isn't even aware of any of it anymore, my dear copperowl2.
And neither are those little "ideas" of yours.

Oh, please, he's more than aware of himself!

You aren't going anywhere, ever; you'll just stay right here, hopelessly enamored with your own "ego."

Besides, how can you possibly be conscious of those forces, any more than you realize you're breathing while you breathe?
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#170 ·
redrider63 BELOW THE BELT:
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I feel like I’ve already laid it all out for you... do you really need to come crawling back again?
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You told everything to Enlightened master John before you even realized what was happening, redrider63, you absolute bottom-feeder.
Long before you started acting like an expert on the Enlightened master's terms.

If you actually want to have a real conversation with the Enlightened master, you belong in The Accomplices. You and that believer copperowl2 are barely scratching the surface of true maturity.
Perhaps your parents should drop you both off at John's Great Academy of Enlightenment tomorrow.
At eight-thirty sharp. You can sit there together. 🙂
copperowl2 copperowl2 Active Member
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#171 ·
Jose Reyes said:If you really want to have a meaningful conversation with the Enlightened master, you should be hanging out with The Accomplices. Honestly, you and that believer copperowl2 are practically on the doorstep of primordial maturity.

Well, I suppose that’s the most flattering compliment you could possibly muster.
The only real tragedy is that it still falls incredibly short of the actual truth.
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#172 ·
disguise:
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Does it even matter? We're already living as slaves anyway!
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In UNITY, there is nothing left to find, truth seeker.
In the TRANSPARENCY of all things, who is truly the robot, and who is the Demiurge?
🙂
redrider63 redrider63 Member
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#173 ·
Jose Reyes said:redrider63 is BELOW THE BELT:
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I've already told you everything... do you really need me again?
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You had already laid it all out for John before you even realized what was happening, you low-life, redrider63.
Long before you started scribbling on the Enlightened master's chalkboard.

If you want to have a real conversation with the Master, you do it within The Accomplices. You and that believer copperowl2 are barely scratching the surface of basic maturity.
Perhaps your parents should drop you off at John's Great Academy of Enlightenment tomorrow morning.
At eight-thirty sharp. You can sit there together. 🙂

you're honestly just a joke of a person...😁 👋
such a pathetic display of bullying...
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#174 ·
Ideas are everywhere, floating around us constantly, but we only actually absorb them if we’re fertile ground for them. It isn't about willpower; it’s all down to our mental makeup—our internal "software," as Parsifal likes to put it. No one can influence another person unless that person is already primed to receive that specific influence. Take people interested in Spirituality, for instance; most of them might dismiss the idea that Jesus died for our sins as a fairy tale or, at best, a metaphor. But over in the Religion forums, you'll find plenty of people for whom that concept is an absolute reality. It’s not that we have some superior, broader vision while they’ve been brainwashed—it’s just that our mental operating systems are different. Different ideas simply "take root" in different systems. Even what I’m typing right now is nothing more than an idea about ideas. 🙂 One person will find this hilarious, another will think it's nonsense, and someone else will find it totally relatable... For me, it sticks because it clearly fits my software. Every idea seems to emerge from somewhere—maybe from some realm of pure thought? 😉 They live within us for a set amount of time, and once they become redundant, they fade away to make room for something new. This isn't a choice we make, nor does it depend on our willpower. There's nothing we can do to force it. So, honestly, I don't see any reason to be afraid of anyone.
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#175 ·
copperowl2 said:So, what's the move?
Shut down those external lights that let all the outside noise leak in.
That’s only possible once you finally GRASP how this whole thing is just one big loop—how nothing actually carries weight because everything just ends up right back where it started.

But look, you can't force any of it. Not even a little bit! You can't force protection, you can't force surrender, and you certainly can't force an epiphany or acceptance... It either happens, or it doesn't. 😢
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#176 ·
disguise:
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As for my situation? It’s working perfectly fine, because clearly, my software suits her needs just fine. And ideas? They seem to emerge from god knows where—perhaps some ethereal sphere of thought?
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Let’s be clear, truth seeker: ideas don't just "arrive" to any version of "me."
There is no such thing as this "me" being separate from the "idea" itself.
And there is certainly no "software" as you claim; that "software" is simply just another manifestation of the "idea."

An "idea" encompasses everything: the spark that reaches your physical reality (your matter, your body), and the very force that allows that "physical body" to utter an "I" for the world to hear.

Furthermore, you will never truly grasp whether your physical body is actually an objective reality, or if it is merely a solipsistic projection born from that same internal "idea"—existing entirely within the confines of that very same idea, truth seeker.🙂 😎

PS. You should revisit the Enlightened master's reflection on "debt in mind" at the Great School of Enlightenment, disguise.👋
A Anonymous Veteran
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#177 ·
copperowl2 said:It makes total sense why people feel that way—we generally only find value in the experiences we’ve actually lived through and felt firsthand.
How can someone find meaning in something they haven't even touched yet, especially if they feel they aren't ready for it?

But is there any other way to get that kind of experience besides just waiting around until life drags us there? Is there a different path?
A Anonymous Veteran
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#178 ·
The ENLIGHTENED MASTER said:In Oneness, there is absolutely NOTHING left, Seeker of Truth.
Within the TRANSPARENCY of all things, who is the machine, and who is the Creator?
🙂

What good is any of this to me if I can't actually feel it? It’s just like that story from Endless about fullness and emptiness. They're all just interesting concepts, but if I can't live them—if they don't become my reality—then what's the point? 😢
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#179 ·
Karen:
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How exactly does one gain that kind of experience? Is there really no way to achieve it other than just waiting until we are all being led away there? Isn't there some other path?
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When this Master tells you that you can "only be led there," he’s essentially offering a sedative to soothe your "spiritual" complacency, Truth Seeker.
Where exactly is anyone being "led" to?
Either you are deluded, or Master Raman is just as misguided as this Master here.
If that is what lies "THERE," then everything we are currently experiencing cannot possibly be "OUR HOME." How can that be possible, Karen?

The only thing that is actually going to happen to you—something quite similar to your supposed "being led away"—is that you will find yourself losing interest in certain "things." A black hole in the mind essentially means
a draft in the middle of a battle.
Black holes are entirely unreliable phenomena, yet they consume everything in their vicinity. Even the very fabric of cause and effect will be devoured, Truth Seeker.
😎 🙂
Jose Reyes Jose Reyes Active Member
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#180 ·
Karen:
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What exactly am I supposed to gain from them?
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John’s GREAT SCHOOL OF ENLIGHTENMENT isn't here to force some arbitrary set of "knowledge" or manufactured "feelings" upon you.
Rather, its purpose is to safeguard your mental well-being when you find yourself plummeting into an
unfathomable abyss.
If you refuse to accept even a single helpful thought now, don't be surprised when you face the overwhelming reality of the "afterlife."
Wouldn't it be better to see smiling faces surrounding you, instead of feeling like you're dying, Truth Seeker?🙂

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