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Alternative medicine: thoughts?

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Participants Gerald Young4Rebecca Cox2gentlecanyon92hiddenviper9Kate Diazferalharbor2nimblecobra79Alex Rogers96restlesseagle15Sarah Cruz2velvetpilot212Jonathan Brooks8
restlesseagle15 restlesseagle15 Member
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#21 ·
hiddenviper9, just how much longer am I actually going to be around? come on, give it to me straight... please...
gentlecanyon92 gentlecanyon92 Active Member
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#22 ·
Rebecca Cox2 said:And then what?

What problems were we talking about exactly, and how did they disappear, if you don't mind my asking? This kind of vague testimony is typical for alternative medicine...

Fine, here it is...

I had some digestive issues during a trip—cramps, let's just say I had to run to the restroom x times. 🙂 We didn't know the cause; doctors blamed motion sickness or something. It didn't stop even after two weeks, and all my tests came back normal. A bioenergy practitioner figured out it was food poisoning from two weeks prior (he identified it himself; we didn't tell him anything, nor did I mention exactly when the symptoms started, so he nailed it). He said I had bacteria in my small intestine and that he would fix it, telling me to CALL him again if it returned... but it never came back. Everything has been fine since that day.

I was healed while sitting on my couch watching TV. The cost? $0.00..

There are more examples... exact timing, total recovery. If you want, I can write more.
hiddenviper9 hiddenviper9 Active Member
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#23 ·
Yeah, gentlecanyon92, you’ve actually visited a healer who operates on the exact same—if not perhaps an even higher—vibrational level as I do.
In fact, if he were to read what I’m about to post, he’d see himself reflected in these words.

"...But alternative medicine isn't a silver bullet for everyone.
That's easily the biggest reason why so many people remain skeptical about the possibility of healing through non-traditional methods.

Just two quick notes here.
1. Don't let the new concepts or terminology in this book throw you off; everything fresh you encounter will be explained in detail, if not immediately, then later on.
2. The following text isn't some sales pitch!
To be clear, I’ve been treating people for free since 1988, and I still do (though only in truly exceptional cases).

The simple realization that a huge number of people aren't finding relief through alternative medicine—or even conventional medicine—is exactly what drove me to start studying the human condition alongside my work with patients.
I should mention that throughout these studies, I have utilized quartz mountain crystals to assist in my healing work. (Image 5)
Beyond that, those crystals have allowed me to achieve incredible conscious out-of-body experiences.
Ultimately, through the use of crystals, I’ve uncovered answers that go far beyond healing people—answers that might fascinate professionals in almost any scientific field.

Since my entire journey of discovery began with healing others, I’ll start by sharing some of the insights I've gained during that evolution.
As for the healing itself—I approach it quite differently than most people do.
FIRST,
during our conversation and before we even begin, I introduce the patient to "a completely new version of themselves"—(which you'll be able to conclude from the information following this).

SECOND,
(some might find this hard to believe), years of practice have allowed me to use my palms and my thoughts during examinations.
Essentially, by placing my hands on specific areas of a patient's body, I use my mind to seek information from the ailing cells—locating the hotspots of disease and the energetic blockages that prevent vital bioenergetic impulses from reaching living cells.
Additionally, through the area of the "third eye" (the "frown point"), I am able to mentally visualize—much like a doctor uses an X-ray—an "image" where dark spots or blemishes mark the locations of diseased cells.
(This method has yielded extraordinary results for both diagnosing and treating illnesses).
Once I locate those dark spots or blemishes, I mentally illuminate them with light—similar to how those diseased cells would react to laser beams.

An American healer, Dean Koontz, works in a similar way (just without the crystals), often collaborating with American medical professionals.
I mention him because a fascinating film was made about him in 1999, originally titled "A Touch of Hope."
There is so much interesting insight to be drawn from that film regarding alternative ways of healing.

However, I have to admit that I’ve stepped away from treating the public (with the exception of my inner circle).
The reason is that lately, I’ve noticed certain symptoms manifesting in myself that were present in the patients I treated.
My autonomic nervous system became so sensitive that it began registering many of my patients' ailments as if they were "my own diseases."
(You’ll understand this better once you read the upcoming sections).
To be fair, these issues were less intense than what the patients experienced and passed quickly, but they certainly weren't pleasant..."
gentlecanyon92 gentlecanyon92 Active Member
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#24 ·
hiddenviper9 said:Exactly, gentlecanyon92. You’ve been seeing a bioenergetic healer who operates at the same level—if not higher—than I do.
In fact, if he were reading this post, he’d recognize himself in these words immediately.

Maybe. I’ve never actually met my healer; he lives thousands of miles away...

And yet, there I go again. Healed once more. 🙂
gentlecanyon92 gentlecanyon92 Active Member
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#25 ·
Kate Diaz, let me tell you one thing.. 🙂

I truly believe there’s so much more to this world than what we simple folks can actually see or even want to acknowledge. At the end of the day, every legend, claim, or myth started from some kernel of truth. It isn't surprising that alternative medicine—just like any other field—has its share of frauds. Why be shocked when people try to turn a profit? That goes for every trade and profession out there, including medicine. How many scammers can you count off right now? Just because some people are trying to con others doesn't mean alternative medicine itself is a scam.

So, don't go losing faith just yet; there are definitely those who actually know what they're doing and have genuine connections to it...
Rebecca Cox2 Rebecca Cox2 Active Member
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#26 ·
Alright, I’ll jump back into the conversation for a bit...

gentlecanyon92 said:I truly believe there is so much more to this world than what we, as humans, are simply capable of seeing—or perhaps, what we even want to see.

You don't even have to believe it; it’s just a fact. The world is an incredibly complicated place. It is nearly impossible for one tiny fraction of existence—the human race—to truly grasp even a single general principle behind such an ultra-complex mechanism. Can we really expect to understand the gears turning beneath it all?

gentlecanyon92 said:At the end of the day, every claim, every legend, or any myth ever told was built upon some fundamental truth...

Or they're just plain false. That’s a massive mistake so many people in alternative circles and religious communities make. Just because something has been labeled a "legend" doesn't mean it actually happened. Look at all those urban legends floating around the internet—some might have a kernel of truth, but plenty are nothing more than pure fiction.

gentlecanyon92 said:Isn't it obvious that alternative medicine—just like every other industry in this world—has its share of frauds? Why should we be surprised when people look for any way to turn a profit? Whether you’re looking at manual trades, corporate jobs, or even medical practices, isn't it true that there are always those looking to exploit others for financial gain? How many dishonest professions can you name off the top of your head where people actively try to scam their neighbors? At the end of the day, a few bad actors doesn't mean alternative medicine itself is synonymous with dishonesty.

It’s not just that alternative medicine often serves as a convenient cover for shady businesses; it's their terminology that really gives them away. They lean heavily on quasi-scientific jargon, clearly attempting to manufacture an air of legitimacy. Isn't it obvious? They are desperately trying to position themselves as equals to orthodox, mainstream medicine.

We also need to point out that what we call mainstream medicine today was once dismissed as "alternative." It wasn't until it started delivering significantly better results than "miracle tonics" or "exorcising evil spirits" that it was finally accepted as the real deal.

gentlecanyon92 said:Why should we ever stop believing that there are people out there who truly know? There are those who possess genuine, direct connections to the source... shouldn't we hold onto that possibility?

We need to base our conclusions on hard evidence and measurable data, rather than relying on anecdotal accounts of miraculous healings. People can be deceptive, whether they are intentionally lying, falling victim to self-delusion, or simply experiencing a natural recovery. After all, if you have a common cold, it’s going to clear up regardless of whether you take an aspirin, some homeopathic water, or absolutely nothing at all. Why trust a story when the facts tell a different tale?

I mean, there’s a reason alternative medicine is still labeled "alternative" even fifty years after its supposed comeback. Is it just me, or does it feel obvious? There simply isn't any real, unbiased evidence that these methods work on anything other than the placebo effect.
gentlecanyon92 gentlecanyon92 Active Member
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#27 ·
Rebecca Cox2 said:Or outright lies. That’s a massive blunder both alternative practitioners and believers make. Just because something is labeled a legend doesn't mean it actually happened. Look at all those urban legends floating around the internet. Some have a kernel of truth, but plenty are pure fiction...

I'm not saying every legend is absolute truth—quite the opposite. But I am saying some things are partially fabricated, mixed with a grain of something that actually occurred. People tend to exaggerate...

Rebecca Cox2 said:It isn't just that alternative medicine is often synonymous with scammers; their terminology is quasi-scientific, clearly designed to mimic legitimate institutions so they can be viewed as equal to orthodox or conventional medicine.

One should also note that what we call conventional medicine today was once considered "alternative." It was only accepted as the "real thing" once it started producing results vastly superior to "miracle tonics" or "exorcising evil spirits."

But modern medicine isn't built on miracle potions either; it's based on chemicals that ultimately come from nature. All of this had its roots in what was then called alternative medicine. Nothing here is new. We simply have to work with what we have...

Rebecca Cox2 said:One should trust evidence and data, not anecdotal accounts of healings. People lie, they delude themselves, or they simply experience a self-limiting recovery (like a common cold—it passes whether you take an aspirin, homeopathic water, or nothing at all)...

I mean, there's a reason alternative medicine is still "alternative" fifty years after its recent resurgence. There is simply no unbiased, empirical evidence that these methods work for anything other than the placebo effect.

Yes, I know, and I agree with you. I already said it: people shouldn't believe everything, and there will always be those who exploit others' misfortunes... you said it, I said it... it's true...
But I maintain that there is something to alternative medicine. Maybe not every method is effective, and maybe there aren't any real healers out there claiming to be, but we are here to navigate life and decide for ourselves whom to trust...

Compare it to buying a car or anything else in daily life. You look at a car and it looks good, but how do you know if the dealer is trying to rip you off or if the car is actually solid? You only know once you check the specs, the components, and test drive it. If it's good, I'll take it. And yes, the dealer can certainly scam you...

If a bioenergy practitioner heals me and the people standing next to me in a matter of minutes, then obviously, I'm going to believe it, even if it was just a coincidence. 😕

My old man didn't believe in this kind of healing, but even he was talked into trying it because conventional ways weren't working... I think he believes in it a bit more now...

I can't prove it to you until you try it yourself; that's impossible and pointless. We are all skeptics of that.🙂
Rebecca Cox2 Rebecca Cox2 Active Member
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#28 ·
Kate Diaz said:Actually, there’s another side to this coin. People are feeling let down by mainstream medicine and traditional science. Someone convinced them—sold them on the idea—that science could answer every single question and map out the entire universe, and that one day, medicine would cure every ailment on Earth. In short, people expected science to usher them straight into the gates of paradise. They waited and waited, but that promised paradise never arrived. And now? It’s becoming impossible to explain to them that science isn't omnipotent, nor will medicine eventually wipe out all disease.

Spot on. And honestly, the exact same thing applies to technological advancement (where science plays a massive role too). People feel just as abandoned there. I still remember back in the early '80s, they were preaching about technological breakthroughs and how by the year 2000, nobody would have to work at all—robots would handle everything while we just enjoyed ourselves. Can you imagine what those predictions looked like in the '50s or '60s?

Fast forward to today, and not only are people working harder than ever, but you even hear voices from those very same scientists arguing that constant growth—of anything, including the economy—might be unsustainable, or that we need to pivot our focus toward environmental issues and such...

I suspect a huge part of this stems from the fact that scientific findings and conclusions, based on current evidence, now clash much more sharply with what other "authorities" (like tradition or religion, for instance) tell us—namely, that humans were created in God's image and hold a special, central place in the universe...

Kate Diaz said:People have always been mesmerized by miracles, and they've always followed those who claim to perform them. So, it’s hardly surprising that alternative movements have such devoted followers.

Exactly. It’s that classic "outlier effect"—we tend to notice and remember the events or phenomena that "stand out" or differ from the norm (a virgin birth is perhaps the ultimate example).

Kate Diaz said:The biggest issue is that in most cases, we aren't even talking about miracles; it's just one big deception, a lie, a utopia, or an illusion.

True. But proving that to people who believe in miracles is an uphill battle. Personally, I love the Dawkinsian parable about the man who believed tiny little people lived inside the TV and were actually creating the images. When a group of engineers explained electrons, cathode ray tubes, and signal transmission to him, he just nodded contentedly and said, "Fantastic! Now I truly understand how a TV works. But there must still be a few little people inside somewhere, right?"
Kate Diaz Kate Diaz Member
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#29 ·
gentlecanyon92 said:Alright, here goes...

I had some major digestive issues during a trip—lots of cramping and I had to run to the restroom constantly.🙂 We couldn't figure out the cause, and doctors just chalked it up to motion sickness or something similar. It didn't let up even after two weeks, despite all my tests coming back perfectly normal. Eventually, a bioenergetic practitioner identified that it was actually food poisoning from two weeks prior. He pinpointed it himself without us giving him any clues; he didn't even know when my symptoms first started, yet he hit the nail on the head. He told me there were bacteria in my small intestine and said he would clear it out, advising me to call him again if the symptoms returned. Well, they haven't. Everything has been fine since that day.

I was healed just sitting on my couch watching TV. The cost? $0.00...

There are plenty of other examples too... exact timing, full recovery... I can write more if you'd like.

Well, that’s all well and good. If believing in something truly helps you, then there isn't really an issue there.

However, how can you be certain it was specifically HIM—the practitioner—who helped? Personally, that might not matter much to you; the bottom line is that you feel better. But you shouldn't claim with certainty that his specific methods were the cause or that you've proven his efficacy.

It is entirely possible that the illness simply ran its course and your immune system won the battle on its own. In that scenario, you're essentially attributing your recovery to the practitioner simply due to the timing of events.

On the other hand, we shouldn't overlook the massive psychosomatic impact of the placebo effect. If you went into the session with a profound, unshakable belief that this person would help you, that psychological conviction can trigger a physiological improvement. This phenomenon is widely recognized in mainstream medicine and is even utilized in therapeutic settings.

Determining whether a method is truly effective or justified is a bit more complex than relying on anecdotes or highlighting successful cases while ignoring the failures. One has to weigh successes against the total number of attempts. Unfortunately for bioenergetic practitioners, when you apply a systematic approach to testing their success rates, it often becomes clear that their "miracles" are merely coincidences driven by the placebo effect.

What truly bothers me isn't that people seek help from alternative healers, but rather the boastful and aggressive behavior of some of them. Their self-promotion and claims of curing cancer or a million other ailments that conventional medicine supposedly can't touch is nothing more than a lie, an illusion, and a deception. It’s playing with human emotions—a scam, and at the very least, one of the most morally reprehensible forms of manipulation. It’s like trying to sell someone a lump of dirt by claiming it's gold, based solely on the fact that you happened to find one tiny speck of gold inside that dirt.
Kate Diaz Kate Diaz Member
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#30 ·
gentlecanyon92 said:Modern medicine isn't some magic trick; it’s built on miracle tonics and chemicals that ultimately originate from nature itself. All of this was rooted in what we used to call alternative medicine back then. Nothing is truly new here—we simply have to make do with the tools we have available...

The fundamental difference is that those "miracle tonics and chemicals" undergo rigorous testing. Their efficacy is scrutinized, revealing that in a statistically significant majority of cases, these substances actually treat specific ailments. Furthermore, researchers have uncovered the mechanism of *how* those chemicals work. That is a crucial distinction, even if it isn't the most important one. Beyond just establishing the fact that a compound works, we must understand the process behind its function.

Bioenergeticists, on the other hand, don't subject themselves to that kind of scrutiny. Their "certification" is often nothing more than cherry-picking a handful of success stories out of a vast sea of failures. Such behavior is essentially misleading the public. It's akin to me claiming my car is incredibly reliable just because it managed one successful trip from Chicago to St. Louis. I'm conveniently leaving out the fact that it broke down a dozen times on the way to Nashville or Miami.

It's like buying a car or anything else in everyday life; you look at it and see a good vehicle, but how can you know if the dealer is trying to scam you or if the car is genuinely solid? You only find out once you check its specs, the components, and take it for a test drive. If it's good, it's good, and you buy it. But of course, a seller can still deceive you...

The reality is that you haven't actually tested (or even looked at) most cars, have you? Just because ten cars in a dealership run perfectly doesn't mean that specific model is reliable. You could only make a claim like that after inspecting hundreds of vehicles from the same manufacturer.

Look, none of that really matters in the end. If you believe someone might be taking advantage of you, well, that's your prerogative. If it makes you feel better, then fine.

But it still bothers me when proponents of alternative medicine act so self-righteous. There is a parallel in the Catholic Church. People believe that Lourdes-related water heals through faith in God. They regularly travel to Lourdes to drink that water. For some, they feel better; for others, they don't. In that context, it is entirely a matter of faith. No one thinks to scientifically verify if the water is actually miraculous, and the Church itself doesn't make such a clinical claim.
gentlecanyon92 gentlecanyon92 Active Member
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#31 ·
Kate Diaz said:Look, it's fine. If believing in this actually helps you, then there isn't a problem.

But how do you actually know it was HIM—the energy healer—who did the work? Personally, it might not matter much to you; all that matters is that you got better. But you can't claim he definitely provided the cure or that you're certain of his efficacy.

It is entirely possible your illness simply ran its course, or that your own immune system won the fight. You just happened to credit the energy healer by sheer coincidence.

On the other hand, we shouldn't ignore the massive psychosomatic impact of the placebo effect. If you believed that this healer would help, and you were deeply convinced of it, that psychological effect can be powerful enough to trigger actual physical improvement. That phenomenon is widely recognized in medicine and is even utilized for therapeutic purposes.

Impossible..
I know he helped because the problem vanished right at the moment he was treating me—and that has happened more than once..
And I know I wasn't just influencing it, because the first time I didn't even believe in it, and a few times I didn't even know (I was watching TV, had no clue he was even treating me at that moment) ..

Besides, when an energy healer cures someone of a months-long illness even when that person doesn't believe in any of this, how can you say it's not happening..

If it is a coincidence, I'll keep repeating it as long as he's healing people.😉

Kate Diaz said:Determining whether a method is actually effective or justified is a bit more complex than just listening to hearsay or highlighting individual success stories. You have to weigh those successes against the total number of attempts. Unfortunately for energy healers, when you apply a systematic approach to testing their success rate, it becomes clear that their "wins" are often nothing more than pure coincidence driven by the placebo effect.

I don't know what specific coincidences need to align or if there's some distinction between what they can and cannot heal, but I know that for certain cases, it is possible..

Kate Diaz said:What really bothers me isn't that people seek help from alternative practitioners, but rather their obnoxious and aggressive behavior. Their self-promotion and the way they "prove" themselves by citing successful cases where they supposedly cure cancer or a million other ailments that conventional medicine can't touch is nothing but a lie, an illusion, and a deception. It’s playing with people's emotions; it's a scam, and at the very least, it's the most morally bankrupt form of manipulation. It’s like selling a lump of dirt as gold and claiming it's precious just because you found one tiny speck of gold inside that dirt.

Again, I am warning you that there are both real ones and frauds... I have never personally encountered anyone aggressive or even advertising themselves at all....
gentlecanyon92 gentlecanyon92 Active Member
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#32 ·
Did I actually mention the price? It seems you all missed that part of my posts..

So, we’ve already established that people get sucked into scams because of the money...

And this guy is going to heal me (and them) for $0.00... I have zero expenses involved, and he isn't making any material gain from it either...

Therefore, does it even make sense for him to do this for free unless it's actually the truth?
nimblecobra79 nimblecobra79 Member
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#33 ·
hiddenviper9 said:nimblecobra79: hiddenviper9, what about sin?

hiddenviper9:
First off, we actually need to answer one basic question: What even is sin?
Because honestly, it’s not everything the church tries to force us to label as such.

So, go ahead—tell me which specific sins you think would cause cells to be damaged.
But don't you dare bring up "church sins"—for instance, loving someone else's wife isn't a sin according to the laws of Nature.
It's not even against God's law.

So, which sins are we talking about?

Sin is anything that causes harm to any living being.
Sin is whatever goes against life itself.

At the end of the day, it's not really about what we do, but how we do it—you know,
whether we're acting out of love and respect or pure hatred and contempt (toward anyone or anything).

It's a simple example—it's not the same thing if someone hits you to help you (those situations exist) versus hitting you out of sheer spite.
The strike itself isn't the point; it's the message behind it—the thoughts (the energy) are what actually matter.
Sarah Cruz2 Sarah Cruz2 Member
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#34 ·
Last weekend, I attended an event hosted by a Croatika esotericist, and the whole experience was quite intriguing. Aside from the fact that I had to step outside several times to get some air—partly due to the heat and partly because of this intense pressure I was feeling—I started experiencing stomach pains, to the point where I could barely make it home. Once I got through the door, I went straight to the bathroom, and something rather curious happened. In addition to catching up on all the latest gossip in the Globe 😁 😁, there came a moment when I felt this warmth radiating from my stomach area (I realized later that this is where the heart chakra is located). It felt like a sort of current, as if energy was flowing out of me, perhaps a type of cleansing? Anyway, once I stepped out of the tub, the pain had vanished.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

At the fair, I spoke briefly with a psychic, but that was about it; I mostly just wandered the booths. Do you think there might be some connection between that interaction and what I felt?

hiddenviper9, would it be possible for you to read my energy via email and help me identify what the issue might be? Also, what is your perspective on hexes—do you believe they actually exist and hold power? Furthermore, what are your thoughts on the pricing of these services? Do you agree with gentlecanyon92 that if there is a fee involved, it should be considered acceptable? I wonder, does something that lasts only a single weekend and costs $0.53 qualify as actual therapy, or is it more of a scam? (It was upwards of $250, I believe.)
velvetpilot212 velvetpilot212 Active Member
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#35 ·
Sanja 😳) said:In your opinion, why are people turning more and more toward alternative medical treatments? What are your reasons, assuming you've personally tried any of them?

I guess it's because mainstream medicine tends to just scratch the surface of a problem rather than actually digging into the root cause. Plus, let's face it—people today have way too much downtime on their hands. They don't really know what to do with themselves, so they start looking around for something to fill the void, or maybe they're just looking for ways to spend their time. And of course, there are advertisements everywhere. Advertisements, advertisements, advertisements.
That's basically it... that's why.
Sarah Cruz2 Sarah Cruz2 Member
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#36 ·
Honestly, advertisements can actually make me hungry. I think there’s a new campaign running for McDonald's right now; I can't quite recall when I last ate there, but since this specific ad started airing, I’ve already been there three times.

I suppose people find it difficult to manage their time effectively because:
- they simply don't have the right information about what's available
- they lack the necessary funds
- they don't have much of a social circle
- they lack the courage to change

And what do they do instead? They just sit there watching television... it's truly a disaster!

I guess maybe only Vrdoljak and I are brave enough to argue that we should ban all those kinds of movies, as they essentially corrupt the youth and present them with such a distorted view of reality.....
Kate Diaz Kate Diaz Member
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#37 ·
gentlecanyon92 said:If it’s just a coincidence, I’m going to keep leaning into it as long as it keeps working as a cure.😉

Exactly. Does it really matter if it's a coincidence or not? Is he actually providing healing or not? If believing this makes you feel better, then that's perfectly fine by me.

I don't know all the specific coincidences or circumstances that have to align, or where the line is drawn between what can be healed and what cannot, but I do know that in certain cases, it is possible...

It is fascinating how seemingly impossible things can happen with relative ease. How events that look impossible at first glance can manifest—events that are purely accidental and require a massive chain of other random occurrences to align. So, what does a person do when that happens? Because an event has such a low mathematical probability, we tend to assign it much more weight, labeling it a miracle or something supernatural. In reality, there isn't necessarily anything miraculous or paranormal about the mechanics of the event itself.

A few months ago, Scientific American published an article examining the frequency of "miracles" in human lives through the lens of statistics and probability. The study suggested that, on average, a person experiences a "miracle" once every two weeks to once a month. For the sake of the study, a "miracle" was defined as an event with a 1-in-a-million chance of occurring—roughly the same odds as hitting a major jackpot on a lottery ticket.

So, essentially, you experience a "miracle" comparable to winning the lottery about once a month.😁
Kate Diaz Kate Diaz Member
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#38 ·
Sarah Cruz2 said:I visited the Croatika esotericist fair last weekend, and the whole thing was quite intriguing. Aside from stepping outside a few times to get some air—partly due to the heat and partly because of the pressure I felt building up—my stomach started acting up, and honestly, I could barely make it home. As soon as I walked through the door, I jumped straight into the tub, and something interesting happened. While catching up on all the latest gossip in Globe 😁 😁, I suddenly felt this warmth radiating from my solar plexus area (which I later realized is where the heart chakra is located). It felt like a flow, almost as if an energy was being released from within me, like some sort of cleansing process? Anyway, once I got out of the bath, the pain was completely gone.

Does anyone have any thoughts?

I certainly do. Why wouldn't you conclude that the various scents and smells at the fair caused those stomach issues? Then, when you got home and settled into the bath, the warm water acted as a relaxing, therapeutic agent for your stomach, which is why the pain subsided. After all, it’s common knowledge that warm water dilates capillaries and helps soothe cramped muscles with heat....

I mean, you can choose to believe in psychics and all sorts of mumbo jumbo, or you can believe that warmth in your abdomen has nothing to do with the supernatural...

hiddenviper9, is there a way for you to read my energy via email and pinpoint what my issue is? What is your take on hexes—do they actually exist and work? Also, what do you think about charging high prices for these services? Do you think if there's a fee involved, as gentlecanyon92 suggests, then it's acceptable? Does something that lasts just one weekend and costs $0.53 count as therapy or a total rip-off? (Over $200?)

Hold on a second, do you seriously believe that? Look, it’s one thing to believe in bioenergy practitioners and "higher" energies—that still makes sense to me. But believing that someone can read your energy through an email? Give me a break!!!

As for those dropping $200 on these scams, they can only blame themselves; they were conned...

And you’ve certainly found the right person to ask. hiddenviper9 is currently a bit preoccupied with an interview involving alternative types from planet Quadro in the Andromeda constellation...

God bless, hiddenviper9 👋
Kate Diaz Kate Diaz Member
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#39 ·
velvetpilot212 said:because medicine only addresses the surface level rather than tackling the actual root cause,

I’ve honestly never been able to wrap my head around this argument. No matter how much I try to follow the logic, I just can't get behind the idea from homeopaths and similar groups who claim that modern medicine only treats symptoms instead of causes. It makes me wonder—if that's the case, what exactly is medicine actually doing, if anyone can tell me?

Think about it this way: if you are hit by a tuberculosis infection, you treat it with antibiotics designed to kill the bacteria itself—which is the direct cause. You don't just suppress a fever or take some cough syrup and call it a day...
velvetpilot212 velvetpilot212 Active Member
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#40 ·
Kate Diaz said:I’ve honestly never been able to wrap my head around this argument. No matter how much I try to process it, I just can't get behind the logic used by homeopaths and those other folks who claim modern medicine only treats symptoms rather than causes. I mean, if that's true, what exactly does medicine deal with? Someone please enlighten me.

If you get hit with TB bacteria, you treat it with drugs designed to kill that specific bacterium—you address the actual cause. You don't just suppress a fever and chug some cough syrup and call it a day...

Of course.
If you're dealing with tachycardia, you'll just pop some Lexapro or take those little yellow pills. That’s "medicine" for you.

Meanwhile, alternative medicine will try to tell you *why* you have tachycardia in the first place. They'll claim that through their methods, you'll become aware of your emotional voids, your deep-seated issues, or past traumas. According to them, once you resolve those emotional struggles, the tachycardia will simply vanish. That's the pitch, anyway.

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