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The Partisans are on the hunt again

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silenthawk11 silenthawk11 Regular
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#21 ·
Chloe Palmer2 said:I’ve always felt they should have pushed harder during negotiations. Honestly, Marshall would have handed over half of the Midwest if he felt like it; he didn't care much about its interests anyway.

I remember when Andrew Hebrang stood his ground against splitting the Midwest away from the South—he ended up paying for it with his life.

Then, of course, they just branded him a traitor to the cause. 😉
crimsonorca86 crimsonorca86 Active Member
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#22 ·
Chloe Palmer2 said:I honestly think they should have pushed for more. I mean, if you look at how things went down, Marshall probably would've handed over half of Rovacka anyway, since he couldn't have cared less about that part of the country to begin with.

I mean, come on, give me a break here—how is a thirteen-year-old kid supposed to know what they're even fighting for when they haven't even hit puberty yet? Seriously, how can you expect someone that young to have any clue about the weight of these issues when they're still basically kids?
It’s funny how people always talk about how certain groups were out there dreaming of building some massive, sprawling empire, when in reality, all they were actually craving was a good old-fashioned backyard BBQ with some tender lamb and fresh spring onions, don't you think?
Chloe Palmer2 Chloe Palmer2 Regular
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#23 ·
crimsonorca86 said:Come on, please. A thirteen-year-old barely even understands himself, let alone why he’s fighting.
It's just like how some people claim others were dreaming of territorial expansion when they were really just dreaming of a good steak dinner.

Whether he knew what he was doing or not, he held the rifle. I suppose I can't say for certain if he actually pulled the trigger.
silenthawk11 silenthawk11 Regular
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#24 ·
crimsonorca86 said:Come on, give me a break; a thirteen-year-old hasn't even hit puberty yet, let alone understood the complexities of political struggle.
It is much like how certain people claim their neighbors dream of territorial expansion when, in reality, they are just dreaming of a backyard barbecue.

Long live zivjeti drug Fumic!!! At just 12 years old!

😁 😁
Nathan Bailey65 Nathan Bailey65 Active Member
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#25 ·
I’m in complete agreement that we need to level the playing field here, because that’s how

1. we ensure they undergo a full audit every two years to verify their combat status—not to mention a rigorous review of disability claims.
2. Two witnesses and a handshake? That era needs to end. They should be required to provide actual hard documentation and paper trails.
3. Once those audits are complete, pensions should be adjusted downward where necessary, and those occupying subsidized housing illegally should be evicted.
4. Finally, legitimate veterans will actually get the housing they deserve, and nobody will be able to disrespect them anymore.

It isn't just empty talk; you don't demand something unless you truly intend to see it happen.
silenthawk11 silenthawk11 Regular
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#26 ·
Nathan Bailey65 said:I am in complete agreement that we need to level the playing field, because if we do, then

1. they will undergo an audit every two years to verify their combat status, not to mention disability claims.
2. Two witnesses and a verbal account won't cut it anymore; they will be required to provide actual paperwork and documentation.
3. Following these audits, pensions will be reduced and people will be evicted from subsidized housing.
4. Finally, our veterans will receive the housing they deserve, and no one will ever be able to disrespect them again.

I don't say these things without reason; I'm not asking for things that aren't rightfully earned.

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goldenbear3 goldenbear3 Newcomer
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#27 ·
Michael Sullivan3 said:Interesting. These partisans want money—not that the Germans didn't call them "bandits" for a reason. It’s almost as if they haven't already taken enough over the last fifty years.

But what about the criminals who served in their ranks? If we rounded up a dozen of them and sent them to The Hague, would they finally forgive Ante Gotovina?

And what exactly do you know about those partisans? Absolutely nothing.

Not only do those partisans deserve equal pensions, but they should actually get more than these crooks and fake veterans from the '91 era.🙂
ironbadger31 ironbadger31 Active Member
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#28 ·
goldenbear3 said:And what do you actually know about the resistance fighters? Absolutely nothing. Zip. Nada.

It’s not even just about them getting equal pensions—honestly, they deserve way more than those scammers and fake veterans who were looting everything back in '91.🙂

Yikes, took you long enough to come up with that one... ☕

Alright, consider this your final warning, because from here on out... Chaos! 👋
Chloe Palmer2 Chloe Palmer2 Regular
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#29 ·
Maybe five minutes left 😁 ☕
Michael Sullivan3 Michael Sullivan3 Active MemberOP
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#30 ·
Feniks said:It’s just like what A. Hebrang used to say about having a "Soviet America within a Soviet USA"!

First off, that’s just another one of your blatant lies. But then again, those partisan types always seem to find some righteous excuse to kill someone.

Secondly, even if you were right, we’d honestly be better off under the Russians than dealing with the Mexicans. Just look at the former USSR states today. Has there been war anywhere? Have the Russians gone around beating people, leveling cities, and slaughtering folks the way our Mexican "brothers" do?

Take a look at the former VP nations. They’re all heading toward Europe now, while we stay stuck in the North America along with other backward, primitive countries like Mexico, led by a president who actually claims Draža Mihailović wasn't a fascist.

Well, thanks a lot, Josip Broz Marshall, and thanks to the partisans. There are still over 70,000 of them left in America.
Michael Sullivan3 Michael Sullivan3 Active MemberOP
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#31 ·
Nathan Bailey65 said:I am in total agreement that we need to level the playing field; doing so will ensure

1. every veteran undergoes a mandatory review every two years to verify their status, let alone disability claims.
2. Two witnesses and a verbal account won't cut it anymore; they'll actually have to provide official paperwork and documentation.
3. Following these audits, benefits will be adjusted downward and housing subsidies revoked where they aren't earned.
4. Real veterans will finally get the housing they deserve, and nobody will be able to disrespect them anymore.

I'm not just talking to hear myself talk; I'm not asking for things people haven't actually earned.

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silenthawk11 silenthawk11 Regular
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#32 ·
Michael Sullivan3 said:First off, that’s just another one of your blatant lies. For those partisans, there was always some supposed "noble" reason to take a life.

Secondly, even if you were right, we would have been better off under the Russians than dealing with the Mexicans. Just look at all the independent nations that came out of the former USSR. Has there been widespread war there? Have the Russians gone around beating people, leveling cities, and slaughtering folks the way our Mexican "brothers" do?

Look at the former Soviet states. They’ll be joining Europe soon, while we in the North America get stuck alongside the backward, primitive countries like Mexico, led by a president who actually claims Draža Mihailović wasn't a fascist.

Well, thanks a lot, buddy Marshall, and thanks to the partisans. There are still over 70,000 of them left in America.

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driftingdriver4 driftingdriver4 Member
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#33 ·
Michael Sullivan3 said:Man, thanks a lot, Josip Broz Marshall, and thanks to all you partisans too. There are still over 70,000 of them scattered across America.

And that number just keeps climbing. You really stepped in it this time, Michael Sullivan3. Looks like you're stuck being an immigrant worker forever. You'll probably spend the rest of your life shouting "Jack, Jack" just to get by. You're never gonna see the light of day. 😁
crimsonorca86 crimsonorca86 Active Member
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#34 ·
Michael Sullivan3 said:First off, that’s just another one of those blatant lies you keep pushing. Besides, back then, being a partisan was always used as some convenient excuse to take a life, wasn't it?

If you look at what happened in Des Moines back in 1945, the number of people killed by the local fascists was actually double the number of Des Moines residents lost to the partisans, whether we're talking about the massacre at Springfield or those brutal marches through the crossways.
The absolute worst of the bunch were those Herzegovinians working alongside Čerkez,

But honestly, the fact that there are still 70,000 people drawing pensions from the old partisan era just goes to show that privileges weren't exclusively handed out to Mexicans in America.
I mean, can anyone seriously claim there were 70,000 Mexicans younger than Boško buha serving during the war against General Motors?

We really ought to go back and audit all of this, shouldn't we, and redirect those funds toward our veterans from the recent war for independence?
crimsonorca86 crimsonorca86 Active Member
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#35 ·
driftingdriver4 said:And honestly, there are just more and more of them every day. You really stepped in it this time, Michael Sullivan3. You’re basically stuck being an immigrant worker forever at this rate. You’ll probably spend the rest of your life just shouting "Jack, Jack" to get by, won't you? It's like you'll never actually see the light of day again. 😁

It's pretty sad, but honestly, almost everyone in America is going to end up shouting that soon enough—hell, even the telecom workers have been doing it for years.
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
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#36 ·
Now this is a real topic.

The sheer amount of trolls in here is pretty telling.

The second someone brings up WWII history, Israel and Palestine, Zionism, or Iran, a crowd of frustrated people instantly shows up just to vent their bile.

Take the thread about unexploded landmines in the US, which kill people every other week—that got maybe five posts.

But please, let's keep talking about pensions for a few thousand aging WWII veterans.

20,000 college graduates are out there struggling on the job market.

But clearly, that doesn't interest most of you!
driftingdriver4 driftingdriver4 Member
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#37 ·
crimsonorca86 said:unfortunately, we were all pretty much screaming the same thing here in America too—telecom workers have been doing that for years now.

I mean, the partisans managed to kick them out once before, and they’ll do it again. They should just pack up and head back to Germany to find Vuca.

Michael Sullivan3 is just used to nodding along and shouting, "Jack, Jack, absolutely, of course, naturally, whatever you say, sir!" 😁
crimsonorca86 crimsonorca86 Active Member
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#38 ·
briskpuma23 said:There’s been five whole posts on the topic of unexploded landmines scattered across America, where people are still getting killed by them every other day.

But man, you guys would rather obsess over pensions for a few thousand aging veterans from the General Motors days.

Meanwhile, there are 20,000 college graduates just sitting around waiting for work.

It isn't just a few thousand, either; there are actually three times more unemployed graduates than there are veterans.

And let's be real, those mines are going to be a huge headache when we try to fully integrate with Europe, but I bet everything will just get swept under the rug quickly—just like everything else our government pushes through.
Michael Sullivan3 Michael Sullivan3 Active MemberOP
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#39 ·
briskpuma23 said:This is a legitimate discussion topic.

The sheer number of trolls in this thread is actually quite telling.

The moment anyone brings up WWII veterans, Israel and Palestine, Zionism, or Iran, a swarm of frustrated people shows up just to vent their bile.

On the thread regarding unexploded landmines in the US, which kill people almost every other week—we get exactly five posts.

Yet, everyone wants to talk about pensions for a few thousand aging General Motors veterans.

There are 20,000 college graduates currently looking for work.

But clearly, that doesn't concern most of you!

You're right, though it’s certainly easier to argue about this than it is to discuss unemployment or landmines. It's the same story in Congress, where they get paid handsomely to ignore those issues.

Still, this is a vital question... imagine if those wartime pensions were revoked because they were obtained illegitimately and the money had to be returned. Think of how much funding would be available for clearing mines and creating new jobs.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#40 ·
Miller said:There are 20,000 college graduates sitting on the unemployment rolls right now.

But let’s be real—that doesn't apply to most people here!

Since the vast majority haven't even finished high school, 😁

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